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Homeowner Jailed for Hosting Bible Study
Foxnews.com ^ | 7/10/12 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 07/10/2012 12:12:26 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper

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To: DoughtyOne
"""Homeowner states new structure is only a game room"""

Wondering where is the lie in this. Game Room/fellowship hall, same/same. For the most part it is probably used by his family as a game room throughout the week, as it should, being that he owns it.

I see no problem in his wording it as a game room.

101 posted on 07/12/2012 12:20:17 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: JTHomes

Hear, Hear. 4.6 acres should be enough for 2 churches, parking and all. Apparently this guy’s neighbor(s) have friends in City Hall. the constitution is on his side and it’s apparent he won’t back down. I am glad, and his congregants should be outraged.


102 posted on 07/12/2012 5:35:43 AM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
. My point is that Christians shouldn't necessarily rush to get behind this “pastor” who:

1) Teaches damnable heresy.

Watch out here!

You are getting MIGHTY close to a certain wellknown fellow who is running for President of the USofA!

103 posted on 07/12/2012 7:09:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jedidah

“What we do know is that this guy lives in a state that is friendly to Christians and that he’s been charged with violating 67 city code violations.”

I’m not sure how friendly they are in his Phoenix neighborhood, and if you get enough neighbors pissed at you I’m sure they could find 67 violations in your yard too.

And remember, they were after him even before he built his addition.


104 posted on 07/12/2012 7:12:35 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: Above My Pay Grade
1) Teaches damnable heresy.

That is a job for the church to address; not the government.
That said, allowing the government to impose [its will] upon a church is getting mighty close to state approved religion; which has (and is) abused.

2) Is an “ex”(?) gangbanger” who fired multiple shots into an occupied home, barely missing an innocent woman in 1992.

And St Paul was a self-admitted murderer. To say that God cannot use sinful man is to say that God cannot use any man [not Jesus].

3) Was arrested for impersonating a police officer, AFTER his alleged jailhouse “conversion”.

Meh - IMO, The police should be arrested for impersonating gangsters and the mafia.

4) Has flouted local zoning laws and lied about the purpose of the “game room”. (See Proverbs 12:22)

You assume that his family cannot use it as a game room during the rest of the week when the congregants aren't present.

5) Has deceptively characterized this as a battle over having a few people over to his house for Bible studies, when, in fact, this is about him building and running a house of worship, in his back yard, that does not comply with building codes, creating a nuisance to his neighbors and a potential danger to his congregants.

Codes is, in my experience, little more than a government sanctioned mafia racket.
True story: I was working landscaping and we were checking to see what sprinkler heads were in need of replacement, this was in the middle of March, and the Codes guy saw it and had a little chat about how summertime watering was restricted... March.

Another one: Codes came up to the house and demanded clean-up because of junk visible from the street... this in the middle of a commercially zoned section of the city, this residence being there prior the zoning, and having a literal junkyard kitty-corner from the property.

“Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.” - Romans 13:1-2

Ah, but are all authorities governing authorities? More specifically, are authorities acting contrary to a Constitution instituting/governing them legitimate? In short, should those enforcing "law" which is not itself lawful, even if it may be "presumed constitutional", or "established law" actually a governing authority here in the USA?

105 posted on 07/13/2012 9:16:01 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

this is against the first amendment in 2 ways: freedom of religion and freedom of assembly.


106 posted on 07/23/2012 6:52:45 PM PDT by Coleus
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