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Get rid of the right to bear arms (NYT article on revising the Constitution)
The New York Times ^ | 7/8/2012 | Melynda Price

Posted on 07/09/2012 5:30:24 AM PDT by darrellmaurina

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To: sickoflibs
The surest measure of a man is the company he keeps.

Liberals spend a lot of time hobnobbing with reprobates, criminals and perverts. They even seek out their company. It tells me all that I need to know about them.

21 posted on 07/09/2012 5:46:11 AM PDT by jboot (Galt by default.)
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To: darrellmaurina

By this idiots thinking, Mexico should be a Utopia.


22 posted on 07/09/2012 5:46:45 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Mouton
4 posted on Mon Jul 09 2012 07:32:53 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Mouton: “How about we ban the NY Times instead.”

As tempting as that might be, I don't think Alexander Hamilton (founder of the New York Post) or colonial publisher Benjamin Franklin would like that idea very much. The First Amendment goes back in concept to the 1735 trial of John Peter Zenger, a New York City newspaper editor who was arrested and imprisoned on libel charges after criticizing a corrupt New York colonial governor. The refusal of the jury to convict Zenger despite clearly having violated existing law established the principle in America that truth is an absolute defense against libel and that news media have the inherent right (and responsibility) to criticize the government.

As I like to say to my liberal colleagues, it's pretty hard to advocate restrictions on the rights conveyed by the Second Amendment without logically opening doors to restrictions on the First Amendment.

That means the New York Times has every right under the First Amendment to publish this nonsense, and we on Free Republic have every right under the same First Amendment to dissect the nonsense and prove it to be idiotic.

23 posted on 07/09/2012 5:46:50 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
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24 posted on 07/09/2012 5:48:40 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: DonkeyBonker

Ms. Price:

Perhaps you should look harder at the kind of upbringing your family members were indulged with. I also have a number of ‘cousins’ as you refer to them. I am not sure of the exact usage of your verbage, but will accept ‘cousins’.

I was raised in a household where there were a number of guns. Rifles, shotguns, other combinations of same & handguns.

While we certainly did not have an ‘Ozzie & Harriet’ upbringing there NEVER was one single thought that using a gun or grabbing a gun as a threat was acceptable. As we grew older, guns were used by every child raised in that family.

A GUN is an INANIMATE object. You may have to have someone explain that definition to you.

A gun doesn’t do any harm all by itself. It can actually be owned for many years by someone & never have any kind of problem with it’s usage!!! Surprise!

Nobody did a single thing about banning Oldsmobiles when Teddy Kennedy tried to test his ability to drive while intoxicated & killed his passenger....

You are on the wrong path towards a solution to gun violence.

Your solution starts with proper discipline in the home & in the schools, IMO. Since your ‘cousin’ is now not a threat to others of us who can behave in society, we all can sleep a little better, also.


25 posted on 07/09/2012 5:49:10 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Bigh4u2
“but also the peaceful way the document was created”

Hah hah!! You are right.

She kind of forgot the American Revolution thingy. That Washington guy and those Redcoat nasties probably were not in her high school text book.

Bet she was taught all about the brave early 20th century labor leaders however.

Math is hard....

26 posted on 07/09/2012 5:49:47 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27")
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To: darrellmaurina

‘...but also the peaceful way the document was created, would penetrate the Americans’ minds and change they engaged.’

The author seems unacquainted w/ the Revolutionary War.

‘The Constitution would be the only weapon needed unless there was an external enemy.’

There are no internal enemies? You need look not further than the WH and the dem party...and much of the republican party as well.

I did read further but this opinion seems not well thought out. OTOH Im sure any number of people will believe it. Sad but true.


27 posted on 07/09/2012 5:52:11 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Travis McGee

If Kentucky is dumb enough to hire this person & pay her to ‘teach law’, then Kentucky gets permanently crossed off my list of possible places to move to in the future.

Danial Boone would be rolling in his grave——


28 posted on 07/09/2012 5:53:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: darrellmaurina
If you remove black gun violence from the crime statistics, the US is right in the middle of Europe in terms of violence.

I say that the Second Amendment should be revoked for blacks as a form of reparations for all the the violence they have perpetrated upon society.

29 posted on 07/09/2012 5:53:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: darrellmaurina

The NYT needs to understand the Founding Fathers never anticipated a Godless society, swarming with gangs of lawless thugs.

Most certainly, they never envisioned fascists demanding the law abiding citizen disarming themselves, to become compliant victims of these thugs and Godless government.


30 posted on 07/09/2012 5:55:47 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: jboot
RE :”Liberals spend a lot of time hobnobbing with reprobates, criminals and perverts. They even seek out their company. It tells me all that I need to know about them.

And their votes too.

Here in Maryland the first thing Dem gov O Malley did was give convicted felons including traitors and child molesters the right to vote after they leave jail. Naturally after that he got re-elected after raising a number of taxes on us.

31 posted on 07/09/2012 6:00:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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To: dontreadthis; All
8 posted on Mon Jul 09 2012 07:38:43 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by dontreadthis: “under the radar got caught”

Yep...

Finding things like this is what the traditional media are supposed to be doing, and because they aren't doing their jobs, it becomes the job of “new media” like Free Republic.

The New York Times is running a series of articles on proposed revisions to the United States Constitution. Slate magazine is doing the same, here:

http://hive.slate.com/hive/how-can-we-fix-constitution

We in the conservative movement need to take these people at their word. I think they really are trying to advocate amendments to the Constitution, and while their most radical proposals likely will never get serious attention in the Congress or the state legislatures, we need to pay close attention to these discussions to see what the enemies of our historic Republic want to do.

One benefit of having this stuff out in the open is we can use it to force moderate Democrats and conservative Democrats to come clean on where they stand. All over the South, local and state-level Democrats have been able to distance themselves from their national party, but nonsense like this is pretty hard to defend to pro-gun constituencies. Those of us on Free Republic sometimes like to say there are no conservative Democrats left, but the fact is that lots of rural Southern Democrats at least **CLAIM** to be conservative, and at the very least we can use things like this to force them to ask hard questions. Ideally, we may be able to use pressure from within the Democratic Party to kill these ideas before they gain traction.

Given the choice, it's always better to stop a threat before it gets started than fight it once it's gotten ready for a fight.

32 posted on 07/09/2012 6:01:19 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: jdsteel
We got into this awful situation by dismissing the left at "loopy" and their ideas as BS. Back in the ninties when I had my conservative epiphany, I was shut down cold by everyone from friends to family to clergy to even a Republican Congressman, because the changes I was afraid of "couldn't happen in America."

BUT almost everything I was concerned about then has come to pass in two short decades. The people who ignored me are now either bitter and broken or have buried their heads in the sand for good.

So I agree, we need to educate. And resist to the utmost. But mostly resist to the utmost. The Left wants a "conversation"? Feh. The time for talking is long past. Hit them hard, and hit them until they shut up.

33 posted on 07/09/2012 6:01:59 AM PDT by jboot (Galt by default.)
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To: darrellmaurina

Some of her ancestors were slaves. She should remember that her ancestors became slaves, and stayed slaves, because they DIDN’T have guns.


34 posted on 07/09/2012 6:03:14 AM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: Travis McGee

I see the winner was being educated in the government school system based on the spelling...


35 posted on 07/09/2012 6:07:38 AM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: sickoflibs
Yep, Democarats love reprobates, perverts, criminals and (how could I forget?) illegal aliens. Maryland is a lost cause for now.

We'll get another chance in this state, but only after the Dems run out of Other Peoples Money and the Dignity Card herd grazes their field down to the roots. From the looks of things both may happen soon.

36 posted on 07/09/2012 6:08:17 AM PDT by jboot (Galt by default.)
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To: drpix

Blue helmet will make good targets.


37 posted on 07/09/2012 6:09:41 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If you remove black gun violence from the crime statistics, the US is right in the middle of Europe in terms of violence.

Elephant, meet the living room.

38 posted on 07/09/2012 6:10:48 AM PDT by jboot (Galt by default.)
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To: darrellmaurina

Liberals are clueless. They don’t understand that the 2nd Amendment was written to provide a way for citizens to protect themselves from the lawless, from invading armies, AND from an overreaching, tyrannical government. Do they really think that criminals care about gun laws? My Mom’s family is from L.A. (Lower Alabama), cotton and peanut farmers. Guns are so ingrained in the culture,and are everywhere, yet gun violence is miniscule. That was the first place I ever fired a rifle as a young boy. The difference is, these are God fearing, hard working, honest law-abiding people. Like the Bible says, murder begins in the heart. A million laws won’t change bad character.


39 posted on 07/09/2012 6:12:12 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: Kozak

I see the winner was being educated in the government school system based on the spelling...

So were the judges, they missed the spelling errors too.


40 posted on 07/09/2012 6:14:22 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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