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Couple handcuffed, jailed for dancing on subway platform: lawsuit (New York City)
NY Post ^ | july 8, 2012 | KATHIANNE BONIELLO

Posted on 07/08/2012 4:40:57 AM PDT by lowbridge

First smoking, then soda — now there’s no dancing in New York City.

Caroline Stern, 55, and her boyfriend George Hess, 54, claim they were handcuffed for having happy feet on the platform of the Columbus Circle subway station — and spent 23 hours in custody as a result.

“I’m a dentist, and I’m 55, and I got arrested for dancing,” Stern told The Post. “It was absolutely ridiculous that this happened.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
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1 posted on 07/08/2012 4:41:08 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Dancing While White


2 posted on 07/08/2012 4:45:46 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: lowbridge
In Bloonberg’s New York, are you required to possess a permit to dance? It would be more revenue. sarc/
3 posted on 07/08/2012 4:47:20 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: lowbridge
Ten bucks says they both voted for Doomberg...and Osama! And ten more bucks says they'll continue so to do.
4 posted on 07/08/2012 4:48:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: SampleMan
Dancing While White

+1.

5 posted on 07/08/2012 4:49:32 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A Dalmation was spotted wagging its tail.)
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To: lowbridge
The other day I saw a parks & rec "cop" hassling some bewildered tourist for riding his bicycle on a footpath in Central Park. I heard, Lemme see some ID!

Giuliani was tough but fair. These people are self-worshipping power junkies.

6 posted on 07/08/2012 4:53:29 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A Dalmation was spotted wagging its tail.)
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To: lowbridge

Well at least they wont have to be subjected to stop and frisk. Law abiding citizens having some fun, but thats not allowed!!!


7 posted on 07/08/2012 4:57:04 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: SampleMan

Exactly!

We have DUI, DWI, and now the ecer popular DWW. We also have the DAWP, DumbA$$ White Politician.


8 posted on 07/08/2012 4:58:13 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: mardi59

More like drunk with power. Every pissant that has a ant hill to piss from.


9 posted on 07/08/2012 5:06:06 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Yorlik803

More like drunk with power. Every pissant that has a ant hill to piss from.

*********************

They are drunk with power, and sadly WTP voted them in. It’s WAY past time to put more thought into how we vote, who we vote for, and how long we allow them to drink at the public trough.


10 posted on 07/08/2012 5:10:57 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: lowbridge

Welcome to 0bama’s America .

The history of freedom ,,, because freedom has become history .


11 posted on 07/08/2012 5:15:17 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: lowbridge

Anti-Dentite.


12 posted on 07/08/2012 5:16:01 AM PDT by Labyrinthos (RE)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I refuse to bicycle in Central Park. The bike lanes are demolition derbies and you are forced onto footpaths where cops come after you. Who needs it?


13 posted on 07/08/2012 5:19:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Those guys in their colorful nylon body-suits are the worst. Bicycle nazis. I sent a gaggle of them into a hissy fit by crossing in front of them. Nearly caused a pile-up. I had the light!


14 posted on 07/08/2012 5:25:05 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A Dalmation was spotted wagging its tail.)
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To: miss marmelstein

All i know is i’ve posted 100 times that NYC cops are totally out of control.


15 posted on 07/08/2012 5:25:05 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: lowbridge
The cops asked for ID, but when Stern could only produce a credit card, the officers ordered the couple to go with them

It used to be, when living in Manhattan, if I wasn't doing something where I expected to get carded, I didn't even carry my DL with me as I used public transportation. So now you aren't allowed to be out and about without an ID? What about all those people who say you can't expect someone to have an ID to vote???
16 posted on 07/08/2012 5:25:26 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: SampleMan
Probly sumthin like that.
17 posted on 07/08/2012 5:27:57 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: lowbridge
cuff 'em!


18 posted on 07/08/2012 5:29:31 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: wiggen
All i know is i’ve posted 100 times that NYC cops are totally out of control.

I think thats ridiculous. Considering what they're up against every day, I think they're (collectively) models of restraint. But I do agree there are some that imbibe in a bit too much testosterone and steroids.

if you want to experience "out of control", go to Florida. 42 bullets in a guy who was reaching for his ID - and that was way before it was commonplace. Arresting a woman for sunbathing in her own backyard and taking her to the station naked. Tazing women and children. Arresting people for trying to bring water to Terri Schiavo. Thats not even the beginning.

19 posted on 07/08/2012 5:32:00 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A Dalmation was spotted wagging its tail.)
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To: Lionheartusa1
In Obama’s America you will quickly learn there is nothing to dance about.
20 posted on 07/08/2012 5:34:25 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: the invisib1e hand
Giuliani was tough but fair. These people are self-worshipping power junkies.

Yes that is very true and these left wing tyrants deserve every ounce of condemnation they get. But the story is more than that.

New York City is a place where there concentrated population density. Put rats in a confined place and they begin to turn on each other resulting in aggressive behavior. If you think of New York City as a giant Skinner box and Mayor Bloomberg the wizard operating the levers which deliver the rewards to the rats in the box, it is inevitable that he will try as he has to manipulate and control behavior. He will tell the rats what kind of pellets they can eat, and he will tell them when and where they can dance. He will cease being a Mayor and start being a wizard.

But the analogy to the Skinner box breaks down because Mayor Bloomberg does not have absolute control, he must insinuate his police force in among the the rats to quell the aggression and impose the kind of control his ambition desires. When you have a police force bigger than the Coast Guard and when you have 8 million people interacting with that large a police force, bizarre situations are going to erupt. Inevitably, the aggressive behavior of the rats, even the harmless but bizarre behavior of the rats is going to generate within that police force an us against them mentality.

Now Mayor Bloomberg is forced to choose between his established order and common sense, he must choose whether to support the culture of his bureaucratic institutions without which a city of 8 million people will degenerate into an extremely uncivil society. With 8 million people there is an institutional bias towards the institution's culture and against commonsense. If you have millions of those 8 million people who are not culturally assimilated to begin with, whose religion is different, whose language is different, whose idea of morality is different, whose idea of the rule of law is different, and whose respect for the rule of law is vastly different, we will see aggravated every tension among the rats themselves and by the rats against the institution.

By the way, if you want to generate a nice argument on these threads take up my position that overpopulation, or density of population, is itself a threat to a civil society, to a society protected by the Bill of Rights, a society that we conservatives treasure and whose agonizing death by 1000 cuts we are witnessing.


21 posted on 07/08/2012 5:35:17 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: lowbridge

Bloomberg is a Baptist?


22 posted on 07/08/2012 5:38:20 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Giuliani was tough but fair. These people are self-worshipping power junkies.

Surprise at the leftist abuse of authoritarian powers created under an erstwhile conservative is a recurring theme, it would seem. DHS, anyone?

23 posted on 07/08/2012 5:41:18 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: lowbridge

Does one need an ID to travel on NYC subway now?


24 posted on 07/08/2012 5:46:02 AM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: lowbridge
When Hess began trying to film the encounter, things got ugly, Stern said.

And there it is, the gem of the encounter - citizens get sick and tired of being bullied, pull out the camera so others can see how insane it is, and they get tackled by the cops. Interestingly there's nothing said as to what happened to the footage - wonder if it was confiscated for evidence, or accidentally deleted like such things happen so often. Hope the couple when they filed their lawsuit sent out a subpoena for the footage from the platform cameras.

And 23 hours in custody?? Wasn't there, but don't particularly care what was apparently said by the couple. If the cops wanted to be jerks and tell the couple to stop dancing on an empty platform, that was the entire limit of the encounter. Anything beyond that is pure abuse of power.

25 posted on 07/08/2012 5:51:24 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: HotKat

Do something spontaneous that may indicate you’re happy???? How dare you. We must all be subjugated and miserable together, Comrade.


26 posted on 07/08/2012 5:53:07 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: lowbridge
The cops asked for ID, but when Stern could only produce a credit card, the officers ordered the couple to go with them — even though the credit card had the dentist’s picture and signature. When Hess began trying to film the encounter, things got ugly, Stern said.

“We brought out the camera, and that’s when they called backup,” she said. “That’s when eight ninja cops came from out of nowhere.”

Hess was allegedly tackled to the platform floor, and cuffs were slapped on both of them. The initial charge, according to Stern, was disorderly conduct for “impeding the flow of traffic.”

Want to really piss off a cop....whole them accountable by recording their behavior...

I guess the cops thought intimation would work...

27 posted on 07/08/2012 5:56:42 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: Truth29
In Bloonberg’s New York, are you required to possess a permit to dance? It would be more revenue. sarc/

Yes. It's called a Cabaret License.

28 posted on 07/08/2012 5:59:27 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: visualops

if you’re going to be doing something as important as going to vote I wold imagine you’d expect to be carded and plan accordingly. I know I would.


29 posted on 07/08/2012 6:06:48 AM PDT by Jeff Vader
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To: Jeff Vader
"if you’re going to be doing something as important as going to vote I wold imagine you’d expect to be carded and plan accordingly. I know I would."

According to Democrats, that should be almost the least likely place to require an ID.

30 posted on 07/08/2012 6:44:08 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: nathanbedford

Lived in Fun City for 57 years, from LaGuardia to Bloomberg. IMO, from my experiences there, the ingrained “us against them” mentality of the NYPD toward the citizenry dates to the Lindsay (R) administration.


31 posted on 07/08/2012 6:44:23 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms for the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: lowbridge
Photobucket

It was this man, he started it.

32 posted on 07/08/2012 6:46:42 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Anybody venturing into NYC deserves everything that happens to them.

If the crooks don't get you, the cops and the City Apparatchiks certainly will.

33 posted on 07/08/2012 6:46:59 AM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Ten bucks says they both voted for Doomberg...and Osama! And ten more bucks says they'll continue so to do.

You know it.

34 posted on 07/08/2012 6:47:06 AM PDT by bgill
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To: the invisib1e hand

Yeah, like most Manhattan bicylists (especially messengers), they are some of the most dangerous people in the city.


35 posted on 07/08/2012 6:48:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: the invisib1e hand

Yeah, like most Manhattan bicylists (especially messengers), they are some of the most dangerous people in the city.


36 posted on 07/08/2012 6:48:24 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: C210N; mickie; flaglady47; seenenuf; Chigirl 26; seekthetruth; Bushbacker1; surfer; ...
DANCIN' BY THE TRAIN

Doo-dle-doo-doo
Doo-dle-doo-dle-doo-doo
Doo-dle-doo-dle-doo-doo
Doo-dle-doo-dle-doo-doo.....

We're dancin' by the train
Just dancin' by the train
What a glorious feeling
We're happy again
Along come the cops
With stormy face mugs
They busted our chops
Like commonplace thugs
Well, let the storm troopers chase
Everyone from the place
Next chance that we get
We'll do it again
We'll sing a happy refrain
Where's muh top hat and cane?
Let's go singin'
And dancin'
By the train

Leni

37 posted on 07/08/2012 6:49:56 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Rome2000
Anybody venturing into NYC deserves everything that happens to them

Really?

38 posted on 07/08/2012 6:51:06 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: IMR 4350

Dancing is Forbidden. - Taliban


39 posted on 07/08/2012 6:52:45 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: nathanbedford

Yes, but we rats get to see the greatest opera companies in the world, the finest theatre in the world, ballet, film, museum and art galleries and the most amazing restaurants and shops. It can be heaven as well as hell.


40 posted on 07/08/2012 6:52:52 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: lowbridge
1) The man's a dentist.

2) Even NYC police have teeth and need to see dentists.

"Let's just check if you're numb yet, there officer". Whoops, guess not.....Sorry let's try again.

41 posted on 07/08/2012 6:55:15 AM PDT by par4
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To: the invisib1e hand

My problems with NYC cops are: too fat, too short, too many girl cops, too much into Dunkin’ Donuts and generally not there when you need them!!!


42 posted on 07/08/2012 6:56:46 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

I’ve always felt sorry for New Yorkers. They miss out so much on life.


43 posted on 07/08/2012 6:56:53 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

Well, since you’re too scared to put up where you live, I can’t really take a shot at your neighborhood.


44 posted on 07/08/2012 7:02:47 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: lowbridge

After reading 38 replies on this thread, I’m going to venture the opposite opinion: These people should not have been dancing on the subway platform.

The subways were built when the population of the city was lower and the number of people using the subways was smaller. The platforms are narrow, and at the worst of times dangerously crowded.

There is probably an ordinance against dancing on the platform—I’m not sure. If there weren’t, there would be dancers everywhere there is a musician playing music that you can dance to.

My guess is that these two people were typical liberal “we hate the cops” people. Taking out the camera was the biggest tipoff. I have had it up to here with these people (hand held over eyebrows).

There is nothing wrong with the NYPD outside of aberrant behavior of individual cops. They do a great job and are truly amazing. I can’t imagine living here if they didn’t do the job that they do. If we had cops who sided with the liberals, I think I would move somewhere else.


45 posted on 07/08/2012 7:08:44 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: miss marmelstein

It is sympathy, not an insult.


46 posted on 07/08/2012 7:19:26 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: miss marmelstein; Roccus
Many of those presentations, many but not all, can be more advantageously enjoyed, like the Super Bowl when watched on TV, better through the Internet.

Legitimate theater and ballet strike me as presentations organized by homosexuals for the amusement of other homosexuals and women. Great restaurants are another matter, but then I live in Europe where one expects first-class food in every restaurant.

Munich offers world-class restaurants, theater, ballet, opera and other examples of "high culture" without the brutal negativity of New York City-but it's population density is about 1/6 that of New York City.

I lived within commuting distance of New York City for decades and I would offer that it was not John Lindsay who perverted the city but it was under his administration that the city was lost to the forces of the left, the unions and racial identity politics. I would not necessarily confuse coincidence with causation.


47 posted on 07/08/2012 7:21:13 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: lowbridge

That’s nothing... story on FOX says a fella was arrested for resisting arrest. How does that work?

PO—Sir, you’re under arrest
Cit— What for?! I’ve done nothing!
PO— writes up charges—he resisted arrest.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/07/07/vikings-rb-peterson-arrested-in-houston/


48 posted on 07/08/2012 7:24:31 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: MinuteGal

Now that rocks.


49 posted on 07/08/2012 7:29:23 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A Dalmation was spotted wagging its tail.)
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To: nathanbedford

Yeah, all those arty types are homos. Tell that to Peter Martins and Barysnikov!

High culture in Germany is quite disgusting, by the way. Ballet and opera and theatre feature on-stage urination, sex acts (real and faked) and a general loathing of life. I once heard the actress Martha Keller condemn the arts in Europe - all the while praising the more straight forward arts world of Manhattan. And while there is plenty of bad art in NYC, you can still walk into the Met and see some wonderful choreography and music.


50 posted on 07/08/2012 7:31:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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