Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Easy fix eludes power outage problems in US
The Capital ^ | By Chris Khan and Eric Tucker

Posted on 07/05/2012 4:45:55 PM PDT by robowombat

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-48 last
To: SnuffaBolshevik

15 million is probably a low estimate. Underground might be fine and dandy in your subdivision, but transmission lines are another thing. No way are you going through mountains and valleys underground


41 posted on 07/05/2012 9:01:38 PM PDT by Figment
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Figment

Maybe I missed it but I don’t think they are talking about putting high tension underground. Around here, the power companies take pretty good care of the tower lines as far as tree incursion and maintenance of way goes.

The overhead residential lines are the ones neglected when it comes to trees. I still say $15 mil a mile is BS for putting medium voltage (~13kv.) underground.


42 posted on 07/05/2012 9:36:30 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: SampleMan

The tree line is cut about fifty yards either side of the power lines. It would take a damned tall tree to take one out by falling, but they do become debris in a windstorm


43 posted on 07/05/2012 10:42:57 PM PDT by Figment
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: BobL

And then there is the matter of burying the lines to the each house, which is a personal expense, and also expensive.

Burying pre-existing lines is expensive, but doing it from the very beginning isn’t too bad.

All of the new developments here have the lines buried.


44 posted on 07/06/2012 4:57:05 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: SampleMan

Yea, when you get to those voltages underground isn’t much worse than above ground. But like you say, the above-ground infrastructure is there in most of the country - so it will be very costly to move them underground.


45 posted on 07/06/2012 5:09:07 AM PDT by BobL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: SampleMan

It’s the old question:

Do you believe in higher taxes to help the homeless? Answer: Sure, we need to do what we can to pull them out of their situation.

Would you be willing to pay higher taxes to help the homeless? NO WAY!!! The government steals enough of my money already.

Sure, people want reliable power, as long as they don’t have to pay for it. What should be done is a serious cost-benefit study of options. Maybe doubling the size of the truck fleet and clearing trees more often and with wider berths would help a lot, and not cost too much. And then that fleet could also respond to outages much more effectively. That is one option.


46 posted on 07/06/2012 5:21:06 AM PDT by BobL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: BobL

Yes, I concur.

I appears here locally (no rock to deal with) that the cost/benefit is hit when the lines can be dropped in before building begins in a new neiborhood.

The other cost is that electrical is not the only line hanging on those poles. Cable TV and telephone lines must also be put underground and they cannot all be put together inside one conduit, due to interference and differing responsibilities.

As nice as underground lines are, I’m not willing to pay the 20k required to do it (just on my property, nor would I be willing to vote to force someone else to do it, even if I was willing to spend the money.


47 posted on 07/06/2012 5:29:49 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: SnuffaBolshevik

Just looking at what’s running above ground in my neighborhood, it would be a freaking nightmare to do it


48 posted on 07/06/2012 9:13:44 AM PDT by Figment
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-48 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson