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Supreme Court upholds Obamacare individual mandate as a tax
Yahoo ^ | 6/28/12 | me

Posted on 06/28/2012 8:56:07 AM PDT by goodnesswins

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To: Diogenesis

LOL! I needed that after this weeks SC debacle.


41 posted on 06/28/2012 9:59:54 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: goodnesswins

For me it means that once the pre-existing condition part goes into effect I will stop my health insurance.

I’ll happily pay the paultry penalty to save hundreds every month. I’ll just get insurance on my way to the hospital if anything bad happens.

This was the rule in Washington state for a while back in the late 90’s. I worked at Blue Cross at the time. It was a joke. Couples would get pregnant, buy our health insurance to cover them through the pregnancy, and then cancel it after the baby was born.

It was not workable in the long run and cost us a fortune. Fortunately it was only temporary.

Oh, and a LOT of health insurance companies left the state.


42 posted on 06/28/2012 10:07:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: FrdmLvr
Strangely enough, TCM (Turner Classic Movies) ran a movie named” Advise and Consent” Plenty of big name, and character actors as well. Anyway the story goes like this...

Senate investigation into the President's newly nominated Secretary of State, gives light to a secret from the past, which may not only ruin the candidate, but the President's character as well.
I wont ruin the ending “Butt” I think your Dads on to something :)

43 posted on 06/28/2012 10:09:44 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: cuban leaf
Starve the beast.

Don't all of you get it yet? It is you and I the working class the everyday people who will suffer.

This is not about insurance never has been.

They have just announced to the working class ,those that get paychecks or have small businesses that they are now economic slaves of the government and their rich elite sponsors.

That is exactly what they have just done.

The government now has the right to tell you how you are to spend your money and if you do not spend it on what they want you to, when they want you to, regardless of your situation then they will not tax, not mandate, but fine you for breaking the law and do so without you having your day in court or a jury trial.

This was another test case to push the envelope of the dictatorial power the socialists have been pushing for years.

The rich and powerful people and businesses [or most of them]love Socialists and one man governments.

They are much cheaper and easier to bribe and control and they think their wealth will always protect them and usually the ultra rich they do.

If they get away with this ,and it looks like they will, wait till you see who they they bleed with this so called flat tax. Hint it will be the same e working stiff since time began.

They (both parties) are cut from the same mold and have shown us time and time again that they have no intention of reducing the size or intake of these kingdoms they have, or controlling their insatiable greedy spending and the country in financial trouble needs money.

The politicians we vote on in either of our two major dynasties no longer make decisions independent of the parties and that includes these judges .

The Party controls the candidates and both parties are controlled by the same rich and powerful, people bankers, corporations.

Those of you who believe Romney or any will do any thing about or be anything better than Obama any

Its been about what it always ends up being about when a nation is falling from inside because it is filled with corruption and greed in all its branches.

The rich and powerful doing the reaping, laughing and the rest of the dumb class doing the work and being too busy fighting each other for the crumbs off of their tables to realize once again despite six thousand years of historic warnings, a nation of people once again who have been going about saying it can't happen to us ,fall asleep and wake up and find themselves just about cooked, in a boiling pot on which the heat has been turned up very slowly.

Turn your back on God and His Word, you loose His blessings His benchmarks for choosing leaders and His guiding hand.

In His place you get Satan and those leaders whose character he molds.

44 posted on 06/28/2012 1:39:57 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: goodnesswins

And just like the court decision on the Arizona law, Mittens GETS IT WRONG AGAIN!

He should haved stopped at REPEAL!

It’s over. The GOP doesn’t have the spine to repeal anything because of 1) the pre-existing BS idea and 2) “kids” up to 26 staying of their parents plan BY LAW! Who says you can’t buy others insurance? So I don’t get that.

Romney/Boehner/McConnell are all talk and won’t do SQUAT!

The Republic is dead. The only thing left to do is move or collapse the system. Everyone quit their jobs and go on welfare. Get food stamps. Get on Medicaid. Get housing allowances and free utilities.

Atlas needs to shrug.


45 posted on 06/28/2012 1:45:29 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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To: CaptainK; All

“I’m sending Romney a contribution today.”

Why don’t you just send it directly to the Mormon “Prophet” in Salt Lake City and skip the middle man?

Romney is NOT the solution to Obama.

Seriously, you would be better served giving that money to REAL conservatives running for election or reelection to the House of Senate. That is the only viable way to stop Obama. Romney is not any better than Obama, except that he doesn’t have big ears.


46 posted on 06/28/2012 1:47:04 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: cuban leaf

Starve the beast AND eat it’s flesh. Go on the dole. Collapse the system.


47 posted on 06/28/2012 1:47:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Sola Veritas

I’ll send him another donation with your name in the memo


48 posted on 06/28/2012 6:42:04 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: mississippi red-neck

I moved to where I now live last summer in the spirit of Revelation 18:4.

If you get my drift.


49 posted on 06/28/2012 7:38:09 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Fledermaus

—Starve the beast AND eat it’s flesh. Go on the dole. Collapse the system.—

Yup.

I actually plan on cashing out my 401k’s while I’m at it.

They can’t get what’s in my mattress or buried without actually showing up at my door. It’ll cost ‘em more than it’s worth.


50 posted on 06/28/2012 7:40:39 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: CaptainK

“I’ll send him another donation with your name in the memo”

You are wasting your money foolish nave. IF you get the Magic Mormon elected....then you will see how foolish you were. He has “endorsed” jurists like Roberts. Like we really need more persons like that on the court. IF we can concentrate on the Senate now and in 2014, we can get conservatives that will BLOCK bad appointments...should Obama get reelected. However, they WILL NOT block bad Romney appointments out of “party loyalty.”

Voting for Romney is the intellectual equivalent of drinking Koolaid in South America under Jim Jones. Don’t do it friend. As horrific as more Obama time will be...a liberal republican could actually do more damage.

Anyway...drink the cyanide Koolaid...but you were warned.


51 posted on 06/28/2012 7:42:52 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: goodnesswins

Impeach.


52 posted on 06/28/2012 8:07:39 PM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: Sola Veritas

I’ll vote for whomever the Republican candidate is.

You can stay home and feel superior if Obama gets re-elected. Because you will have put him back in office.

I’ll drink my kooldaid while you sunbath on the banks of fantasy land, were we have an Obama president and a a veto proof Republican congress.


53 posted on 06/28/2012 8:10:54 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: cuban leaf
Sorry my reply took so long I had to leave a while after my post and I know exactly what you mean.

May His strong right arm uphold you and yours.

You won't believe this but since my retirement I have been able to spend a great deal of my time in prayer and Bible sstudy and was in the book of Revelation when I seen your post.

In the time of the end the anti- christ heads up a confrderacy of European and western nations that most likely includes this one in some form or another.

Certainly it will be but a shadow of its former self as we will be just another spoke in the big wheel as it is under judgment and in rapid decline and headed for an economic disaster that always follows the moral collapse of a nation.

We have meddled in His business in a way that he told us not to,we have turned our back on His teachings and pitched our tents toward Sodom and Gomorrah and He has now said enough, and given us over to ourselves.

The system of government the Anti- christ heads up is one based on world trade and is the commerical Babylon spoken of in Revelation and I believe, is the one for which the ground work is well on its way to being laid.

The other Babylon is the Apostate one world Church made up of many different types and denominations, that are left behind after the true church has been raptured.

Any way as you probably know if you study chapter 18 and other books of the bible you will see that this dominant commercial power called Babylon is the system headed by this monster which is based on world trade and gets its power from an unholy alliance made up of the rich and powerful elite, the powerful giant corporations, the political parties and the lawyers/lobbyists that provide the front men.

THen we have the Congressmen,judges and executive branch con men that prostitute themselves for careers that let them hold the purse and divide the yearly take from the people between the Party, their rich sponsers and their own pockets.

For those that are younger than I who want to see what is coming their way read chapter 18 in Rev and if you really want to know more read ,Isaiah 13,14,Jeremiah 50,51 and Rev.17,18 will give you a look at the future of the base city, the coming world government, its leader and what happens then and what is happening now.

A little taste for those that might not be as familar as we.

Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies Rev 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

54 posted on 06/29/2012 12:52:54 AM PDT by mississippi red-neck
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To: mississippi red-neck

I don’t know if you know this, but I lived in Seattle for 45 years, which was my entire adult life. I’m 58 now. Two weeks before the 2008 election I bought a small farm with a new house on it and actually moved there (here) in August of 2011.

My tag line here, for that entire time was that I am here in the spirit of Revelation 18:4.

I agree with pretty much everything you posted there. I believe we are wrong about a few things because I don’t believe prophesy is there to give a detailed future image, but more as a warning and peppered with enough info to prove itself just before or after an event happens. And, of course we are clearly told to watch for the signs.

Which is why you and I mostly agree.


55 posted on 06/29/2012 5:34:38 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: CaptainK; Admin Moderator

“You can stay home and feel superior if Obama gets re-elected. Because you will have put him back in office.”

I will NOT be staying at home. I have a good congressmen to get reelected and a bad Senator to vote out. I will NOT feel “superior” if Obama gets elected...I don’t want him in office. However, I don’t want Romney either. I will greive regardless of which wins. Either way, America loses.

Also, to NOT vote for Romney is NOT the same as voting for Obama. That is a lie and needs to stop being said on this forum. Many principled conservatives refuse to back Romney. Having “principles” that you will not violate in voting for Romney does NOT make you a de facto Obama supporter (even in a passive sense). The founder of this forum has repeatedly stated he WILL NOT vote for Romney....are you saying he is an Obama supporter???


56 posted on 06/29/2012 7:56:00 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: goodnesswins

Why didn’t Romney apply that sentiment to the healthcare system in Mass.? Oh, wait...


57 posted on 06/29/2012 8:03:25 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Liberty Experiment is over. All aspects of your life will now be MANDATED.)
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To: CaptainK; Admin Moderator

“My position has not and will not change. I won’t be voting for or supporting an abortionist/homosexualist statist for the presidency. No Romney vote here.”

A recent unedited Jim Robinson quote. I agree with him and take it a step further that I won’t support Romney because he spreads a false religious belief. That DOES NOT make me an Obama supporter anymore than it does Jim Robinson. Like I said, you lie when you say not voting for Romney is a vote for Obama!


58 posted on 06/29/2012 8:06:10 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Quit pinging us.


59 posted on 06/29/2012 8:17:27 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson; All

“Quit pinging us.”

Then don’t just sit there and let fools denigrate persons of character that refuse to back Romney. Refusing to vote for Romney, just as Jim Robinson has stated is where he stands, IS NOT a vote for Obama. I ping you because you allow them to go on unreprimanded. This isn’t just an insult to me, it is a direct insult to Jim Robinson.

Jim has said he won’t zot over an ABO position. Got it..that is clear. But should ABOs be able to insinuate or directly call a person who refuses to back Romney a de facto Obama supporter? I don’t think that is what he intended.

Zot me if you desire...but I’m going to keep pinging you guys UNTIL you stop ABO fanatics from calling those that don’t support Romney an Obama supporter. I won’t support a liberal liar, abortion enabler, homosexual enabler, and cultest monger like Romney for POTUS that was foisted on us by the GOPe. And I won’t stand for being called a supporter of the destestable Obama because I take that stand!

So...ban me...because I WILL NOT back down until you stop them from insulting principled conservatives. This forum is useless otherwise.


60 posted on 06/29/2012 9:54:15 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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