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Matt Miller: John Roberts, insurance industry shill
The Washington Post ^ | 6/28/12 | Matt Miller

Posted on 06/28/2012 12:15:27 PM PDT by RightCenter

...Roberts’s historic hand on the scale Thursday was the only way to preserve a central role for private insurers in American health care in the years ahead. In this sense, Roberts’ epic choice is therefore not only small “c” conservative as a matter of judicial temperament but economically conservative to boot. What the chief justice has done is nothing less than save shortsighted partisans bent on overturning Obamacare from themselves. As I and others have long argued, a successful drive to overturn the Affordable Care Act, combined with a continued surge in the ranks of the uninsured, would almost certainly have put America on a path to a single-payer system, about whose constitutionality there has never been any doubt. The only way to move toward universal coverage via private health plans is to require everyone to be in the insurance pool and to offer subsidies to lower-income folks who’d otherwise be unable to buy a policy. Conservatives understood these facts and supported this approach until President Obama decided to adopt their ideas and put real money behind them. ... The left is (rightly) cheering the vindication of Romneycare, which the president now has a legal green light to take national. Mitt Romney is assailing his own pioneering policy and vowing to scrap it at the federal level if he gets the chance. And Roberts is being trashed by supposed champions of the private sector, whose role in health-care finance has in fact been preserved by Roberts’s surprise switcheroo. That may not have been the chief justice’s intent — his real motives and reasoning in this historic exercise of power may be known only to his wife — but it’s the result. If conservatives had any sense of their long-term interests they’d be thanking him.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; obamacare; roberts; robertscourtscotus
sounds like the author is arguing that the insurance companies are in cahoots with the federal government... corporatism anyone???
1 posted on 06/28/2012 12:15:31 PM PDT by RightCenter
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To: RightCenter
. corporatism anyone???

The proper term is "Fascism."

2 posted on 06/28/2012 12:16:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RightCenter

Maybe someone who is photoshop savvy can replace the RomenyPimp/Used car saleman guys face with JC Robert’s?


3 posted on 06/28/2012 12:20:54 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: dfwgator

The author is not wrong. Obama offered to bring them 40 million new paying customers at gunpoint and they started to salivate. That’s why this was not destroyed early on with Harry and Louise ads.


4 posted on 06/28/2012 12:21:07 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RightCenter

And Ann “not my mawwwwwwww” Richards (Dimbulb) said that insurance rates would go down in Texas with “mandatory” car/driver’s insurance.

HA!


5 posted on 06/28/2012 12:23:01 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: RightCenter

Try to remeber this ,,,, Commicare was sold as a mandate ,,, but defended as a tax before the SCOTUS . It occurs to me this was just another fraud perpetrated on the citizens by 0bama .

From now on the word mandate is defined as a tax .


6 posted on 06/28/2012 12:24:10 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: RightCenter

Roberts is a statist who rewrote a law (somethings judges cannot legally do) to pave the way for Fascism.

He is a fascist with a big F.


7 posted on 06/28/2012 12:27:04 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Lionheartusa1

The law says it is a penatly. That is what it is, not a tax. Roberts is with the Rat judges because he is intellectually dishonest and has an agenda.


8 posted on 06/28/2012 12:29:06 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: RightCenter

Under Obamacare, the federal bureucracy has the power to dictate the terms and conditions of the insurance policies and even to dictate the ratio of expenses to premiums.

It’s not a free market model, it is designed to produce a few behemoth insurance companies that are completely intertwined with the federal bureaucracy.

The behemoth insurance companies would evolve into quasi-government entities like Fannie and Freddie before the crash, except even more entangled in the government.

Eventually, there will be an enormous financial collapse of these entities and they will be folded directly into the government.

However, just like the executives of Fannie and Freddie, the people placed into executive positions at these companies will be Democrat party hacks who will make enormous sums of money in those positions.


9 posted on 06/28/2012 12:30:48 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: dfwgator
"The proper term is "Fascism."

Ditto.

10 posted on 06/28/2012 12:34:45 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Just like the insurance industry. disgusting.


11 posted on 06/28/2012 12:35:26 PM PDT by RightCenter
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To: RightCenter
rivate sector, whose role in health-care finance has in fact been preserved by Roberts’s surprise switcheroo

How so? The government simply undercuts private sector prices with tax penalties slightly cheaper than the cost of a private policy.

12 posted on 06/28/2012 12:39:51 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

The tax or mandate is considered a premium for coverage the penality is a fine for not enrolling .


13 posted on 06/28/2012 12:42:19 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: RightCenter

The author is 100% correct. I’ve been trying to tell folks that you are barking up the wrong tree if you try to say Obama is forcing socialism on us. He’s not. Truly. As much as I hate it this is not socialism. He would have implemented medicare for all if he was truly after a communist takeover of health care.

It’s actually far worse. I’s a total and complete handout of hundreds of millions to the insurance companies, that technically is capitalism. It’s corporatism at it’s absolute worst.

Bringing in corporate power is one of the few things I may actually somewhat agree with the left on. They HAVE gotten too big and powerful, and this is another example of it.


14 posted on 06/28/2012 1:00:37 PM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: Meet the New Boss

Bingo - 0bamacare is designed to eventually collapse the insurance companies and create a gov’t single payer system.


15 posted on 06/28/2012 1:08:30 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Meet the New Boss

Bingo. I’ve never believed this is about cost affordability, insurance for all, no pre-existing conditions, or coverage for unemployed post-adolescent offspring. These are just shiny objects to influence the undiscerning, and 0’s statement hauled them all out once again. This is about the power and control over a huge segment of the economy and individual behavior. This is Fannie/Freddie and Solyndra to orders of magnitude. A gigantic amount of money is now available to reward interests who will contribute to his campaign. There will be uncountable exemptions to those important to the regime.

My small community has already received $24 million in implementation
funds, to “organize” the health care system to fit the vision. Most here are dazzled. The terrible results will occur down the road, but the system’s infrastructure will have grown deep roots by then.


16 posted on 06/28/2012 1:18:54 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Lou Budvis
Of course. The insurance companies may see dollar signs now but when the excitement dies out, there will be only gubmint health service left.

Obama has said outright he favors a single payer and that it will take a few years to get there. "Single payer" does not mean a competitive free market. It means gubmint monopoly. And John Roberts just moved up the timetable for him today.

17 posted on 06/28/2012 1:24:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RightCenter

Chicago Law, anyone can be bought. Some have a higher price.


18 posted on 06/28/2012 1:27:41 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: ntnychik
A gigantic amount of money is now available to reward interests who will contribute to his campaign.

Exactly. Remember how it became impossible to reign in Fannie and Freddie because of their enormous lobbying power.

Obama received the most money from Fannie and Freddie than any other senator during his time in the Senate.

These giant quasi-governmental health insurance entities will become the most powerful lobbying entities in Washington.

Their profitability will be directly determined by the decisions of government bureaucrats and their pet members of Congress. All of their efforts will be toward influencing Congress and the bureaucracy to resist any movement to change their arrangements.

19 posted on 06/28/2012 1:28:28 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Lou Budvis; hitchwolf

U 2 should talk 2 each other.


20 posted on 06/28/2012 1:32:22 PM PDT by kenavi (Obama doesn't hate private equity. He wants to be it with our money.)
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To: RightCenter
Ha! Ha!...and all those Conservatives thought I would walk the line...
21 posted on 06/28/2012 1:34:58 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: RightCenter

There is nothing conservative about Robert’s vote.


22 posted on 06/28/2012 1:35:54 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: RightCenter

I disagree. The health insurance industry is walking dead with this ruling.
Not right away but, they will be gone in 5-10 yrs.
I know someone in the industry and that’s what he says.

The gov./Obama/democrat vision is single payer. the Fed as the payer.

It will give them total control over the people because practically every thing we do, eat has an impact on our health. Costs doncha know.


23 posted on 06/28/2012 2:56:14 PM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: Lou Budvis; Meet the New Boss; hitchwolf
Bingo - 0bamacare is designed to eventually collapse the insurance companies and create a gov’t single payer system.

Bingo ditto. Employers dump their employees out of company health plans (see other thread -- they were already going for it), and presto -- single player, single payer.

Howard Raines, former chief editor of The New York Times who got chased out by the Jayson Blair scandal, told us in October 2008 in an article he wrote for Conde' Nast's Portfolio that this was baked in the cake.

The Republicans threw the 2008 election so Obama could take the popularity hit for employers' dumping their employee health plan and flowing the premiums down to the bottom line -- with a brief stop for magnificent executive "competitiveness" and "capital formation" bonuses. It was a done deal, negotiated and executed through the think tanks -- Harvard for the liberals, American Enterprise Institute for the Business Roundtable/Chamber/RNC.

hitchwolf, try untangling your "is" and "isn't" statements so that your statements actually parse.

Thought I'd better say something now, since you Hillary! Democrats are usually pretty short-lived in this forum.

24 posted on 06/28/2012 3:57:46 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: ntnychik
The terrible results will occur down the road, but the system’s infrastructure will have grown deep roots by then.

The target demographic for this program is huge. It's every lax mom with malnourished, sugar-tweaking kids who wants access to a doctor. Now the 'Rats will have the program necessary to organize them politically, to MAKE them UNDERSTAND that their kids' health is Obama Health, just like those Obama phones and Obama gimmes.

This will give the Rats the White House for 300 years. Or until it burns down under a mushroom cloud.

25 posted on 06/28/2012 4:03:57 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Erratum:

Howell Raines not "Howard" Raines. Don't know how I missed that on edit; stupid error.

26 posted on 06/28/2012 4:10:19 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: RightCenter

Romney can ride this all the way to November - THIS IS A TAX declares the Supreme Court.

Won’t pay one dime more in taxes, right? Ready made campaign slogan....


27 posted on 06/28/2012 4:40:04 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Buckeye McFrog
its always been about money....TAKING money from one group and giving it to other groups...

I remind everyone that the only ones who will pay for this bill are the ones already paying....we pay our taxes...we buy insurance...and now, we get to pay more in taxes and our premiums will go up while our choices go down...

what a country....

get off the grid......stop feeding the monster...

28 posted on 06/28/2012 4:57:18 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Georgia Girl 2
If Roberts is pro life he just bent over backwards to make we Catholics who have traditional and real beliefs support and pay for abortions...

I imagine we'll be paying for transgender surgery, for sex selection, for birth control, etc...

Roberts no matter how you paint it just screwed us...

29 posted on 06/28/2012 5:36:57 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Yep!


30 posted on 06/28/2012 6:11:01 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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