Skip to comments.Beck on the ObamaCare ruling: I sure am tired of prominent Republicans selling out conservatives
Posted on 06/28/2012 10:07:19 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
A sentiment widely shared today, no doubt. Over at Aces place, DrewM issues a warning:
This is your last chance. If you blow this, Im out and you need to be destroyed.
What is it? Repeal ObamaCare on Day 1. Dont worry about replace, dont worry about anything else
[A]s soon as Mitt takes the oath of office, before his speech no one will care or remember, walk the bill up to him at the podium to sign.
If this does not happen, the GOP must be destroyed and a new party built to replace it. Weve tried the carrot approach (votes, money, volunteers) to change your behavior. Now its time to show you the stick.
David Frum counters: If you think the GOPs going to repeal ObamaCare now, youre kidding yourselves.
"[E]ven if Republicans do win the White House and Senate in 2012, how much appetite will they then have for that 1-page repeal bill? Suddenly it will be their town halls filled with outraged senior citizens whose benefits are threatened; their incumbencies that will be threatened. Already we are hearing that some Republicans wish to retain the more popular elements of the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Which means the proposed 1-page bill will begin to grow
Republicans will find the task of writing their replace law even more agonizing than the Democrats found original passage. The party has no internal consensus on what a replacement would look like. Worse, any replacement of the laws popular elements will require financing. But where is that money to come from? New taxes are unacceptable. The proceeds of closing loopholes are already spoken forthats how President Romney has promised to finance his promise to cut the top rate of tax 28%. And hes also promised to increase defense spending "
Thats all fine, but Drews captured the mood of the base well in his post, I think. If the GOP ends up with the numbers to repeal O-Care, itd be a catastrophic, possibly politically fatal betrayal at this point for them not to follow through. The fact that it was Roberts who swung to the left in todays decision rather than the mercurial Kennedy only compounds conservatives trauma: At this point, a la Beck, it really does feel like theres no one in a position of power who can be trusted. The last Republican president ran up big deficits and expanded health-care entitlements; the Republican chief justice he appointed just voted to uphold ObamaCare; and the current Republican nominee pioneered the concept of health-care mandates in Massachusetts. If a Republican-controlled Congress rubber-stamps Obamas health-care leviathan by refusing to act on it, I dont know what happens to turnout in 2014 and 2016. Good news for the No Labels crowd, I guess thatll be the closest Americas come yet to seeing a true third party develop. Democrats on the left, conservatives on the right, and the no-labels rump of the GOP smack dab in the center. They might as well take their chances with angry seniors at those townhalls; you might win them back eventually, but you wont win back righties whove suffered one too many sellouts.
You are delusional.
Third Party talk is for those who do not want to win, at anything.
[ I miss Glenn Beck on FNC. He kicks butts, that is why he was shoved off. ]
The Blaze TV!
He is on that!
I can name one republican who voted for Obamacare and that would
be Justice Roberts!!!!”
David Frum claims that seniors will be outraged if the GOP tries to repeal Obamacare? Seriously?
I wonder if these seniors know that Obamacare cuts $500 billion from Medicare. Also, Obamacare will ultimately lead to healthcare rationing and those imfamous death panels Sarah Palin warned about. “Sorry, grandma, you need a heart valve replacement? You’re 88 years old. Go home, take a pill, and prepare to meet your maker.”
What a country.
“Name the Republicans who voted in favor of Obamacare?”
Olympia Snowe voted to let it out of committee in the Senate. She could have stopped it cold. There’s a reason she retired this year. It would have been nicer had Maine Republicans been able to primary her and defeat her, though.
What win? The GOP has never cut spending and never blinked at raising the debt ceiling. You are delusional.
I have to hand it to Obama and his administration - they set out to fundamentally transform this country to what they want and they are stopping at absolutely nothing to get it done. They don’t go weak in the knees and spend a ton of time worrying about what the Republicans think. They are absolutely ruthless, shameless, and have no fear of the law. They are doing what is necessary. Obama has no respect for the Constitution and he’s successfully shredded it.
I will fight through November but - we did that in 2010 and in the end what did it get us? Maybe moving to a GOP state is an option - if they can escape this monstrosity.
Hi Kansas, I’m not talking third party. I’m talking replacing the Repubs. Plus, this would be in the future sometime, certainly not 2012.
I fear that if the Republicans do not repeal Obamacare in toto, they will share the fate of the British Liberal Party which broke up in the 1920s and has never sinve chosen a prime minister, even though a large number of constituencies have always voted Liberal. And there is no conservative equivalent to the Labour Party to assume the role of alternative.
Michael Weiner is a liberal Democrat. Nobody should take the ‘Savage’ character seriously. Glenn Beck is a closet Romneybot, likewise always acting.
Yes and yes
Why don’t we just secede? I’m sure that could be a bipartisan effort, the libs hate us just as much as we hate them. Solid blue states became a new nation, solid red states become a new nation, purple states choose which to belong to through popular vote. Open borders for the first few years for blue state conservatives/red state liberals to migrate over. What’s the issue here?
There is nothing of value to win, except in the collapse of the entire Federal Government. Eventually liberals will bring that about for us, and when they do I hope to be fully prepared both individuality and politically to take advantage of the crisis to fully and permanently sever the abusive bonds of union with them.
If the Republican party wants to sell us out again and again, then we must seek new bonds for our happiness and security. As is obliviously the case when it comes to these united States formerly united under a real constitution.
The issue is Washington doesn’t want to give up its dictatorial power (as dysfunctional for everyone else as it is), and those of us who haven’t quite got the clue thou their head that we can’t compromise.
Then there are of course those still attached to the sentimental bonds of union of which i suspect there may still be a great many particularly among those oblivious to the extraordinary and growing cost.
“This could do to the GOP what the Kansas-Nebreska act to the Whigs-destroy it”
On this I agree, such is the magnitude of the present crisis.
But even if it is, Roberts has established the precedent for the use of a tax to compel anything. Buy a GM Obamamobile or pay a tax; buy solar company stock or pay a penalty, for examples. We will have to be ever vigilant in every Congress.
So, if it is a tax, then companies are going to prefer to pay the tax. However, hiring overseas means they will get the tax loophole. Meanwhile everyday Americans who cannot afford the tax will get a IRS lien or jail time, and their passport will be confiscated!!!!????
What kind of fascist system is this? We had Nazis, communists and now we have the IRS and US.gov bureaucracy.
Time to head for the hills and run out to Mexico, or go illegal and work on the black market.
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