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Air Force chaplains adjust to gays serving openly
Standard-Examiner ^ | July 5, 2012 | David Crary (AP)

Posted on 07/05/2012 12:21:44 PM PDT by madprof98

Col. Timothy Wagoner has been an Air Force chaplain for 20 years, serving a denomination — the Southern Baptists — that rejects same-sex relationships.

Yet here he was at the chapel he oversees, watching supportively as an airman and his male partner celebrated a civil union ceremony.

“I wouldn’t miss it,” Wagoner said at the McGuire Air Force Base chapel, days later. “I don’t feel I’m compromising my beliefs … I’m supporting the community.”

Wagoner didn’t officiate at the ceremony — he couldn’t go quite that far. But his very presence at the gathering was a marker of how things have changed for active-duty clergy in the nine months since the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy was repealed and gays could serve openly.

Prior to repeal, various conservative groups and individuals — including many conservative retired chaplains — warned that repeal would trigger an exodus of chaplains whose faiths consider homosexual activity to be sinful. In fact, there’s been no significant exodus — perhaps two or three departures of active-duty chaplains linked to the repeal. Moreover, chaplains or their civilian coordinators from a range of conservative faiths told The Associated Press they knew of virtually no serious problems thus far involving infringement of chaplains’ religious freedom or rights of conscience.

“To say the dust has settled would be premature,” said Air Force Col. Gary Linsky, a Roman Catholic priest who oversees 50 fellow chaplains in the Air Mobility Command. “But I’ve received no complaints from chaplains raising concerns that their ministries were in any way conflicted or constrained.”

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"I'm supporting the community."

Evidently not the Christian community, chaplain.

1 posted on 07/05/2012 12:21:49 PM PDT by madprof98
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anecdotal propaganda stories.

the left is not reduced to citing individual anecdotes as proof of normal for all society.

Obama is doing it by citing anecdotes to attack capitalism.

now we have homosexuals (again btw) USING such idiots as exceptions.

It would not be surprising if this chaplan was a closted one and is “in” to protect his colar of priesthood.


2 posted on 07/05/2012 12:29:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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In the military, it’s either “adjust” or take a hike. The choice is yours.


3 posted on 07/05/2012 12:29:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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“I don’t feel I’m compromising my beliefs “
This took place where? His chapel? I would have to say, he did compromise his beliefs.


4 posted on 07/05/2012 12:30:51 PM PDT by DMG2FUN
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We need Adultery Celebration Ceremonies to recognize the numerous previously hidden but passionate and personally important relationships that have been concealed for so many generations. I imagine this "chaplain" would be there to support the community, even if he didn't officiate.
5 posted on 07/05/2012 12:30:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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OMG!!! We have 50 MILLION HUMAN SACRIFICES (abortions), and now all this HOMOSEXUAL CRAP!! It really is enough to make a person go mad!! Is this still a country worth saving??? How did the people of Sodom and Gemorrah feel before they went so evil??


6 posted on 07/05/2012 12:31:47 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: madprof98
The Colonel doesn't represent this So. Baptist or any others that I know.
9 posted on 07/05/2012 12:31:58 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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"...Col. Timothy Wagoner has been an Air Force chaplain for 20 years, serving a denomination — the Southern Baptists — that rejects same-sex relationships. Yet here he was at the chapel he oversees, watching supportively as an airman and his male partner celebrated a civil union ceremony. “I wouldn’t miss it,” Wagoner said at the McGuire Air Force Base chapel, days later. “I don’t feel I’m compromising my beliefs … I’m supporting the community...”

He is rationalizing his 'supportiveness', and thereby supporting the entire thing.

Sad.

I know, I am not in a position to criticize, since I don't have to make a choice (yet) between my career and openly supporting homosexuality, but...he is a Baptist Chaplain. How can he be 'supportive' without compromising his beliefs?

This whole thing makes me want to vomit.

11 posted on 07/05/2012 12:32:21 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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The chaplain should change his denomination forthwith. Universalist would be more appropriate.

It is so damned sad watching the military of which I was a part for more than half my life circle the moral drain.


12 posted on 07/05/2012 12:32:45 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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Is this still a country worth saving???

I don't think it can be saved.. we reached the tipping point long ago.

13 posted on 07/05/2012 12:34:33 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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"I’m supporting the community"

"Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God?" James 4:4

14 posted on 07/05/2012 12:35:18 PM PDT by circlecity
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“In the military, it’s either “adjust” or take a hike.”

####

Everyone understands that.

The Queer military had better “adjust” to the fact that they are going to get less enlistments from their traditional and prime source of soldiers: Young, strong heterosexual males.

That demographic will increasingly be telling the military to “take a hike”.


15 posted on 07/05/2012 12:36:11 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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“But I’ve received no complaints from chaplains raising concerns that their ministries were in any way conflicted or constrained.”

Because they are...

get ready for it...

"FOLLOWING ORDERS!!"

That didn't work at Nuremberg; it isn't going to work at the final judgment either...

16 posted on 07/05/2012 12:38:18 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"In the military, it’s either “adjust” or take a hike. The choice is yours."

If you believe in the scriptures then there's really no choice, is there? It is only in the fire that's one's convictions are truely tested.

18 posted on 07/05/2012 12:39:23 PM PDT by circlecity
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I agree 100%. In the long run, straight people are going to stop enlisting. Why put up with all the homosexual BS. Homo commanders forcing you to march in “gay pride” parades and other moronic liberal crap.


19 posted on 07/05/2012 12:41:07 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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