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Will you buy health insurance? Or will you not comply?

Posted on 06/28/2012 12:15:47 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

What say you to the king? He deemeth that thou shalt buy insurance, or face the wrath of a dictator scorn.

You ready to stand on your feet? Or are you living on your knees?


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KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; commiecare; iwillnotcomply; obamacare; obamneycare; romneycare; romneycare4ever; romneycare4u; romneycarelives; tyranny; waronliberty
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

It does not matter. Deathcare is here. Medicare is refusing “unnecessary” medical procedures (that are necessary) even if you can raise the money and pay cash. My Wife (Neurologist) reported this week a case of this. The only solution is the ballot box and in particular the Senate.


41 posted on 06/28/2012 12:39:20 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; Salvation; NYer

Has anyone noticed the intersection of this decision—complete with its dire implications for religious liberty—with the feast of the 2nd Century Martyr Irenaeus of Lyons and the eve of the feast of the martyrdom of the great Apostles Peter and Paul?


42 posted on 06/28/2012 12:39:23 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Daveinyork

Too many believed that that is the case.

And, it actually will be if you’re in the “select few” that will get vouchers. These groups will be democrat voters.


43 posted on 06/28/2012 12:40:52 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The fine goes up every year.”

The employers will dump their provided insurance and the individual will be forced into the insurance pools. The insurers will reap a short term bonanza and then be forced out of business as an inevitable single payer becomes necessary. The insurers think they can maneuver these waters. They can’t IMHO.


44 posted on 06/28/2012 12:40:52 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: ohiobushman
I also heard a portion of the money paid will go to support abortions.I will go to jail before I support baby killers

Tax money & private insurance is ALREADY supporting abortions. Every insurance carrier has paid for abortion for years.

45 posted on 06/28/2012 12:41:42 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

part of 0bamacare is increased funding for baby killing

I ain’t paying


46 posted on 06/28/2012 12:42:14 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What about the 50 million “illegals”????? They don’t pay for insurance now. Will they be fined,deported, or continue getting it for free????


47 posted on 06/28/2012 12:43:01 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: JimSEA

They’ll get while the gettin’s good,
then go bankrupt, leaving many greatly enriched,
and the rest of us devoid of any choice but a government plan.


48 posted on 06/28/2012 12:44:10 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: HarryCrowel

Harry ,,,, I’m no sure I understand what you are saying here .


49 posted on 06/28/2012 12:45:36 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: moovova
There are about 512,000 cases per year in federal courts that involve a single class of law ~ federal tort claims.

The only reason they go there is that 2% get called up and go to court ~ all the others are settled through a variety of procedures before they get to where they need to bother a judge.

There are no such procedures with the IRS enforcement requirement for ObamaKKKare penalties. Given current problems with bills in this country ~ it is conceivable we could have well over 1,000,000 people NOT paying their Obamatax on their insurance payment requirement.

I think that could easily collapse the entire federal judiciary.

It is not likely IRS can go to this Congress and get more funds for more agents than they already have, nor will the DOJ get more money for the lawyers needed to handle these cases, nor will there be any more courts created to handle them.

Worse, it is unlikely that any Republican House majority would go along with approving any sort of shot-circuit for this litigative disaster.

Plus, they aren't going to build more prisons for more people who didn't pay their IRS fines.

50 posted on 06/28/2012 12:46:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ohiobushman

This family won’t obey either and support baby killers. I will never knowingly support that. If I have to be a martyr and go to jail, fine. I’ve got eternity to think about. At least in jail I’ll get “3 hots and a cot,” as well as free health care. When I was young and the hospital I worked for wanted 100% compliance with giving to the United Way, I wouldn’t do that either for the same reason. Considering I worked in NICU, I don’t think I was alone in non-compliance. I think the government is going to have a major headache trying to enforce commie care.


51 posted on 06/28/2012 12:47:07 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

One thing that is 100% certain to lower health costs overall and that is NO INSURANCE period.

As long as we keep subsidizing what doctors, hospitals, labs, farm-A-Sue-dickels charge, there are no market forces to keep costs in check.

Not only do the subsidies keep the costs artificially high, the cost of administering the insurance plans, money paid to salesmen/saleswomen and commissions to brokers, and the huge salaries paid to the CEOs have to be paid by somebody and that somebody is the policy holder regardless if their employer “pays for it”. Dirty secret, your free or reduced policy from your employer is part of your salary. It is part of the cost of hiring you.

A much better case can be made for government food as you will die without food but you certainly can live without healthcare. Maybe not as well or as long but you can live without it. Hell doctors/hospitals don’t even guarantee their work even though they claim to be highly trained professionals.

Even though my wife works for a large insurance company, I always tell the doctor, lab, diagnostic operation that I don’t have coverage and my cost is always lower than what is normal and customary rate paid.

What we do need is a bare minimum out of pocket per year co-pay then a fixed percentage of income for charges beyond co-pay so that the customer/patient is always affected somewhat by their use of the medical system but not enough to put them into bankruptcy.

Doctors/lawyers and government are depending on milking us just like a dairy cow. They will keep us alive as long as they can keep milking us to keep them and their ruling elite friends in a comfortable life style. Once we no longer produce milk they want the death panels to do exactly what George Bernard Shaw wanted and that was we had to justify our existence and if we did not....worm chow.


52 posted on 06/28/2012 12:47:19 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: pops88

For now, Christian healthcare sharing organizations “qualify” as insurance under 0bamacare.

http://www.samaritanministries.org/

Probably not for long, though. This would be anti-thetical to their anti-Christian worldview. They just haven’t been able to figure out how to let the Muslims not pay and make the Christians pay.


53 posted on 06/28/2012 12:48:38 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: jeffc

Companies would love to get out of the business of providing health care for their employees.

One of the reasons outsourcing is so popular, you don’t have to pay for their healthcare.


54 posted on 06/28/2012 12:49:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RetiredArmy
Post #24

Is everyone aware there is an 80 thousand man militia embedded in this bill as well as 16 thou. IRS agents ?

55 posted on 06/28/2012 12:51:06 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Can you get an exemption if you are a Muslim?...Some have told me so. Allah Akbar!


56 posted on 06/28/2012 1:00:06 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I WILL NOT COMPLY.

5.56mm

57 posted on 06/28/2012 1:01:15 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I refuse.

I’ll go to jail.

Civil Disobedience.

Fill the prisons with millions of conscentious objectors, and overwhelm the system.

Crash and burn, USA, you can’t enslave the people without consequences.


58 posted on 06/28/2012 1:02:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Individual Liberty, R.I.P, 6/28/2012)
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To: pops88
This family won’t obey either and support baby killers.

The private insurance you are on and the premiums you pay already covers abortions............

59 posted on 06/28/2012 1:04:09 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I had ruled out moving myself and my company to some offshore location, but I’ll re-evaluate that. If I stay in the US then, if I’m carrying too many parasites on my back I’ll just “go Galt”... and maybe become a parasite myself.


60 posted on 06/28/2012 1:05:52 PM PDT by The Duke
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