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U.S. Chamber Poll: GOPís Lingle Ahead in Hawaii Senate Race
WSJ ^ | August 18, 2012 | Patrick O'Conner

Posted on 07/24/2012 8:18:50 PM PDT by what's up

Republicans will face far better odds of retaking the Senate, if they can make a state like Hawaii competitive. A new round of polling from the business-friendly U.S Chamber of Commerce suggests President Barack Obama’s home state might actually be in play.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hawaii; lingle; senate
Apparently, Hirono (D) will now debate Lingle (R) because she is falling behind; she had been trying to avoid it.

This is a re-match for the ladies; The GOP's Lingle beat Hirono by 5% several years ago in the HI Governor's race.

Lingle is out-raising Hirono by $1 million so far.

It would be a pretty bad blow for Obama if HI went Repub in the Senate. I don't know why Hirono has been faltering lately but I suspect it could be because of Obama's recent gay marriage stance; HI voted down gay marriage in a referendum.

1 posted on 07/24/2012 8:18:59 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

More indication that the polls showing The Disaster as competitive are whacky. He can’t even get a RAT elected in Hawaii, his “home” state? I’m seeing total wipeout and I’m a pessimist.


2 posted on 07/24/2012 8:25:31 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: what's up

Linda Lingle’s Website

http://www.lingle2012.com/


3 posted on 07/24/2012 8:28:40 PM PDT by tsowellfan (It hurts to walk)
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To: what's up
This is a re-match for the ladies; The GOP's Lingle beat Hirono by 5% several years ago in the HI Governor's race.

Interesting...if they liked her better than Hirono then, they probably think the same now.

4 posted on 07/24/2012 8:33:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: what's up
Hirono is among the leftover from Japanese American politicians that dominated the state for half century. While in the past various 'minority' ethnics in Hawaii tended to combine forces and voted Democrats, today they're more diverse political-wise. The influence of Japanese American as a block decreases considerably. The current Democrat Governor/Lt.Gov are both whites.

While Lingle would be seen as RINO by most Freepers, she's seen as a different kind of Republican by many people in the state. They see her as independent person, while Hirono is seen as old-boys' club candidate that would just follow instruction. That Hirono has been in Washington for a while and Lingle has stayed in the state after her tenure as a governor ended only help her case.

5 posted on 07/24/2012 8:33:55 PM PDT by paudio (OTP: Why do people want to rehire a mechanic who clearly only made their car worse than before?)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Hirono had been up in the polls until recently.

As I recall the debates turned the tide in the Governor's race a few years back. I hope the same happens this time around.

Lingle is an excellent debater...very clear speaker and unflappable.

6 posted on 07/24/2012 8:37:00 PM PDT by what's up
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To: arrogantsob
He can’t even get a RAT elected in Hawaii, his “home” state?

Time will tell.

I really feel that Obama's gay marriage declaration could do him in more than anything else.

He needed to come out for gay marriage to get the San Francisco money, but I think it will take a toll in HI and even in the black community to a degree.

7 posted on 07/24/2012 8:41:17 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

OK my friends: It’s time to grab the bull by the horns. Lingle is not ‘one of us.’ Doesn’t matter. Akaka has been in that seat for 30 years. A GOP pickup would be BIG! Same in N.M. It’s time to get behind these ladies(+ Scott Brown) and take those DEM seats for the next 6 years. When they take office THEN go after them. If they end up like the Maine twins then we will have to work harder to straighten them out or give the eat back to the Dems in 6 years. Consider the alternative....


8 posted on 07/24/2012 8:44:14 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Republican Wildcat; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; Reagan Man

I have to admit, even though she's a "popular, two-term elected Governor" and the strongest candidate the GOP could have picked, I didn't see this one coming and didn't think Lingle would be terribly competitive for this longtime RAT Senate seat. This poll might actually be legit and the RINO has a shot at taking this seat.

I'd have to get drunk out of my mind to vote for her though... Lingle was an awful Governor and I dread the thought of having another liberal "R" in the Senate, even if it gives us a majority. I'm thinking the pacific tropical version of Susan Collins.

9 posted on 07/24/2012 8:47:30 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: what's up

Doesn’t Hirono have to get by Ed Case in the primary first?
My understanding of the Dems here is that if Case wins, the Hirono faction (labor and Inoue) would not be enthusiastic voters and might just sit it out. How the Case backers will vote, should Hirono win is a big question.


10 posted on 07/24/2012 8:49:08 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: what's up

If I were advising Romney, I would tell him to put his attention in states that are largely white, as those voters will be most open to reversing their last vote, and voting against the President. There are a LOT of those states in the country, and they can get Romney over the top, without having to win all the normally-battleground states.


11 posted on 07/24/2012 9:14:04 PM PDT by BobL
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To: what's up

The homo marriage perversity won’t cost him anything in the Black community. Barely a vote.


12 posted on 07/24/2012 9:33:17 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: BillyBoy
Lingle was an awful Governor and I dread the thought of having another liberal "R" in the Senate, even if it gives us a majority. I'm thinking the pacific tropical version of Susan Collins.

So, for whom are you going to vote?

Anyone who would prefer a Democrat senator to a Republican, even the most worthless RINO, obviously hasn't a clue as to how that organization works.

The goal this November must be ousting Obama and electing a House and Senate who will unravel his legislative achievements. In the voting booth, one must be prepared to set aside one's principles if so doing furthers the objective! Principles in the voting booth are for children!

13 posted on 07/24/2012 10:14:42 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Islander2
Case has raised only about $600,000 to Hirono's $3 million and Lingle's $4 million. Looks like enthusiasm is not there for Case even though he has Inouye's endorsement.
14 posted on 07/24/2012 10:20:31 PM PDT by what's up
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To: BillyBoy
The one thing Lingle did which was great was going against the green lobby to get a HI inter-island ferry running again.

Lingle had it running for awhile as she pushed the advantage for business locals who could travel from island to island promoting their family businesses.

But then the Whale People came in something fierce and defeated her and the ferry.

Lingle is a friend of Palin and introduced Sarah at the GOP convention in '08. I can't say anything like that about the Maine twins.

15 posted on 07/24/2012 10:25:28 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

Lingle is a RINO for sure and proudly proclaims to be one. She says she will do “what’s best for the people of Hawaii” (what does that say about the Republican Platform), fashions herself after Olympia Snowe, proudly proclaims to be non-partisan and will cross the isle when she thinks she needs to do so. I dare anyone to find her proclaim, anywhere in her campaign literature, that she is a Republican.
As governor, Hawaii state government grew. Her support for the race based Akaka Bill - not supported by the majority of people in Hawaii - is a typical example of her “supporting the people of Hawaii”.......as she sees it.


16 posted on 07/24/2012 11:00:36 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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I dare anyone to find her proclaim, anywhere in her campaign literature, that she is a Republican.

"Biography. Linda Lingle served as Governor of the State of Hawaii from 2002-2010. She was the first woman, first person of Jewish ancestry, and the first Republican in 40 years to lead the Aloha State."

Unless, of course, you want to split hair by arguing that the biography section on her website is not part of 'campaign literature'?

17 posted on 07/25/2012 12:08:33 AM PDT by paudio (OTP: Why do people want to rehire a mechanic who clearly only made their car worse than before?)
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To: arrogantsob; what's up

What matters to us is Black TURNOUT. Obama will get 95% of those that vote but they are less motivated to vote this time and the queer stuff doesn’t help him with that.


18 posted on 07/25/2012 12:15:30 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: what's up; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; randita; firebrand; ...

I doubt gays will matter much in this race.

Lingle is personally popular.

Another Republican has gone off the rails. Alaska Rep. Don Young has endorsed Hirono for some reason. Like idiot Coburn with Manchin he’s talking about the rat’s bipartisanship. Newflash you sack of garbage, Hirono is a communist. And your sorry butt should be kicked out of the party. Maybe your girlfriend will give her your committee assignments.

This is worse than Coburn cause Lingle appears to have a much better shot at winning than Raese in WV.

He must be banging her, that’s all I got.


19 posted on 07/25/2012 12:34:57 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: BillyBoy; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; Skulllspitter; Clemenza

The HI GOP was left in even worse shape after her tenure than it was with Willard in MA (in other words, it’s dead). As I’ve said many times, I favor granting HI full independence. We don’t need a state that is thousands of miles from the mainland sending an all-Communist delegation being the difference between a GOP and Democrat Senate majority.


20 posted on 07/25/2012 12:40:41 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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I’m 100% for Lingle now just to spite Young.

He’s doing Hirono (or REALLY REALLY wants to) and I want his girlfriend back in Hawaii (though she could get a lobbying gig and stay in DC) to punish him.


21 posted on 07/25/2012 12:45:00 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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Young has 2 primary opponents.

John Cox and Terre Gales

http://www.johnrcoxforcongress.com/

http://www.galesforcongress.com/


22 posted on 07/25/2012 12:47:48 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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Young needs to go. For a long time now. The primary is next month.


23 posted on 07/25/2012 1:08:28 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: what's up
Lingles people called me today and asked if I was voting for her. I told them first, I have to tell you something. Linda's commercials on the TV all tell us how she can reach across the aisle and work with the democrats. I said, I'm a conservative and those are RINO words to me, I don't want to reach across , I want to kick their asses. Then I said that I also realize that Linda is running in a heavy heavy Democrat State and if she does not play that non partisan card she would never get elected here. Then I said , yes I am voting for Linda for Senator just as I did when she became Governor of Hawaii years back.
24 posted on 07/25/2012 1:36:57 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: paudio

see my post #24. I live on Maui


25 posted on 07/25/2012 1:40:56 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Democrat-leaning states are more likely to elect Republican governors and vice versa.


26 posted on 07/25/2012 4:26:39 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Impy

Two primary opponents equals bad news for trying to unseat Young. The anti-Young vote might get split and allow Young to skate with 40% or less.


27 posted on 07/25/2012 5:02:47 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Neither looks very strong so the sack of crap will probably win easily.


28 posted on 07/25/2012 5:12:15 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; randita

Yes, Lingle will be a tropical Susan Collins (albeit more pro-military). But Hirono will be a tropical Ted Kennedy, and serve in the Senate just as long. Six years of Lingle with a second bite at the apple in 2018 (although unless the HI GOP has developed a bench by then it likely will be Lingle vs. Dem hack again) sounds a lot better than 42 years of Hirono.

Maybe we can elect moderate-to-conservative Republican Charles Djou to the U.S. House this November (he was elected to Congress with well under 50% in a special election in early 2010 but lost in November), and eventually he can run for governor or U.S. senator. We probably will never be able to elect a Jesse Helms or Paul Laxalt to the Senate from HI, but some day we could elect someone right of center. We just don’t have the bench yet.


29 posted on 07/25/2012 5:21:18 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I think it’s a fairly safe bet Hirono won’t serve 42 years in the Senate. She’d be 107.


30 posted on 07/25/2012 5:35:07 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Impy

Nice distinction, I hope you are correct.


31 posted on 07/25/2012 9:53:13 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Heh. I wasn’t aware she was that old. But if we ever get a 107-year old U.S. senator, it will be a female, Japanese-American Democrat from Hawaii.


32 posted on 07/25/2012 12:10:35 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: paudio

I won’t “split hair” but she does. She ran as a Republican for governor. She’s running as a “bipartisan” candidate for Senate. Her “claim” to be the first Republican governor is just a resume enhancer. She’s never had any coattails as governor and made the Hawaii Republican Party her campaign staff. The Hawaii republican Party is the Lingle campaign and they can’t even have an honest internal vote for National Committee Man.


33 posted on 07/25/2012 2:45:43 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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This is nothing less than amazing. I’d like to see some other polls, though it’s clear that Lingle is the only Republican who has any chance at all of winning this race.


34 posted on 07/25/2012 5:21:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Of course, look at Patsy Mink. She only made it to 74. Hirono is just 9 years away.


35 posted on 07/26/2012 12:36:07 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Dapper 26
they can’t even have an honest internal vote for National Committee Man.

Ha! I know it happens here and there, but some day I would like to see for myself a state that has an honest internal vote for Committeman. Usually it's preordained.

36 posted on 07/26/2012 2:36:03 AM PDT by Skulllspitter
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I’m confident that Democrats would make sure that a Senator Hirono avoided the chickenpox. : |


37 posted on 07/26/2012 4:31:43 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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