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Lawyers Have Already Drafted 13,000 Pages of Regulations for New ObamaTax Law
thegatewaypundit.com ^ | July 5, 2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 07/05/2012 8:36:46 AM PDT by grundle

With the Supreme Court giving President Obama’s new health care law a green light, federal and state officials are turning to implementation of the law — a lengthy and massive undertaking still in its early stages, but already costing money and expanding the government.

The Health and Human Services Department “was given a billion dollars implementation money,” Republican Rep. Denny Rehberg of Montana said. “That money is gone already on additional bureaucrats and IT programs, computerization for the implementation.”

“Oh boy,” Stan Dorn of the Urban Institute said. “HHS has a huge amount of work to do and the states do, too. There will be new health insurance marketplaces in every state in the country, places you can go online, compare health plans.”

The IRS, Health and Human Services and many other agencies will now write thousands of pages of regulations — an effort well under way:

“There’s already 13,000 pages of regulations, and they’re not even done yet,” Rehberg said.

“It’s a delegation of extensive authority from Congress to the Department of Health and Human Services and a lot of boards and commissions and bureaus throughout the bureaucracy,” Matt Spalding of the Heritage Foundation said. “We counted about 180 or so.”

There has been much focus on the mandate that all Americans obtain health insurance, but analysts say that’s just a small part of the law — covering only a few pages out of the law’s 2700.

“The fact of the matter is the mandate is about two percent of the whole piece of the legislation,” Spalding said. “It’s a minor part.”

Much bigger than the mandate itself are the insurance exchanges that will administer $681 billion in subsidies over 10 years, which will require a lot of new federal workers at the IRS and health department.

“They are asking for several hundred new employees,” Dorn said. “You have rules you need to write and you need lawyers, so there are lots of things you need to do when you are standing up a new enterprise.”

For some, though, the bottom line is clear and troubling: The federal government is about to assume massive new powers.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2012; bhofascism; democrats; elections; govtabuse; lawyers; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; obamacareregulations; regulations; socialism; socialisthealthcare; tax; tyranny; waiver; waivers
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1 posted on 07/05/2012 8:36:50 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Congress, and Moslems are exempt.

And Congress’ staff. so these lawyers too.

Everyone who writes some Law is free of it.
How Obama is that?


2 posted on 07/05/2012 8:40:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: grundle
Although the regulations will be reviewed extensively by lawyers, they will actually be written and assembled into a coherent body by specialists whose primary talent is in thinking and writing ~ not tricking judges.

The reason for this is that rules written only by lawyers usually end up unused!

Best word for such materials is that they are drek.

The problem for this or any other government is that there are only a few dozen people in the entire country who have, at any one time, the native talent to write rules.

EPA, as you have probably guessed, doesn't let the subject matter experts near their rules ~ they write for the courts exclusively ~ and that's how private citizens run afoul of those EPA rules so easily.

3 posted on 07/05/2012 8:41:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: grundle

4 posted on 07/05/2012 8:41:32 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: grundle

I still say we should mount an effort to REQUIRE LAWYER Insurance for ALL Americans....see how the lawyer leeches like that! (And, NO, I do not think ALL Lawyers are leeches.)


5 posted on 07/05/2012 8:41:53 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: grundle

Oh Joy.


6 posted on 07/05/2012 8:42:32 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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7 posted on 07/05/2012 8:43:48 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: grundle
Roberts' Rules of ODER.
8 posted on 07/05/2012 8:45:28 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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Oh goodie, just what we need, lawyers creating rules and regulations for health care. What could possibly go wrong? People with only one tool in their tool belt, laws, should not be allowed within 10,000 miles of anything health related.

The communist professors who created the legal parasites must be so proud. Just like the success the of commie union teachers in public schools, the commie professors in law and journalism schools are doing their best to insure the success of the communist manifesto.

13,000 pages just for the current bill?

In my opinion, due to the volume of laws dumped upon the average citizen every year, ignorance of the law should be the avenue of first resort. Seems so many politicians use this excuse so why not the peons?


9 posted on 07/05/2012 8:46:05 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Diogenesis
Congress, and Moslems are exempt. And Congress’ staff. so these lawyers too. Everyone who writes some Law is free of it. How Obama is that?

The whole thing will end up with only white, non-union, working class, Christian taxpayers required to buy insurance or pay the penalty.


10 posted on 07/05/2012 8:47:56 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: grundle

Every backer of this horrific monstrosity should be condemned to the flames of hell.

Eff all of them.


11 posted on 07/05/2012 8:48:25 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Wurlitzer

“There’s already 13,000 pages of regulations, and they’re not even done yet,” Rehberg said.


12 posted on 07/05/2012 8:49:05 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Iron Munro

That’s indeed the goal.

And, the regulations and penalties will be set up such that they can be arbitrarily enforced or not, and they will only be enforced on that group which you named.

The point is to criminalize our beliefs.


13 posted on 07/05/2012 8:50:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Diogenesis
Everyone who writes some Law is free of it. How Obama is that?

That appears to be how "business" is done in this country these days. It all reminds me of the "We Say So Corporation" from the old Dinosaurs series.

Just one example. Here in Michigan, casinos lobbied for a smoking ban in bars but got an exemption for themselves. In my opinion it should be imposed on all or it should nullify the law automatically.
14 posted on 07/05/2012 8:50:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Problem is the public doesn’t know this

Damn the PACS have to get the facts out


15 posted on 07/05/2012 8:51:58 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: grundle

Congress already said the bill was too complicated to be read and would require the assistance of two lawyers and THAT’S from a Democrat who voted for it and mocked those who’d ask if he actually read it.

The purpose is to bloat it with red tape and loopholes so that anyone approaching it would become lost down the rabbithole trying to interpret it. Even another challenge to the Supreme Court would fall flat since they didn’t bother to read it and decided the case on “outcomes” not Constitution.

All or nothing, either put Congress under this monstrosity or junk it. Muslims too. Illegals, no.


16 posted on 07/05/2012 8:56:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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Congress already said the bill was too complicated to be read and would require the assistance of two lawyers and THAT’S from a Democrat who voted for it and mocked those who’d ask if he actually read it.

That was John Conyers.
17 posted on 07/05/2012 9:00:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Wurlitzer
Oh goodie, just what we need, lawyers creating rules and regulations for health care. What could possibly go wrong? People with only one tool in their tool belt, laws, should not be allowed within 10,000 miles of anything health related.

Not just any lawyers, but far Left liberal hacks will be the ones writing these rules. I highly doubt that anyone even remotely conservative is involved in this disaster.

18 posted on 07/05/2012 9:01:50 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: MrB

[ That’s indeed the goal.

And, the regulations and penalties will be set up such that they can be arbitrarily enforced or not, and they will only be enforced on that group which you named.

The point is to criminalize our beliefs. ]

The goal is also to setup an environment where “Selective Enforcement” is the rule of the day. That way political enemies can be punished under the “rule of law” and those that are political allies can get away with breaking their many rules as the enforcement branch will simply “look the other way and cough”.


19 posted on 07/05/2012 9:08:16 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: cripplecreek
John Conyers is also a lawyer...nuff said.
20 posted on 07/05/2012 9:12:27 AM PDT by JPG (Whatever semantics are used, it is still a TAX.)
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