Skip to comments.Veep Beat: Pawlenty Gets Second Look, Jindal Stock Rising
Posted on 07/16/2012 7:13:04 AM PDT by Perdogg
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White bread, meet milk toast......I am sooooo excited.....
Let Newt destroy Biden in a debate - please!
Pick a Purple borderline state and a moderate “conservative” (rino) and or pro-Amnesty. That will be our man or women.
It’s going to be Jindal. I’d be willing to be your house on it.
White bread, meet milk toast......I am sooooo excited.....
Dang,no salt or pepper either.
So is Thune per another thread.
Looks like the Condi Rice trial balloon crashed. [Thank goodness]
He is pro-life.
He is also a serious Christian.
Raised a Hindu, he choose to become a christian as a young adult. He's not just a christian because that's what his parents were. That will have a strong appeal to conservative christians--a group Romney needs to at least mollify.
I like Pawlenty, but he isn’t going to generate any votes for Romney.
I like Rubio too.
RE: Its going to be Jindal. Id be willing to be your house on it.
OK, but how does he stand the test of the Natural Born clause? Everytime either Jindal or Marco Rubio’s names are brought up, inevitably the question of meeting the constitutional requirement arises.
Like Jindal a lot. GOP will have to figure out how to deal with the goofy Phlegmocrat questions on how a person of Indian descent would deal with a militant Pakistani government should the situation arise.
Heart says West. Gut says Jindal. Brain says Portman. But what do I know - it’s fun to guess anyway. ABO baby!
LOL! Are you trying to start something? :)
The NBC clause is a moot point. If the powers that be have no problem with a Kenyan in the White Hut, then certainly there is no obstacle with Jindal. He was born in the USA. That nowadays is all that matters.
she waged her finger in obamas face so well—
if they chose her she could be the mouthpiece for all
that is bad in obamaland
Confidence by conservatives (in Romney) already teeter-totters on the “anybody but Obama” precipice, but if he doesn’t pick a strong conservative for VP, I’m afraid he’s wasted a lot of doners’ money as patriots will just remove the clothespins from their noses and stay home on election.
As Romney seems determined to morph into John McCain, coupled with the vote “engineering” of the Obama crowd, we’ll have a front row seat to the demise of America.
Romney is not a fighter. He doesn’t have the savvy to keep an ace up his sleeve.
IMHO, he can overcome the Bain Capital thing, and the tax return reluctance, but the wrong choice for VP will do him in.
Col. West for VP would be a master stroke, but I won’t hold my breath, because West is not a RINO.
It’s not that Pawlenty is a bad guy, or has too much baggage or anythinZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
NBC doesn’t matter, because it will never be heard in court.
1) The supreme court just did a pretzel twist to uphold ObamaCare. Do you think they will “unelect” a sitting VP? Never.
2) 98% of Americans believe natural born citizen means someone born a citizen. Neither the press or anyone else with a megaphone will do anything to change that opinion.
3) The courts refuse to even consider arguments about Obama’s NBC status.
Bottom line: the issue is moot. There is a new standard (thanks to Obama’s election): Born a citizen = natural born citizen.
We can scream and shout about it being wrong, but not a single court in the land—not one—would take up the case of Jindal not being a NBC; it would be thrown out before even getting a hearing.
The only chance to change this would be to get congress to pass a resolution defining NBC (something they could do, but won’t do anytime soon).
You’ve got to live in the world as it is. Jindal’s (or Rubino’s) NBC status would never be a problem, because no court would ever hear the case, much less find against them.
The issue is moot.
It won’t be West. 100% certain.
Conservatives would love West, BUT he would be lightning rod for the press and liberals in the same way Palin was. The press would build up a series of fabricated/semi-true stories about West that would (as they did with Palin) become a story on their own and distract from the core issues of the campaign (jobs, jobs, jobs).
Romney will NOT pick someone that overshadows him or becomes a press story of his own. It won’t be West.
Please choose a real conservative.
The overriding theme of the Romney campaign is “competent” as in “Romney is competent to fix the economy, and Obama isn’t.”
It’s likely Romney will pick a governor who has done a good job at the state level to reinforce the “competent” theme. This sets up a contrast between the GOP ticket and the Obama/Biden ticket which can be portrayed as incompetent.
Pawlenty fits that meme. He may be boring, but nobody doubts he has done a good job as governor.
The courts refuse to even consider arguments about Obamas NBC status.
That should have been a forewarner on the Health Care Ruling.
i.e. If congress lets it happen, we will not intervene.....
I've been predicting Thune to get a serious look.
I still hold out hope for Susana Martinez.
It’s not moot because it’s a campaign issue, whether right or wrong.
Looks like the Condi Rice trial balloon crashed. [Thank goodness]I agree.
Anybody But Condi
She's the loser's loser.
My dryer makes a sound like that when there are sneakers in it.
So do I. I tweeted Romney to pick her.
And think of the graphics. Mitt, Paw.
A campaign issue for who?
Out of 300 million Americans, it would be a campaign issue for about 2,327—max.
And, if you don’t agree with that number, then how many. Not “a lot,” but a specific number.
Pawlenty? Wow, that’s a ticket just popping with excitement.
There is no question at all concerning Herman Cain and this imagined virtue of “natural born”. That meant something back in 1787, maybe, but not so much today.
Surprised, that he has not been heard in the mix.
All that supposed involvement back in Chicago was totally manufactured. Think David Axelrod, and look at the fingerprints connected with that attempted smear.
"Competent," considering the prior qualifications and record of the current occupant, would be anyone who could run a small business successfully enough to retain emplyees. (Sarc.)
Mittens should pick Rick Perry ... a Perry/Plugs debate would be a hoot ... :^)
Portman is acceptable on many issues, but he has glaring weaknesses on immigration. He’s WAYYYYY too soft on that subject. To wit (per www.ontheissues.org):
Subject: Illegals earn citizenship
Policy position: Supports (!!!!!!)
Rated 0% by FAIR, indicating a voting record loosening immigration.
Supports Granting amnesty to illegal immigrants(!!!!!!)
Supports Full implementation of current border security laws.
YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers.
YES on extending Immigrant Residency rules.
NO on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment(!!!!!)
IMO, Martinez hits on all cylinders... competence, conservatism and the demographics, as well as geographic reach.
Rom-Paw sounds like speech impediment of Ron Paul.
Personally, I would have preferred Palin/Ryan but no one asked me.
You don’t think the media would beat this to death until everyone knows about it? Right now most people don’t even know there’s a controversy about who is a natural-born citizen, even the relatively well informed. It will scare off the voters who don’t understand it without the same rule being applied to Obama.
Even if (and I think it’s a big if) a court should decide this case, the argument will be made that it is the role of the congress to define NBC and not the courts.
There are only two probably outcomes of a court challenge:
1) an activist court will expand the definition of NBC to mean anyone born a citizen.
2) a court will dismiss the case on the basis that it is the responsibility of congress to define NBC, and absent such a definition the court can’t make a decision.
No court is going to declare a born-citizen not to be a NBC in the absence of a clarifying definition by congress. It just ins’t going to happen—ever.
Ronald Reagan himself as a candidate cannot make up for the fact that we are going to have a non Conservative, weak, indecisive, non prinicipled disaster at the top of the ticket.
I’ve been told he has a record of picking good conservative judges. I don’t know the specifics, but if true, it would be a good influence on Romney in that important area.
The media will not beat this to death because:
1) it would raise the issue of Obama’s NBC status.
2) many of the Democrats up and comers are 1st generation Americans.
3) the media has been pushing the idea that born-citizen = NBC for so long that it has been drilled into the head of the public.
#1 is the main reason though. The media is not going to push anything that could possibly backfire onto Obama. This would.
“Id be willing to be(t) your house on it.
lolololol How about betting yours?
Jindal is ineligible per Article II of the Constitution....why do we have to keep pointing this out?
Natural Born Citizen = Born in a country to parents who are it’s citizens. Bobby’s parents were here on a student visa from India.....not eligible, just like Rubio.....Pay attention this time folks.
Note that under the 14th Amendment both Jindal and Rubio are born citizens with no need to naturalize, though they were included when their oparents naturalized, so they are double covered as citizens. In any case not Natural Born Citizens.
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