Caught with their lies in their hands...CBSNEWS reporting???
Posted on 06/29/2012 4:59:57 PM PDT by tsowellfan
A memo published by White House Senior Adviser David Plouffe advises allies to mislead when they discuss the recent Supreme Court decision on the individual mandate, saying they should call it a penalty when it is in fact a tax.
“In light of yesterday’s Supreme Court ruling to uphold the Affordable Care Act, Republicans in Washington are trying to deliberately misrepresent the President’s record of cutting taxes for the middle class,” Plouffe wrote in his memo Friday.
“We welcome this debate on middle class taxes, and we urge you to seize this opportunity to go on offense to illustrate how the President and Democrats in Congress are standing up for the middle class.”
Plouffe’s memo offered several talking points that White House allies could use when discussing Obama’s record on taxes. One of those talking points misleads on the individual mandate, calling it a penalty instead of a tax.
“For those that can afford health insurance but stay uninsured—forcing the rest of us to
subsidize their care for free—a penalty is administered,” the memo reads.
Calling the mandate a penalty is false, since the Supreme Court ruled Thursday that it was in fact a tax, not a penalty.
“The Affordable Care Act’s requirement that certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably be characterized as a tax,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the court.
Roberts rejected the idea that the mandate was a penalty, saying that even the Obama administration agreed that the mandate was not, in fact, a penalty.
“In distinguishing penalties from taxes, this Court has explained that ‘if the concept of penalty means anything, it means punishment for an unlawful act or omission,’ Roberts wrote. “The Government agrees with that reading, confirming that if someone chooses to pay rather than obtain health insurance, they have fully complied with the law.”
In other words, because the law does not punish people for not having insurance beyond taxing them, the mandate is not a penalty.
The Obama administration has twice avoided the facts of the court’s ruling, which upheld the mandate as constitutional because it is a tax.
Obama himself did not admit the mandate was a tax in his Thursday press conference, praising the ruling, and White House Press Secretary Jay Carney called it a mandate while talking to reporters aboard Air Force One Friday.
LIE LIKE HELL
Caught with their lies in their hands...CBSNEWS reporting???
mmm mmm mmmmm
CNS News — big difference.
CNS News = reporting
CBS News = socialist propaganda
Purely rhetorical question: How does one justify "penalizing" a person who can afford health insurance but chooses to pay for his health care out of his own pocket (like Rush, for example) when that person is not "forcing the rest of us to subsidize his care"?
Looks like John Roberts read the memo.
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Lies and deceit, that’s all they have. Scum!
POOF! PLOUFFE!
Exactly. After all, practice makes perfect.
Progressive SOP.
So now they are describing the uninsured as freeloaders and slackers. Isn’t this racist to all of those poor working Mexican families that couldn’t afford health care since the Clinton years...
Everyone of us knows someone in thier life that is known to lie consistantly to your face, when you are in the company of this person how do you feel? There selling us a bag of sh#t and telling us it’s caviar. Insulting the American “middleclass” intelligence on the road to the WH is all they have. Defeat is not an option it is a necessity
I have a simple rebuttal for all their lies:
The Biggest Single Tax Increase In The History Of The World
Pelosi calls it
“technical stuff” that doesn’t concern anyones attention.
They are in a panic!
Roberts gave Obamacaretax a life preserver to BHO’s sinking Titanic and filled it with lead shot.
“Obamacaretax”
I am calling it 0bama Ddeathcaretax. O-DCT. It is, after all, an edict. The 0-DCT edict of legal dicta.
I know a couple of people like that. One of them worked in a corner store grocery store bagging. He wasn't even 20 yet and told us that he was the promoter at the local arena for concerts. He'd even dress the part whenever he wasn't working. Everybody knew him to be a liar but never told him. One day in the early 1980s he told us he's getting out of work early because he has a dinner meeting with Michael Jackson. LOL! Even his boss would laugh at the things he said.
Another time (and I don't know how his mom would ever agree to do this) he wanted to test his girlfriend's love for him. He told his mom he would be in the cellar listening when his mom would break the bad news to the girlfriend by telling a lie that he had just been killed in a car accident. My brother was at the table not knowing it was all a lie when his mom told her to sit down for some bad news.
This man did grow up to own several different record and video stores through his life. He'd start a business (probably lied to the bank for the loans) he'd get the business growing well, actually get nationally known celebrity rock stars including Van Halen into the store to sign autographs (and this part is real) and he'd always make sure he got photos taken with each one but eventually he'd go out of business, go back to bagging for a local grocery store and then again open up another store.
This man had done a lot in his life though at this point he's back to phase one again. He always appeared to believe his own lies. I think what he did was tell the lie then work like heck to be able to prove them to you. I think that was how he did some of the things he's done in life. A wierd way of setting goals.
It's an insult to my intelligence when someone lies but this particular man, after a while the insult faded as it appeared that even he was believing them.
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