Posted on 07/05/2012 3:17:34 PM PDT by firedawg76
OK fellow Freepers, I'm in need of some assistance. I am constantly getting into debates with liberals I work with who, of course, just love ObamaTaxCare. Like good liberals, when I present them facts demonstrating what a terrible law this is, they simply ignore them.
One problem I have is that when they ask what the Republicans plan is, I'm having some difficulty. I know what the tenets of the Republicans plan would look like, such as tort reform, selling insurance across State lines, high risk pools, etc. Has there been formally been a plan introduced by the GOP or Mittens yet? I have to admit that if they have put one out, I haven't been paying attention as closely as I should be. If they haven't, I definitely think they need to put out something. I don't think just saying we will dump ObamaTaxCare is enough. I believe we need to have something to tell the American Public what will be put in it's place as a viable alternative. Thanks for any assistance!
Yeah, pretty much...plus "Association Health Plans" which gives anyone access to a large group.
Has there been formally been a plan introduced by the GOP...
Only until they are blue in the face. You mean you haven't seen it mentioned in the press? Hmmm.....
While he isn’t my preferred senate candidate, this ad with Pete Hoekstra holding the democrat plan vs the republican plan is pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03THar5bUTA&feature=youtu.be
I’ve been searching and searching, but have not been able to come up with a link.
Has the House voted on a alternative? I know on the budget side, we’ve got the Ryan Plan, but I’m talking specifically about Healthcare.
‘something’ DOES NOT ‘HAVE’ to be done
their ‘something’ has created the $200 aspirin - they are not smart enough to ‘fix’ it
free healthcare (or affordable) is not a government function
if your health is so unimportant to you that you are unwilling to pay for it, die in the street - don't force me to pay for YOUR health when you don't care enough to pay for it
gather all your crap about you - you ipads and titanium cable plan - while on your death bed and die
Hey, thanks for that. I like it.
Over 13,000 pages of regulation
150+ new taxes....Some of them having nothing to do with health care.
Why? Just leave it to the individual states to come up with a plan that will work for them. If the Fed would like to make it easier, they could allow competition across state lines, and tort reform where loser pays to decrease the frivolous lawsuits. That should be plenty, don't you think?
Romney Care seems to be OK for Massachusetts, but another state may like something different. Let the PEOPLE choose what they want. Who could argue with that?
Do you think states want homo "marriage" forced on them? No, they don't.
Do they want sanctuary city status forced on them? No, they don't.
Why force a massive liberal federal program on them for health care if they don't want it? It doesn't make sense.
In 1964 the total bill for my delivery and a 3 day stay in the hospital was $85 which was about a week and a half’s pay for my dad at the time.
Today I believe childbirth runs between around $5,000 and $10,000.
While I agree with you, I think the GOP and Mittens will have to have a more coherent message than just “repeal and replace ObamaTaxCare”. What is the “replace” part?
Promising to repeal is great, but an incomplete message in my opinion.
And lets not forget, we got new taxes to pay for health care already. A 2300% increase in the tax on loose tobacco in 2009 was intended to pay for children’s health care.
it costs so much because democrap tort lawyers like john edwards sued using LIES and fake science - so now every doctor and hospital does a c/sect if the mother farts
Dumping Obamacare falls under the do no harm rule. Tis better to have no plan than to have Obamacare. Much like it is better to have an empty chair in the Oval Office than having Obama occupy it.The simple fact of the matter is that we cannot afford Obamacare as a nation. Contrary to Dem representations that it pays for itself, it does not and it will drive the deficit and debt up. Additionally I have seen projections that this pipedream of covering people with preexisting conditions effortlessly is just that - a pipedream. I have seen estimates that premiums on those currently insured who will be subsidizing folks with preexisting conditions by merging them in the healthy pool will rise 35% to 100% over time to compensate private carriers required to cover those with pre exiting conditions. All of this is hidden from view.But this argument will fall on deaf ears of your Dem friends as they have no concept of the realistic impact of deficits and debt on the future. Their mindsets are focused exclusively on the benefits side of the ledger without regard to cost. That is why they are Democrats.
Sis is in Michigan...Who are you supporting?
Amen. My sentiments exactly. While I don't think somebody can win elective office while advancing such notions, that reality speaks to the decline in the American people. What you said is the only position that is ultimately compatible with individual liberty.
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