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Spanking Linked to Mental Illness, Says Study
yahoo.com ^ | 7/3/2012 | Sarah Weir

Posted on 07/03/2012 4:56:37 AM PDT by Abathar

Although the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) strongly discourages spanking, at least half of parents admit to physically punishing their children. Some research suggests that as many as 70-90 percent of mothers have resorted to spanking at one time or another. A new study published in the journal Pediatrics may cause parents to think more carefully before laying a hand on their little ones.

Researchers examined data from more than 34,000 adults and found that being spanked significantly increased the risk of developing mental health issues as adults. According to their results, corporal punishment is associated with mood disorders, including depression and anxiety, as well as personality disorders and alcohol and drug abuse. They estimate that as much as 7 percent of adult mental illness may be attributable to childhood physical punishment, including slapping, shoving, grabbing, and hitting. The study reports that spanking ups the risk of major depression by 41 percent, alcohol and drug abuse by 59 percent, and mania by 93 percent, among other findings.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abuse; discipline; mentaldisorders; psychology
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I have to call BS on this, I believe the fact we don't spank as much is a big part of the problem we have now.
1 posted on 07/03/2012 4:56:44 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

Gee, it’s almost like there is an agenda behind this “research”. Almost.


2 posted on 07/03/2012 4:59:15 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Abathar

Total BS. Spanking is not a beating. And we should spank helluva lot more.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 4:59:33 AM PDT by farlander (Fiat Justitia, Ruat Caelum. Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: Abathar
From the communist goals of 1963

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

4 posted on 07/03/2012 5:00:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Abathar

I smell a BS study. A study conducted with an agenda. Conducted and structured to support a predetermined outcome.


5 posted on 07/03/2012 5:01:52 AM PDT by WayneM (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: Abathar

I think the psychiatrists are all nuts!


6 posted on 07/03/2012 5:05:52 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Abathar

Does this include spanking monkeys?


7 posted on 07/03/2012 5:07:03 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Abathar
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.-Proverbs 23:13

Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him..-Proverbs 22:15

8 posted on 07/03/2012 5:08:02 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Abathar

“I have to call BS on this, I believe the fact we don’t spank as much is a big part of the problem we have now. “
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I agree.
This is just more liberal leftist psychobabble.
I am now in my late 60s, but remember receiving modest
corporal punishment in my early youth.
I think I was far better adjusted then the leftist freakazoids that are running the country today.

I think the reason for America’s demise today is from the
new age nuts who have decided that ANY punishment is child abuse.


9 posted on 07/03/2012 5:09:45 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Abathar

Crap. Someone put LSD in my drink again. All those years at a major Pediatric hospital... LSD messes with your head.


10 posted on 07/03/2012 5:09:59 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth./7)
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To: Abathar

So, these folks think personal responsibility and being aware of your actions is a mental illness? I guess if your a liberal that makes sense.


11 posted on 07/03/2012 5:10:45 AM PDT by waiyu (Common sense isn't common to everyone.)
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To: FES0844

Considering that Freud is one of the unholy trinity of the so-called “school of suspicion” (the others are Karl Marx and Friedrich Nietzsche), psychiatry ought to be rejected as the abomination it is.


12 posted on 07/03/2012 5:11:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Abathar

I agree, pure BS. Shesh, I got my behind tanned when I deserved it.....I guess I should be in a rubber room suppressed by a straight jacket.


13 posted on 07/03/2012 5:13:10 AM PDT by raisincane (I'm an optimist...I think most people are half full of crap - Maxine)
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To: Abathar

I agree, pure BS. Shesh, I got my behind tanned when I deserved it.....I guess I should be in a rubber room suppressed by a straight jacket.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 5:13:34 AM PDT by raisincane (I'm an optimist...I think most people are half full of crap - Maxine)
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To: FES0844

“I think the psychiatrists are all nuts!”

That’s exactly why I switched my college major. All my classmates were trying to figure out what was wrong with themselves. Hey, I just though a few “Psychology Today” articles were interesting.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 5:14:38 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth./7)
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To: Abathar
Sorry...I read the title as: *Speaking* Linked to Mental Illness, Says Study.....going to make an appointment to get my eyes checked. :(


16 posted on 07/03/2012 5:15:43 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: cripplecreek
From the communist goals of 1963

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

Now, couple that with Dr. Benjamin Spock - who, through his book, did much to change how parents discipline their children and how society perceives spanking - with the knowledge that Dr. Spock ran for President in 1972 on the 'People's Party' ticket.

I really wish the Socialists in America would just go to France, the Commies would just go to Cuba and Sean Penn would just go to Hel...er...Venezuela.

17 posted on 07/03/2012 5:17:58 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Abathar

I don’t believe it for a minute...Liars...


18 posted on 07/03/2012 5:19:27 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Elsie

Barn hose beatings age 6-14 bump. Must be a Utah thing.


19 posted on 07/03/2012 5:21:03 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Abathar

Never use the hand to spank a child, use a paddle.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 5:22:02 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Olog-hai; pops88

Psychology/psychiatry is not necessarily an abomination, as suggested by Olog-hai. The primary issue is the dearth of Liberals controlling the education of the subjects in higher education.

I was forced out of the psychology department in college due to my “radical views” in suggesting such things as Kinsey being an immoral philanderer and Jung being a failure in everything else so he “made up” analytical psych. I still managed to get a minor in psych, but it’s not helped me anywhere in life except to make positive deductions about the personal lives of girls, a great party trick but useless in “the real world.”

Don’t get me started on Neitzche.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 5:22:31 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Abathar

Lack of spanking leads to mental illness: sociopathology!


22 posted on 07/03/2012 5:22:47 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
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To: Abathar

I am astonished that many of the same people that condemn any form of spanking have no qualms when it comes to prescribing drugs that alter brain chemistry in order to modify a child’s behavior.


23 posted on 07/03/2012 5:24:14 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: cdcdawg

Rob Reiner is a vocal anti-spanker.

For this reason, I give total strangers’ kids a swat on my way past. Joking of course.


24 posted on 07/03/2012 5:24:14 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Daffynition

Not enough coffee, or too much, is usually the culprit there...


25 posted on 07/03/2012 5:24:22 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Cause and effect is a hard thing to prove. Perhaps it is the other way around. That people who will develop mental illness have childhood behaviors that encourage more spanking.


26 posted on 07/03/2012 5:24:55 AM PDT by fteuph
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To: AlexW

I’m sure they approve of it among consenting, same sex adults.
You know, modern Progressives.


27 posted on 07/03/2012 5:25:28 AM PDT by steve8714 (Who didn't already know Obama was our first gay President?)
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To: Abathar

Shine.yahoo.com is geared towards leftist women


28 posted on 07/03/2012 5:26:37 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Spock is a piece of shit! My 10 year old cousin is a nightmare because my psychotic aunt refuses to do anything when he does wrong. It’s always, “Tell me why you’re doing this, son?” or “How does that make you feel?”

The little demon went through this phase where he would run up to the men in the family, punch them in the balls, and run away laughing like a little bastard sprite. He stopped when I grabbed him by the hair after doing it to me (landing a pretty good shot) and slammed him on the grass while outside tossing the football. Little bastard went running inside crying, and my aunt proceeded to castigate me for “disciplining” him. I said, “You won’t, so I did.”

That didn’t go over well, but hey, the little chit doesn’t play that game anymore.


29 posted on 07/03/2012 5:27:15 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: relictele

“Rob Reiner is a vocal anti-spanker.”

I have it on good authority that Rob Reiner is a meathead.


30 posted on 07/03/2012 5:28:13 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Abathar
Total BS.

There was a study of elephants and their behavior.

They found young elephants that were not disciplined by older elephants grew up abnormally violent.

31 posted on 07/03/2012 5:28:19 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: rarestia

Thanks, made me chuckle...ok, I admit I laughed out loud.


32 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:11 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth./7)
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To: Abathar

The key word, of course, is LINKED. Coincidental vs causal. How about a different interpretation: children who will eventually be diagnosed as having a mental illness are more likely to require discipline and respond better to physical than emotional discipline?

We need to stop wasting money on these studies.


33 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:40 AM PDT by wizwor
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To: Olog-hai
“...Freud is one of the unholy trinity...”

Fortunately, a good many in psychology reject Freud's “animalism”. The Carl Jung school of thought recognizes the need for spirituality for a healthy mind.

34 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:46 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
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To: Abathar

“Although the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) strongly discourages spanking...”

This is why you have to ALWAYS treat your pediatrician, just like school teachers, as a threat to your family. My kids have been asked by him, when alone with him, whether there were any guns in the house...and this is a nice guy. This is also why you have CAREFULLY TRAIN your kids to give the CORRECT ANSWERS to possible questions. So, if junior is asked (by anyone) whether he’s spanked, he simply says NO!. And the way to be sure that he says no is to make it clear to him that if he says yes, he’ll get a new mommy and daddy - always works. And, obviously, never leave junior alone with the doctor, particularly when young.

There are people you can trust and people you cannot trust. Doctors and teachers are at risk of losing their licenses and possible jail time if they don’t tell the authorities about family behavior that meets an ever-changing standard set by the state, especially in blue states.

So, be careful out there.


35 posted on 07/03/2012 5:30:19 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Olog-hai

Benjamin Spock, MD, has a lot to answer for as well.


36 posted on 07/03/2012 5:30:48 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Abathar

So much nonsense.

When you teach a child early, that there are “consequences”, they learn boundaries much more quickly, and certainly.

The children who do not learn these life lessons are the ones more likely to thrash around behaviorally, seeking these boundaries.

They want and need guidance, and repeatedly shouting “no”, is NOT “guidance”.


37 posted on 07/03/2012 5:32:06 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: Abathar

“Spanking Linked to Mental Illness, Says Study”

I am completely on board with this study. Every time you spank a child (especially in public) a democrat/liberal/socialist/commie/useful idiot goes crazy.


38 posted on 07/03/2012 5:32:48 AM PDT by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Abathar

I think they’re confusing spanking with child abuse. I know people who were abused as kids, and they show most of these symptoms. Those who were spanked (properly) are much better adjusted.


39 posted on 07/03/2012 5:33:18 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Abathar
Progressive-speak: Spanking can harm a child's mental health, but having a homosexual "facilitator" help that same child to "explore" his/her sexual otherness is perfectly healthy.

These monsters will stand before God too.

40 posted on 07/03/2012 5:34:17 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Don't vote for anyone who worked for Goldman Sachs)
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To: Abathar

An initiative I can get behind.

41 posted on 07/03/2012 5:39:11 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If America were a car, the "Check President" light would be on.)
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To: Abathar

Negative correlation, if any. Must be the same scientists who hold that religion is a delusion.


42 posted on 07/03/2012 5:41:59 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A Dalmation was spotted trotting down the street...)
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To: rarestia
My sister was a Spock devotee, as well. Her child was a little ball of annoying energy that we were all supposed to just deal with. One day, he was jumping on the couch and I asked her if she was going to discipline him. She told me that thanks to Dr. Spock, she doesn't need violent discipline; she ‘reasons’ with him. A little while later, he jumped up on and then through a glass coffee table. Thankfully, he escaped virtually unharmed but I asked my sister if she now understood why reasoning with a 3 year old is pointless when they need to be protected from themselves.
43 posted on 07/03/2012 5:43:23 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Abathar

I have three rules:

#1 Never use my hand.
#2 Never spank out of anger.
#3 Always sit down with the child afterwards and explain why it was necessary and that I love them.


44 posted on 07/03/2012 5:44:50 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: Abathar

“A new study published in the journal Pediatrics may cause parents to think more carefully before laying a hand on their little ones. “

I rather think this may cause parents to think more carefully before believing what a load of crap this study and others may profess.


45 posted on 07/03/2012 5:45:24 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Abathar

Correlation is not causation. Did these morons set their agenda aside long enough to consider that kids with mental illness may be less responsive to milder forms of discipline than healthier kids, so the direction of causality may be the reverse of what they assume?


46 posted on 07/03/2012 5:45:55 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Heh heh heh.


47 posted on 07/03/2012 5:46:17 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: sigzero

“#1 Never use my hand.”

I only used my hand. My kids could EASILY distinguish when it was meant for their butts and when it was not.


48 posted on 07/03/2012 5:48:46 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Abathar

Bullcrap. My sister-in-law is bi-polar and was never spanked (I know this for a fact). I wonder if they included her.


49 posted on 07/03/2012 5:49:38 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: BobL

Although the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) strongly discourages spanking...”

This is why you have to ALWAYS treat your pediatrician, just like school teachers, as a threat to your family. My kids have been asked by him, when alone with him, whether there were any guns in the house...and this is a nice guy. This is also why you have CAREFULLY TRAIN your kids to give the CORRECT ANSWERS to possible questions. So, if junior is asked (by anyone) whether he’s spanked, he simply says NO!. And the way to be sure that he says no is to make it clear to him that if he says yes, he’ll get a new mommy and daddy - always works. And, obviously, never leave junior alone with the doctor, particularly when young.

There are people you can trust and people you cannot trust. Doctors and teachers are at risk of losing their licenses and possible jail time if they don’t tell the authorities about family behavior that meets an ever-changing standard set by the state, especially in blue states.

So, be careful out there.
________________________

All physicans esp PCPs have this leftist drivel as part of their practice. Physicans are as much part of the State as social workers or nurses.


50 posted on 07/03/2012 5:52:22 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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