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Posted on 07/25/2012 7:07:23 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
Michael Moore said on Piers Morgan Tuesday night that the founding Fathers would have omitted the right to bear arms from the Bill of Rights if they would have known how much guns would modernize in the coming centuries.
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I was hoping no one would wake up fatboy. He had been quiet for quite some time.
And what the Founders really meant by “freedom of speech” was political speech, not every filthy thing that media perverts can think of to pollute our culture. So let’s clean up that misunderstanding of the First Amendment before we reconsider the Second.
For the life of me I really don’t understand why anyone cares what Michael Moore thinks.
Please forgive me Father but I would dance a jig on this fat bastage’s grave when his final “secret” double Whopper with Chesse and super sized fries pushes him in to a fatal blocked artery.
Trenche Coxe, founding father.
Dear Fat Mikey,
An armed citizenry is exactly what the Founding Fathers had in mind. The Socialist movement in this day and age (dangerously approaching tyranny) is exactly why the Founding Fathers wanted an armed citizenry.
Actually, even a broken clock is right twice a day. The founders meant we should have weapons sufficient to overthrow a tyranny. So the limits should be more like crew-served weapons up through artillery, Tanks and AFVs, and for those who can afford it, attack helicopters, fighters, and bombers.
Watch a liberal’s head explode when you suggest THAT. . . (evil grin)
But there actually isn't a great deal of doubt as to how they really did feel, and if Pizza Boy wanted to learn that instead of piously wondering in front of the cameras, all he'd have to do is use his library card.
I suspect the founding fathers had a vision of Michael Moore et al when they declared that everyone should be armed.
Oh, I see. So, the Founding Fathers were short sighted idiots and it will take Moore and his crowd to shape the next 200+ years of this country with all their communist enlightenment.
The left doesn’t want a “militia” to form, as a militia fights government tyranny.
Moore, obviously, was there at the creation of the Bill Of Rights and is the only one who knows what the amendment actually means.
Hell, we don’t need a Constitution or a Supreme Court with Obama and Michael Moore around.
This delirious fat body needs to move to Cuba.
What they meant was that citizens should have the same kind of arms as any opposing force against them. The simple guns back then were the equivalent of modern guns today. Also it wasn’t just limited to guns, “arms” means swords, knives, clubs, maces, etc. Whatever was considered conventional weapons.
Mikey must have went to publik skool.
For all intents and purposes the Constitution favors having the very biggest and most dangerous weapons in private hands!
Besides saying someone had a right to keep swords, etc., it also meant you, as a noble, had a right to defend yourself in court.
Jews generally didn't have that right ~ their history can tell you all you need to know about what that meant@!
Under this logic they may also may have not let the army and navy be armed, given the nuclear bombs we’ve built and used that they couldn’t have forseen, because that could make it impossible for people to topple an oppressive government.
What “gift” do you claim, that we should even consider your assessment regarding what the founding fathers “really meant”?
Are you an American History major?
Perhaps you studied Constitutional Law?
The observable facts are that you HATE America, and the Constitution.
So why would anyone pay attention to you?
Thanks for the quote!
“Michael Moore said on Piers Morgan Tuesday night”
The double dumb-ass episode!
I fully support Michael’s right to amend the US Constitution if he can convince enough Americans to agree the 2nd Amendment is outdated. Maybe he’s even right. Maybe the founders didn’t envision powerful, modern weapons. It’s really as simple as that. The US Constitution isn’t written in stone. It’s flexible. All one has to do is convince enough people to vote to change it.
(That, of course, would take too much work for the likes of Michael and most liberals. That’s why they opt for judicial fiat.)
One of the things that I love about brain dead liberals is that they are always complaining about how outdated the US Constitution is, but none of these cowards have the audacity to try to get it amended.
Liberals know they would never get any of their stuff passed, so the US Constitution is not really outdated after all.
Hey! When did he shave? Heck, how does he find enough time in a day to shave all that real estate?
Alright, I’ll play. Since the founding fathers could never have envisioned the Internet, does that mean that the press should be limited to hand powered, moveable type printing presses?
Which is exactly what idiots like MM want.
I think the reason they used the word “Arms” is evidence that they did foresee advances in weapons. Also means they did not restrict the right to only guns. It also includes knives, swords, spears or any other personal arms.
That deserves a re-post BTTT
The only limitation on citizens to bear arms is the limitation of their pocket book.
On the other hand, ATF seems to be engaging in an Obamaguns program for illegals.
Michael who? Is he an important figure in the mess? Or is he just another fat liberal slob who was made rich and famous by the lowlife of this planet?
If I had to make a list of the most vile, and personally repugnant creatures on earth, there would be a special place for Moore.
Mikey, the founding fathers didn’t realize that there
would be citizens who would have a use for
Automatic Machine Spoons either.
Guns of today are exactly what the Founders meant the citizens of today to have. I don’t expect Michael to understand the reason for the 2nd Amendment, but suffice it to say that it wasn’t written to protect hunter’s rights. ...Think government oppression, people who will march fat Michaels off to a butter churn.
If the Founders knew about Moore, they’d have set up a direct one-way route to North Korea for him.
So the stupid fat a$$ is channeling The Founding Fathers?
He’s suffering from the virulant liberal strain of skullcrushing stupidity.
The average IQ of the entire USA would jump 20 points if Michael Moore were to drop dead.
The glorious part of using the word “arms” in the Bill of Rights, is that they didn’t say “muskets” or “our 1700s rifles”, they said ...
... which means “whatever the military is carrying.”
When my LIB B-I-L pulled the Second Amendment referred to Muskets argument, I pulled the Printing Press “problem” on him. He was not happy.
He changed the subject. Actually, his Wife walked into the room and changed the subject.
You could be right that the founders meant arms to mean just about anything. Regardless, every American has an opinion on guns. The 2nd Amendment, on the other hand, is quite clear. Anyone who thinks “assault” weapons should be banned needs to amend the US Constitution. Opinion is meaningless. It comes down to following the clear intent or rewriting it, and the amendment process is also very clearly defined.
The same thing happens all the time with so-called Christians. Leftists sometimes claim to be Christian, but they invariably pick and choose what Bible verses they support. Unfortunately for them, the Bible doesn’t have an amendment process. It means what it says, and if you don’t agree, you aren’t a Christian.
The US Constitution is also pretty straightforward. Commerce between the states, for example, means literally commerce (commercial transactions) between states. It doesn’t mean the federal government has the right to regulate anything that might somehow be related to or affect commerce somewhere within the states.
The 2nd Amendment is the same. I don’t know why this militia crap is such a big deal, because it’s clear from the text that private citizens are supposed to be allowed to bear arms.
Unfortunately the left has warped the US Constitution so much that even they can’t figure out where to draw the lines anymore. It still comes down to this: if you don’t agree with something in the constitution, write an amendment and convince enough Americans to pass it. That, my FRiend, is how civil people change the law.
The second amendment was intentionally put in a document that exists for no other purpose than to give rights to the people and to counter federal power.
That'd be "sooey"cide.
>Hes suffering from the virulant liberal strain of skullcrushing stupidity.<
No, Michael McGramsci knows exactly what he’s saying. He just got caught.
The 2nd amendment doesn’t say keep and bear “guns”, it says “arms”.
In those days, cannons were considered “arms”.
What’s the whale’s point again?