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The NHS did not deserve to be so disgracefully glorified in this bonanza of left-wing propagand
Daily Mail ^ | 7/28/12 | Rick Dewsbury

Posted on 07/28/2012 11:12:05 AM PDT by Mozilla

The letters ‘NHS’ dazzled in bright red, like some triumphant advert. All around pranced self-indulgent nurses who had volunteered to take a few days off to be part of the ceremony.

And how long did this shameful propaganda last for? A whole 15 minutes at the top of proceedings before viewers dozed off to the procession of banana republics and far-flung destinations nobody has ever heard of or even cares for.

That such a politically divisive subject was included at all is utterly shocking. Not least because it glossed over the cracks in a system that is creaking at its seams - crying out for urgent reform.

And nobody seems to have considered the sheer hypocrisy that the majority of the athletes taking part in the Games will have access to the most expensive cutting-edge private treatment available in the world for even the slightest graze on their bodies.

The NHS segment came after a mildly moving rendition of Jerusalem (though this will move any patriot) and a play depicting the industrial revolution tearing up Blake’s ‘green and pleasant land’.

It was the absurdly unrealistic scene – and indeed one that would spring from the kind of nonsensical targets and equality quotas we see in the NHS - showing a mixed-race middle-class family in a detached new-build suburban home, which was most symptomatic of the politically correct agenda in modern Britain.

This was supposed to be a representation of modern life in England but it is likely to be a challenge for the organisers to find an educated white middle-aged mother and black father living together with a happy family in such a set-up.

This multicultural equality agenda was so staged it was painful to watch.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2012olympics; commieganda; england; failbritannia; gloriesofsocialism; liberalism; nationalhealthcare; socializedmedicine
Left wing tribute to the nationalized health care system of England during the Opening ceremony of the Olympics.
1 posted on 07/28/2012 11:12:13 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

It would have been more accurate if they had paraded a big figure representing Western Society pointing a .357 magnum at it’s own head and pulling the trigger. And then they could have made confetti explode out of the head to thunderous applause.


2 posted on 07/28/2012 11:21:10 AM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom is what's fair.)
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To: Mozilla

Was it only 15 minutes? It seemed like a lot longer.

Of course, having to listen to Matt Lauer and Bob Costas blabber on and on will do that.


3 posted on 07/28/2012 11:22:26 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Mozilla

What I found most enlightening about the whole thing was the “modern” tech set.

OK, I get it. We have to have the cute girl have a black father and white mother. But what was the reason behind having her new boyfriend be himself black? Wouldn’t it have made more sense for him to be a blond “English” type? That is, if we want to be representative and all that.

The way they did it edited out most of the actual indigenous English in favor of recent immigrants, as if they are the only “English” that matter.


4 posted on 07/28/2012 11:23:22 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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And what was with that freaky baby at the end, anyway?


5 posted on 07/28/2012 11:24:49 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Mozilla

I watched re-runs. On that front, Lucy stomped grapes with Ethel, and Mike Nelson rescued a bicycle. And My Mother the Car was still stupid.


6 posted on 07/28/2012 11:35:55 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: Mozilla

It’s a perfect example of why exposure to LSD for 50 years is bad for your brain.


7 posted on 07/28/2012 11:35:55 AM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: Mozilla

When I saw the “tribute” to the NHS, I thought they were trying to show health care during the time of Charles Dickens...


8 posted on 07/28/2012 11:40:27 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Mozilla

My 13-year-old son had some pals over last night to watch the opening ceremonies. After an hour or two of the gibberish, I turned off the boob tube, and gave the boys a brief lecture on the history of the Olympic Games (ancient and modern), and the greatness of Great Britain - starting with colonization of the New World and carrying on through the Battle of Britain. When I was done, the kids said: “That would have been a lot better than what they did.”


9 posted on 07/28/2012 11:43:54 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Mozilla

The opening hoopla is always about 2 hours. It takes about an hour before the US team marches in. I missed the NHS bit since I knew when to tune in. I did watch most of the parade of nations. Amazing how many flag bearers were either in Judo or Taekwando. I do love some of the costumes. Unfortunately, NBC didn’t get close ups or full body shots of everybody and I think we missed a few good ones.


10 posted on 07/28/2012 11:47:38 AM PDT by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: Sherman Logan

You’d have thought they would have shown a muslim
(read Asian) couple with six children for that matter.


11 posted on 07/28/2012 11:56:55 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Mozilla

C’mon, Danny ‘Joseph G.’ Boyle did a great job! (As far as reaching the propaganda quota.)


12 posted on 07/28/2012 12:03:29 PM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: karnage

I quite agree. England and Britain have a fascinating history. Arguably it’s the most important country in the modern world, since representative government and the Industrial Revolution were both birthed there.

And they managed to reduce that to this?

Reminds me of my visit to Epcot Center 25 years ago, which is supposed to be about the rich tapestry of our diversity. Made me want to run screaming from the park.


13 posted on 07/28/2012 12:09:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Mozilla

I thought it was kind of appropriate to lump it in with all the other fictional characters.


14 posted on 07/28/2012 12:26:28 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Mozilla
NHS eh..?....British NHS goes Medieval.....

1. Leaches for blood letting.

2. Maggots for wound treatment.

3. Garlic for flesh eating bacteria.

4. Islamic nurses not required to roll up sleeves to wash and can't use alcohol based scrubs.

5. Wards still based on the Victorian system

6. Do it yourself dental kits are a must have item.

6. Old folks denied cataract operations

7. Doctors prescribe water to prevent dehydration death

8. All enjoy the fast track to the morgue.

15 posted on 07/28/2012 12:33:38 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Olympics should be a celebration of greatness. It should be about what is best in Man. The Brits conquered and ran a huge part of the world, all from a tiny island with no natural resources. Dancing nurses? WGAS?


16 posted on 07/28/2012 12:40:07 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Mozilla

The author sounds like a grumpy sod. I am British, and my experience of the NHS, and those of most people I know, is nothing like the horror stories reported in the likes of the Daily Mail for the consumption of an increasingly American audience.

The NHS doubtless has its faults, and needs to be reformed in some areas, but it is a public institution here in Britain for which many people have reason to be thankful for. My grandmother, who has never been well off, would have died about 40 years ago if not for the NHS keeping her alive with treatment that she could not otherwise afford and which no insurance company would have willing to pay for this long without charging sky-high premiums.

IMHO, associating paying tribute to the NHS as symptomatic of being a muesli-munching leftie puts one in the same category of idiocy as claiming that paying tribute to the armed forces makes you a right-wing nutjob.

All I will say to any Americans on here who will doubtless scream at me for defending the NHS, is that you needn’t concern yourselves with it. Fight your own politicians for the 100% privatized healthcare system that you all want in your country, the British NHS is not your problem.


17 posted on 07/28/2012 12:53:21 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Mozilla
This is refreshing that there is still a newspaper in Britain willing to take on the propagandists.

While I kept flipping the dial away to more entertaining stuff, I was very impressed--in the most negative sense possible--by the Marxist imagery in the segment on the Industrial Revolution. The way it was handled served to deny images of brilliant innovation, as from Scotland's Watts, and the wise use of private capital, to what seemed like an endless stream of grimy "exploited workers."

Of course to anyone who actually understands the economic & social dynamics, the Industrial Revolution was not about exploiting the poor. It was in fact the dawn of opportunity for urban dwellers, who for two centuries had been living in some really abject slums.

I do not know the philosophy of the director of the farce--whether he is a doctrinaire Leftist, or simply a brainwashed toady, reflecting that British education has become as corrupt as public education in much of America; but visual Egalitarian propaganda has no place in something like the Olympics, which is supposed to be about affording an opportunity for the best athletes in the world, to excel--to achieve above & beyond the ordinary; to demonstrate that there is joy in excelling.

William Flax

18 posted on 07/28/2012 12:56:34 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: spokeshave
9...Organ harvesting....

(posted earlier here on FR)

Brain dead patients could be kept alive to harvest their organs for NHS July 28, 2012 9:42:26 AM PDT · by Free ThinkerNY

· 24 replies The Telegraph ^ | July 27, 2012 | Stephen Adams

Hospitals could be allowed to keep patients with massive brain injuries alive solely to harvest their organs, under controversial plans being floated by the NHS.

The 19 million people on the Organ Donation Register could also be given preference in the event of needing an organ, over those who are not.

These are two of the proposals mooted in a consultation being carried out by NHS Blood and Transplant this summer.

19 posted on 07/28/2012 1:06:01 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: karnage; Sherman Logan
The Olympics should be a celebration of greatness. It should be about what is best in Man. The Brits conquered and ran a huge part of the world, all from a tiny island with no natural resources.

Yes! That would be the rational approach. But modern Britain has been led down the "primrose path," with much the same idiocy that has virtually destroyed a large segment of modern American education. Here is my analysis of the false dogma, as reflected on our side of the Atlantic--of course with one Brit included: Myths & Myth Makers In American "Higher" Education. Note, especially the segment on Gordon Allport, the Harvard "Fellow Traveler," who considered favoring your own people as an unacceptable form of prejudice.

Britain needs a contemporary Dean Swift, who would pen some new voyages for Gulliver, to adequately describe what Britain has become. Can she yet be redeemed? I wish I knew. She obviously is bedeviled with her own Gordon Allports & other crackpots.

William Flax

20 posted on 07/28/2012 1:11:19 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: smokingfrog

Bob Costas didn’t start commenting until the parade of nations part. He quickly made a joke at the expense of North Korea.

During the whole show part it was the execrable Matt Lauer and Meredith Vieira.


21 posted on 07/28/2012 1:11:50 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Fight your own politicians for the 100% privatized healthcare system that you all want in your country, the British NHS is not your problem.

The NHS is our problem as our vaunted leftists point to the utopian NHS as the pinnacle of health care. Our system needs to be improved, but complete nationalization is simply not who we are.

I don't know if you saw any of the NBC feed of the opening ceremonies, but Matt Lauer immediately started opining on the pride the Brits have in their NHS while we pitiful Americans squabble over the socialist wonders that could be ours...it was pathetic and pure, blatant propaganda.

22 posted on 07/28/2012 1:24:12 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Mozilla

I am torn with this one. With the doctors and nurses dancing instead of providing patient care the morbidity rate at the NHS hospitals may have declined. They are notorious for actively killing patients over there.


23 posted on 07/28/2012 1:33:57 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Mozilla

The few voices of reason in the comments there got voted down....no reasoning with some people I guess.


24 posted on 07/28/2012 1:37:06 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Mozilla
The NHS segment was the worst, but the whole premise of the show was a pantload. Blake's "green and pleasant land" never existed. Before the industrial revolution most people lived in rural poverty where they had to work dawn to dusk to grind out a meager living.

Haven't any of these allegedly smart "intellectuals" ever asked themselves why millions of people fled farms to go to dirty and dangerous cities to work in the gritty early factories? Because it was better than what they left. Duh.

25 posted on 07/28/2012 1:39:30 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: karnage

My antennae went up at the very beginning when they showed pictures of a procession of great Brits, beginning with Shakespeare. The next one was Newton, great, but the rest of the list was Charles Darwin, Jane Austin, John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Are these really the people they revere? What about Sir Winston Churchill, Lady Thatcher? With all of the literary, scientific, and medical heavyweights they have had, not to mention great statesmen, they pick this mostly motley crew.

The pageantry was breath-taking, awesome during the agrarian and industrial revolution segments, but from there it deteriorated to texting and hooking up. Are these the great achievements of British endeavor? I understand that show business types never tire of patting themselves on the back, seeing themselves as the center of the universe, but are dead and dying Beatles really the apex of centuries of cultural evolution? It was just plain scarey, and we’ll be no better off if the country continues on its present course.


26 posted on 07/28/2012 1:42:19 PM PDT by Jerrbear (S'posed to be workin'.)
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To: smokingfrog

Lets sign up old rich commies Matt and Bad Hair Rug Bob for the NHS latest innovation called the Liverpool Pathway !
These old trolls are way passed their expiration dates .


27 posted on 07/28/2012 2:24:25 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Do us a favor and sign up for the Liverpool pathway !!
NHS is a disaster and England has the lowest cancer survivor rate in the first world .
England has Private hospitals for the elites like Mr Boyle.


28 posted on 07/28/2012 2:32:09 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: colorado tanker

Everyone knows that Utopia is an agrarian society. We should also return to trench warfare.


29 posted on 07/28/2012 2:39:47 PM PDT by EEGator
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“All I will say to any Americans on here who will doubtless scream at me for defending the NHS, is that you needn’t concern yourselves with it. Fight your own politicians for the 100% privatized healthcare system that you all want in your country, the British NHS is not your problem.”

You miss the point, which leads to your comparison to the US army being off target. They spent 15 minutes of the olympic opening ceremony lionizing the NHS.

Had the US olympic opening ceremony spent 15 minutes glorifying the US army, that would most likely have raised some eyebrows as well.


30 posted on 07/28/2012 2:52:09 PM PDT by globelamp
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To: globelamp

Did you read the post I was responding to? The one in quotes is not the right one.


31 posted on 07/28/2012 2:59:05 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Mozilla

It was entertainment and could be interpreted as the NHS fiddles and dances while healthcare burns in a children’s fairytale.


32 posted on 07/28/2012 3:08:58 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mozilla

I have to say as an Englishman myself that the NHS isn’t the horror story portrayed on here, but I do think it was an inappropriate subject for the opening ceremony.

I can only attribute it to Danny Boyle who has a rather romantic view of the working class and public sector.


33 posted on 07/28/2012 3:39:06 PM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: Mozilla
How did they open the Olympics before there were these elaborate song and dance routines? It might be worth while to study the 1932 Olympics, to get back to basics.
34 posted on 07/28/2012 3:44:35 PM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: ncalburt

Indeed it does. However, in America, if you can’t afford insurance, you are still dead, or if you are lucky, alive but bankrupt. Unless you have a media friendly sob-story that tugs on people’s heartstrings enough to persuade lots of people to donate for your treatment. God help you if you are not a cute kid or a war hero.

I have some experience with both systems, as I lived in the US with my family for a few years. We were fortunate enough to have very good insurance. When my sister became dangerously ill with pneumonia, she received top-rate treatment, but after a few days, we had to fight the insurance company to keep her in hospital because they reckoned that she should have been as right as rain after no more than a couple of days treatment. Fortunately, we got them to back off, but a couple of days later they had to bring the crash cart in because she was on the verge of going in to cardiac arrest.
One of our neighbours was plunged into poverty and hardship when he had a heart attack that meant he was off work and uninsurable for some time afterwards. Another neighbour (single mother with kids) was mentally ill and suicidal, but could not get treatment unless she had already been hospitalised after a suicide attempt. This was until my mother persuaded a doctor friend to get her on to a research program so that she could receive free treatment, which obviously isn’t an option for everyone.
These are some of the horror stories and potential horror stories that I have witnessed with America’s private healthcare system. I have not personally experienced anything like as appalling with the NHS, although I’m sure some people have had bad experiences.
It does irk me however, when Americans pick up on isolated horror stories connected with the NHS and then act as if medical malpractice is something uniquely evil to the NHS, and doesn’t exist at all under America’s private healthcare system, because it is rubbish. I know for a fact that people have died in the US because of inadequate treatment, often because they could not afford it. It is true that a lot of people do die on waiting lists in Britain because of the strain on resources, but I don’t see how this is any worse than dying in the US because you can’t afford the right treatment. At least if you are poor and on a waiting list, you have more hope than someone who can’t pony up the cash to get treated.

I had to laugh when that anti-NHS American politician waxed lyrical about how Prof Stephen Hawking would have been dead if he had been British, blissfully unaware that he was British, and credited the NHS with saving and and prolonging his life for over 40 years. I guess he must have heard the electronic computer he uses with its American accent and just assumed he was American...


35 posted on 07/28/2012 4:37:58 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Mozilla

Screw jumping sharks. NHS jumped the Olympic Flame.


36 posted on 07/28/2012 8:30:58 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: spokeshave

8. All enjoy the fast track to the morgue.

That is old terminology, it’s now refered to as

The Moribund Ward.


37 posted on 07/28/2012 8:38:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Ohioan
Great words, but it has been much worse in the past. There was a time when professional (ie-Capitalist) athletes were not even allowed to participate in the games. Yes, humanity has been much dumber and more totalitarian in its past.
38 posted on 07/28/2012 8:45:59 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

If you do not have insurance in England, the prices are actually higher then what they are back in the states. Ask any visiting foreigner that needed treatment. Heard a story from a business associate. Prices were extremely high. Might have been due to that pound exchange rate back then, however. Was about 1.5 to 1.


39 posted on 07/28/2012 8:59:27 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Don’t really have a problem with foreigners having to pay for treatment. They haven’t spent their lives paying into the system.


40 posted on 07/29/2012 2:57:52 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Jerrbear

1-—OK, Lennon and Macca are ‘just’ (great) pop music talents, but why shouldnt we celebrate Darwin?.

I am immensely proud, being British, that the great man is on our banknotes, taught to our pupils, and is revered by most British people as a genius, great man and a national hero/treasure.

And Jane Austin helped change the face of literature. Why the objection to a great writer?.

2—The whole point was to take the people watching from the era just before the IR, through the IR, past the world wars, to modern day UK, which is where the texting/film clip/pop montage came in.


41 posted on 07/29/2012 4:48:35 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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