Posted on 07/27/2012 1:06:39 PM PDT by Zakeet
Psychiatry is mostly a cult, pretending to be a science.
If they ever “succeed” at whatever they do, its only when their common sense somehow overcomes their psychiatric training.
The mind is complex...could she have put him on a med that contributed to his behavior? Yep...but could she have known? Nope...
Dizzy dame.
That does it! We’ve got to outlaw psychiatrists. Or, universities. Or, both.
Or any other SSRI
Very true and when prescription meds interact with non-prescription pharmaceuticals, you never know what the outcome will be.
I agree. You can string up the head of chik-fil-a, but it’s almost legally impossible to commit a violent mentally ill person until he has already committed the crime.
This came out of Langian psych, which said that only the mad were the truly sane ...because everybody else had been driven crazy by capitalism.
In the US, Psychiatrists are medical doctors. They take the same courses in Med School as any other doctor. I don't think they're pretending to be anything but physicians who are trying to help sick people.
I hate to see her tarred and feathered before anything is known about what he said to her.
I had made friends with a Russian immigrant who was basically treated like a slave for 50 years before coming to the US. After about a year of socializing with her, she called me at work while she was having some kind of psychotic break. I cajoled and manipulated to get her to see a doctor. If this prof’s name was in the phone book I would have taken my friend there. Just what are we to do when people are mentally ill? I was GLAD I found a physician who understood. But even he didn’t tell her his suspicion that she was schizophrenic while she was in his office (too dangerous). The doc sent a letter to her home explaining her symptoms, detailing medication that successfully treats the illness, and encouraging her to see one of the psychiatrists he listed. She assumed ‘they’ (the people trying to kill her) ‘got to him’ and wouldn’t seek treatment.
Schizophrenics are tough to treat. What if that had been a family member? This form of mental illness exists and has to be faced somehow by someone.
If this prof psch is guilty of something, fine, charge her and exert the full force of the law. But someone has to treat schizophrenics and I am not aware of anything this woman did wrong. Can we wait to find out?
Schizophrenics are the most likely (among mentally ill) to have a violent confrontation with police. Heaven help us - what do we do with people who need treatment for this illness? Some are in locked facilities but there are many who aren’t and apparently the drugs used to treat can be very successful, allowing people to still have lives etc. And then there are those who won’t take medication or whose condition deteriorates (e.g., and then I get a freakish phone call at work)after being stable and ‘safe’ for long periods of time.
So far, with the limited info, this woman stands accused of being willing to treat patients for an illness she specializes in. If she broke the law - GET HER. But if she’s just willing to treat the ill, I don’t see the reason for the vitriole. Med physicians are the first to admit that they don’t have the command of the psych meds that psych’s have.
What might have been the case here is that Dr Fenton actually received the package from Holmes, opened it, but did not act on its bizarre contents. Remember: it was only the next day when the reports that the package was lying in a corner of the mail room, unopened. I believed that then, but now??
Many of the comments on this post are grossly ahead of the facts. There is no information on: how long James Holmes “was seeing” the psychiatrist; whether he revealed anything threatening to her; what, if any, meds or treatment he was prescribed; whether he actually followed any advice, etc.
I rather doubt that the ultra-shy Holmes, in only a few weeks, opened up his whole house of horrors to a stranger. Those who seek psychiatric help generally have mental problems to begin with — the doctor doesn’t create them. Psychiatric problems are difficult to evaluate and treat, and some psychotropic meds take weeks or months to start working, often requiring adjustments to dosage, trying different ones, etc.
Let’s not play into the Liberals favorite game: holding SOMEONE ELSE responsible for the perpetrator’s actions.
You think you might be crazy? Get treatment. No gun for you.
I think our citizen militia can do just fine without those on anti psychotic meds who think they need to lay down and talk about their problems. We can give them guns AFTER the revolution starts.
No offense to those responsible gun owners who do take meds or talk to a shrink, but sheesh. Crazy and guns don't mix well.
The line between crazy and genius is a thin one.
RUSH TO JUDGMENT - A public pastime.
Kind of depends on whether Holmes is faking, or really crazy. IMHO, it is some of both.
There were stories that his 'girlfriend' had dumped him.
Maybe he had a 'thing' for his psychiatrist, and your 'wild guess' falls in line.
He was being thrown out of his apartment, he had no job, and his 'girlfriend' psychiatrist 'dumps' him (let's him know she's not interested) and then goes on vacation.
Yes, but as you point out, they are still pretending.
And I was thinking he was a loser who couldn’t get a girlfriend. Guess I was wrong.
So clever of you to pick up on my poorly written sentence. I caught it too late and there is no edit feature. You know perfectly well what I meant, but you're just so smart.
My prayer is that neither you nor any member of your family ever need the service of a psychiatrist.
Sadly, there are many who do.
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