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Michael Moore: Guns Today ‘Not Really’ What Founding Fathers Meant When They Said..
The Blaze ^ | 7/25/2012 | Erica Ritz

Posted on 07/25/2012 7:07:23 PM PDT by antidemoncrat

Michael Moore said on Piers Morgan Tuesday night that the founding Fathers would have omitted the right to bear arms from the Bill of Rights if they would have known how much guns would modernize in the coming centuries.

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To: antidemoncrat
Well, Michael, the founding fathers probably would have omitted the right to free speech if they'd known about Roger & Me, Fahrenheit 911, and Capitalism: A Love Story.
41 posted on 07/25/2012 7:49:32 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: antidemoncrat

He’s suffering from the virulant liberal strain of skullcrushing stupidity.


42 posted on 07/25/2012 7:53:43 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: antidemoncrat

The average IQ of the entire USA would jump 20 points if Michael Moore were to drop dead.


43 posted on 07/25/2012 7:57:20 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small, Miss Small)
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To: antidemoncrat

The glorious part of using the word “arms” in the Bill of Rights, is that they didn’t say “muskets” or “our 1700s rifles”, they said ...

ARMS

... which means “whatever the military is carrying.”


44 posted on 07/25/2012 7:57:35 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

THANK YOU!

When my LIB B-I-L pulled the Second Amendment referred to Muskets argument, I pulled the Printing Press “problem” on him. He was not happy.

He changed the subject. Actually, his Wife walked into the room and changed the subject.


45 posted on 07/25/2012 7:59:18 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: yarddog

You could be right that the founders meant arms to mean just about anything. Regardless, every American has an opinion on guns. The 2nd Amendment, on the other hand, is quite clear. Anyone who thinks “assault” weapons should be banned needs to amend the US Constitution. Opinion is meaningless. It comes down to following the clear intent or rewriting it, and the amendment process is also very clearly defined.

The same thing happens all the time with so-called Christians. Leftists sometimes claim to be Christian, but they invariably pick and choose what Bible verses they support. Unfortunately for them, the Bible doesn’t have an amendment process. It means what it says, and if you don’t agree, you aren’t a Christian.

The US Constitution is also pretty straightforward. Commerce between the states, for example, means literally commerce (commercial transactions) between states. It doesn’t mean the federal government has the right to regulate anything that might somehow be related to or affect commerce somewhere within the states.

The 2nd Amendment is the same. I don’t know why this militia crap is such a big deal, because it’s clear from the text that private citizens are supposed to be allowed to bear arms.

Unfortunately the left has warped the US Constitution so much that even they can’t figure out where to draw the lines anymore. It still comes down to this: if you don’t agree with something in the constitution, write an amendment and convince enough Americans to pass it. That, my FRiend, is how civil people change the law.


46 posted on 07/25/2012 8:02:13 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: antidemoncrat

The second amendment was intentionally put in a document that exists for no other purpose than to give rights to the people and to counter federal power.


47 posted on 07/25/2012 8:03:47 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: IrishPennant
Please forgive me Father but I would dance a jig on this fat bastage’s grave when his final “secret” double Whopper with Chesse and super sized fries pushes him in to a fatal blocked artery.

That'd be "sooey"cide.

48 posted on 07/25/2012 8:07:44 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: loboinok

>He’s suffering from the virulant liberal strain of skullcrushing stupidity.<

No, Michael McGramsci knows exactly what he’s saying. He just got caught.


49 posted on 07/25/2012 8:13:09 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: antidemoncrat

The 2nd amendment doesn’t say keep and bear “guns”, it says “arms”.

In those days, cannons were considered “arms”.

What’s the whale’s point again?


50 posted on 07/25/2012 8:15:03 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: antidemoncrat

Mikey, when your doctor told you to eat light, he didn’t mean for you to change to smaller babies.


51 posted on 07/25/2012 8:16:27 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: antidemoncrat

They might’ve omitted free speech if they knew it would mean him.


52 posted on 07/25/2012 8:17:26 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: antidemoncrat


53 posted on 07/25/2012 8:19:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: antidemoncrat

Oh I get it! we need a Fat Maxist Liar to tell us what the Founding Fathers would Have done!!!

No thanks Blubbo!...We already Have a skinny Commie Rat
in Washington telling us too much Marxist Crap already.

Go sell “crazy” somewhere else ( Canada) we are full up.


54 posted on 07/25/2012 8:30:32 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: antidemoncrat

Oh I get it! we need a Fat Maxist Liar to tell us what the Founding Fathers would Have done!!!

No thanks Blubbo!...We already Have a skinny Commie Rat
in Washington telling us too much Marxist Crap already.

Go sell “crazy” somewhere else ( Canada) we are full up.


55 posted on 07/25/2012 8:30:32 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: CitizenUSA
I don’t know why this militia crap is such a big deal, because it’s clear from the text that private citizens are supposed to be allowed to bear arms.

And really the part about the militia doesn't matter much since it's in the first clause which is just a preamble to the second clause. The second clause is the "shall" clause that contains the actual operative language. The first clause could have talked about blueberries or something and it wouldn't have changed legal effect one bit.

56 posted on 07/25/2012 8:35:07 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Moonman62

Actually, the US Constitution doesn’t give rights to the people. It simply spells out the rights they inherently own, rights given to them by God. No one, for example, has a moral right to take away your God-given right to self defense. That doesn’t mean they won’t try, but it’s evil to take away what God has given.


57 posted on 07/25/2012 8:38:04 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: antidemoncrat

Michael Moore telling us what the founders really meant. Thats rich.


58 posted on 07/25/2012 8:42:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: antidemoncrat

Of course they didn’t even talk about changing the constitution when the Gatlin Gun(1861) or the Maxim Gun(1884)(Fully Automatic) Came out.


59 posted on 07/25/2012 10:01:29 PM PDT by Revel
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To: tet68

Rapdid fire munchies! No three round bursts for mikey... full on auto baby... eat mikey eat!

LLS


60 posted on 07/26/2012 3:59:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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