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Obama Administration Probably Guilty of Murdering Mexicans in "Fast and Furious" War on Mexico
Freeper Editorial ^ | 27 Jun 12 (Update) | Xzins

Posted on 06/27/2012 3:05:14 PM PDT by xzins

On October 11, 2011 Eric Holder broke the news that Iran had been engaged in a covert war against the United States, and had even sent an agent to the U.S. to involve Mexican drug cartels as accomplices in a plot to murder the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the United States.

What is truly amazing about this is that Eric Holder has been engaged in his own covert war against another nation...against Mexico and Mexicans for the past three years. In the bizarre world of Washington D.C., the Obama Administration was doing the same thing against the Mexican government that it accused Iran of doing against the United States. It has been arming Mexican drug cartels with thousands of highly lethal battlefield weapons. The cartels have been using those weapons to deadly effect against Mexican officials and Mexican citizens. Hundreds of Mexicans have been killed in cold blood with weapons intentionally provided to them by the Obama Administration.

As recently as 8 Oct 2011 the Los Angeles Times reported:

High-powered assault weapons illegally purchased under the ATF's Fast and Furious program in Phoenix ended up in a home belonging to the purported top Sinaloa cartel enforcer in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, whose organization was terrorizing that city with the worst violence in the Mexican drug wars.http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atf-guns-20111009,0,6431788.story

In addition to the blood spilled in Mexico, blood has also been spilled in the US. U.S. Border Agent, Brian Terry, murdered in a firefight against the Mexican cartel on the U.S. side of the border, has had the weapons used to kill him positively identified as being among those GIVEN to the drug cartels by the Obama Administration. In a conversation reported by CBS News, Terry’s death is callously dismissed as “collateral damage.” (See http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20109529-10391695.html)

While Eric Holder might plead "not guilty" to the above charges, the facts remain the same. If it is not murder and a covert war, the Obama Administration is left with only one dishonorable explanation: they could plead gross incompetence and hundreds of grossly negligent homicides.

The Obama Administration has been a major participant in hundreds of Mexicans being murdered. It has provided deadly arms to the Mexican government's number one public enemy, the blood-thirsty Mexican drug cartels. To date, Mexico has not filed charges in either the World Court or at the United Nations.

Will it do so? Mexico's attorney general, Marisela Morales, quoted in the Los Angeles Times said that:

deliberately letting weapons "walk" into Mexico ...would represent a "betrayal" of [her] country http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/19/world/la-fg-mexico-fast-furious-20110920

At this point, the investigation into the Obama Administration's covert war on Mexico has been hampered by obvious obstruction from Eric Holder, the U.S. Attorney General, a man whose incompetence has permitted this travesty to go on. Even now a contempt of Congress vote is being prepared against him. Additionally, President Obama's claim of executive privilege can only mean that the ultimate trail must lead to the top member(s) of the Executive Branch.

Morales, Mexico's attorney general, ...told The Times that she first learned about Fast and Furious from news reports. And as of last fall, she said, U.S. officials had not briefed her on the operation...nor have they apologized. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-fast-furious-20110920,0,6511144,full.story

"At no time ...In no way would we have allowed it, because it is an attack on the safety of Mexicans."

To repeat, Morales said that directing weapons into Mexico to be used against Mexican citizens and the Mexican government is "a betrayal of [her] country."

The Obama Administration owes more than it can ever repay to the families of Mexican murder victims and to the family of murdered US Border agent, Brian Terry. At the least, it could acknowledge some grave error and begin making reparations to those struck down in cold blood with U.S. provided weapons.

Even though a contempt of Congress citation is all the talk these days, due process should result in criminal charges. These will be small consolation for the murder victims of the Obama Administration’s covert war on Mexico.




TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; comtemptofcongress; fastandfurious; gunrunner; holder; obama
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1 posted on 06/27/2012 3:05:20 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

Let’s call it what it is. Planned genocide. No less.


2 posted on 06/27/2012 3:16:49 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: xzins
Even though a contempt of Congress citation is all the talk these days, due process should result in criminal charges.

I couldn't agree more. Well done, xzins.

3 posted on 06/27/2012 3:23:00 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: xzins
Any discussion of F&F MUST include viewing this 7 minute video by Bill Whittle. It SIZZLES. It gives me goose bumps every time I view it.

http://youtu.be/UFIpoL3jrfo

4 posted on 06/27/2012 3:24:16 PM PDT by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: xzins
What if Reagan ordered the FAA to deliberately crash a plane full of innocent Mexicans...?
5 posted on 06/27/2012 3:28:22 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: MestaMachine

When Obama begins talking how much he cares for Hispanics, then let him answer to killing innocent Mexicans by the hundreds.

If he’s pro-Hispanic, then the KKK was pro-black.

As you say, one could raise questions of racism, and given the obfuscation, it could cause an enquiring mind to wonder about genocide.


6 posted on 06/27/2012 3:33:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: jazusamo

Even as they now discuss this subject — which they wouldn’t in the past even acknowledge — the media carefully avoids speaking of the dead.

They won’t acknowledge the bloody remains of family after family, and they won’t show the emotion that they show even for mistreated animals.


7 posted on 06/27/2012 3:36:03 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
The Mexican deaths from Fast & Furious were not just an unintended collateral accident. F&F was a program designed to result in Mexican deaths - so that 'evil' US-sourced guns could be found at the crime scenes and US gun laws could be blamed for the carnage. Holder, Napolitano, Hillary and Obama and a host of their minions cooked this program up knowing that Mexicans would die - in fact, needing Mexicans to die for this scheme to work. The Obama administration was cynically willing to slaughter Hispanics to accomplish their political purposes. The only "botch" in the scheme was F&F guns turning up to get Americans killed too.
8 posted on 06/27/2012 3:37:26 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: xzins

One must ALSO wonder how much longer and how many more Mexicans WOULD have died. (or are STILL dying,) had this not come to light in the most heinous way possible...the murders of two of our own.


9 posted on 06/27/2012 3:37:54 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: xzins

Someone,who called our local radio talk show ,speculated that the reason Obama is pandering to the Mexicans is to soften the blow when they discover that he was responsible for lots of deaths due to F&F.


10 posted on 06/27/2012 3:38:40 PM PDT by surrey
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To: gaijin

Justice, gaigin.

There is a God, and He will eventually bring about justice, even if power-hungry politicians refuse to acknowledge dead bodies stacked in the streets.


11 posted on 06/27/2012 3:38:52 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
In order to excuse the Obama regime, Bob Beckel on "The Five" actually have the nerve to say that, "if the drug cartels didn't get the guns from F&F, they would have gotten them somewhere else!"

Mark

12 posted on 06/27/2012 3:43:14 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: xzins
Wars are fought over LESS things.

How would America feel if Mexico was openly supplying guns to gangs here in the United States to some how justify clamping down on Mexican citizens gun rights?

I think there would be a GREAT number of Americans rightfully looking to exact justice on Mexico and its government.

-SO-

On behalf of MOST of America I would like to extend a heart felt apology to Mexico and her citizens on behalf of a stupid, arrogant, lawless and utterly corrupt group of democrats in government that no longer represents the vast majority of their citizens any more. That the deaths of YOUR citizens was solely the responsibility of said criminal democrat government.

I know that this is of little solace to you but rest assured that we TRUE AMERICANS are working very hard to see to it that those responsible, up to and INCLUDING the pres__ent of America if necessary are brought to justice.

13 posted on 06/27/2012 3:43:53 PM PDT by bayliving (Freedom isn't free...)
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To: MestaMachine

Ricky and Racky were just killing the Mexicans that Americans were unwilling to kill themselves.


14 posted on 06/27/2012 3:44:32 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: MarkL
they would have gotten them somewhere else

In that case, drug dealers across the nation are all innocent.

15 posted on 06/27/2012 3:45:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
Great job!

Eric Holder is at war with gun owners' rights
March 20, 2012

Snip:
This week we've seen confirmation that the National Rifle Association has been right all along about President Obama's choice for attorney general to lead the Department of Justice.

Taken with Eric Holder's arguments at the Supreme Court, and Operation Fast and Furious, the picture emerges of an inveterate opponent of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. ...

When Holder was U.S. attorney for D.C. in 1995, he gave a speech to the Woman's National Democratic Club about firearms. He shockingly argued that "what we need to do is change the way in which people think about guns, especially young people, and make it something that's not cool, that it's not acceptable, it's not hip to carry a gun anymore, in the way in which we changed our attitude about cigarettes."

Holder added that he asked the District of Columbia's "school board to make a part of every day, some kind of anti-violence, anti-gun message. Every day, every school, at every level ... We need to do this every day of the week, and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way."
16 posted on 06/27/2012 3:46:25 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: xzins

Before this story broke, I remember that O and Holder were encouraging the Mexican government to file suit in American courts against US gun manufacturers.

About the time this story broke, you’ll also remember O making a big deal about US gun dealers reporting suspicious sales, and demanded yet another law requiring gun dealers to report these sales. Ignoring the fact that they were already required to report them, and in fact “did” report them in this case. ATF told them, don’t worry about it, its OK, make the sale.

Mexican cartel are using machine guns, rocket launchers, and hand grenades. You don’t buy those at Walmart.


17 posted on 06/27/2012 3:48:50 PM PDT by marron
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To: bayliving

Somehow I got connected to a criminal enterprise, the Obama Administration. Not that I voted for them, because I didn’t, but they are my government.

Because of that I humbly apologize for their hatred of Mexico and Mexicans, for the deaths they have caused, for the damage they have done to thousands of your citizens.


18 posted on 06/27/2012 3:49:46 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

The media sure is careful to keep the program’s Mexican death toll from hispanic voters.

Obama’s claims of ‘executive privilege’ probably involve damage to our foreign policy. He lied to the Meican government about this, and of course he lied to everyone in his Univision interview.


19 posted on 06/27/2012 3:49:57 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I believe that Holder, Napolitano, Hillary and Obama are up to their eyeballs in this effort to diminish gun owership rights here at home. And a few hundred deaths would do nothing to stop their evil pursuit of disarming Americans.


20 posted on 06/27/2012 3:52:50 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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