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The Black Hole Of Deflation
TMO ^ | 6-26-2012 | Julian DW Phillips

Posted on 06/26/2012 4:24:14 PM PDT by blam

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21 posted on 06/26/2012 7:59:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Southack

Wow, you’re a genuine keynesian kook.


22 posted on 06/26/2012 8:01:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You don’t know what “Keynesian” economics look like well-enough to argue one way or the other.

Sad.


23 posted on 06/26/2012 8:14:07 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: editor-surveyor

Just because we don’t support our nation’s current leader doesn’t mean no good can ever happen. I’ve had my best years in 2010, 2011 and 2012... years under a president I despise, who has sought to make me the enemy for running a profitable business.

I must be a Keynesian kook for noting that the housing market has taken a clear turn for the better, too?


24 posted on 06/26/2012 8:49:52 PM PDT by pianomikey (Raucous cannoneer for tepid Romney support!)
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To: palmer

ping for later read


25 posted on 06/26/2012 9:23:17 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: Paladin2
There is a lot of cash waiting for 0bama to be gone before it is spent/invested.

Absolutely. Somewhere in excess of $400 billion in the Private Equity world. Some corporations are just sitting on cash. But they aren't just going to throw money at deals the for sake of sparking an economy. The deals need to be there, and they need to be there at the right price.

What no one seems to be considering though is that the dynamics of consumption may have changed as some people have learned some hard lessons the past few years. I know that the spending habits of my family and many friends are not what they were five or six years ago.

26 posted on 06/26/2012 9:23:28 PM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: alloysteel

“Once these toxic mortgages are drained out of the system,...”

How long is that going to take? I’ve read in some places that housing prices may not recover for another 10 or 15 years.


27 posted on 06/26/2012 10:50:02 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: alloysteel
The effects of that boom were felt through most of the Eisenhower years (which had a couple of slowdowns of its own, but only for a year or two at a time).
In retrospect, that was kind of a “Golden Age”, though not recognized at the time.

You're not kidding. I grew up and entered the workforce then and now, in reminiscence, realize how fortunate I was.

28 posted on 06/27/2012 6:46:07 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Southack

Political control through debt structuring at its basic level.

Sad.


29 posted on 06/27/2012 11:08:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: pianomikey

>> “I must be a Keynesian kook for noting that the housing market has taken a clear turn for the better, too?” <<

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It has taken a turn for the ‘better’ if you are a broker, and need not worry about being able to sustain your income sufficiently to make the payments on the debt you’ve just incurred, through the coming crash.

But then, that kind of thinking is a big part of what got us into this trouble.


30 posted on 06/27/2012 11:42:56 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You are almost too stupid for words.


31 posted on 06/27/2012 12:32:07 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Political control through debt structuring at its basic level." -- editor-surveyor

Yet here is what I wrote that got you spouting Keyenisian nonsense:
Private Investment is up 10%. Web 3.0 is revolutionizing the online world. Fracking is increasing U.S. oil and natural gas production that is driving down gasoline and electricity costs.

Private investment. Not debt. Not government spending. None of what I wrote has *anything* to do with "Political control through debt structuring at its basic level."

You are completely batty. Insane and ignorant simultaneously.

Take your meds and go to sleep. You need large doses of both.

32 posted on 06/27/2012 12:35:15 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Yes Einstein, belief in sound economic policies is utterly stupid. You and you gal Moochelle should know.


33 posted on 06/27/2012 12:35:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You haven’t demonstrated an IQ that could grasp sound economics. Certainly not in this thread.


34 posted on 06/27/2012 12:36:55 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

You make Tim Geithner look brilliant.

Keep on Mr. Wikipedophile, go look it up now.


35 posted on 06/27/2012 1:48:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Southack

You really are too stupid to understand that all current “investment” is coming from monopoly money that is nothing but mass printed debt, to the level that our total tax revenue can’t even cover the service on the debt without running the presses?

Shut up idiot. All you do is read a few articles that you don’t even understand and post the propaganda here.


36 posted on 06/27/2012 1:54:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"all current “investment” is coming from monopoly money" -- editor-surveyor

Now there you go again, making things up. Come on, no one really believes that you have a data source to support your wild-eyed claim of monopoly money for every penny of private investment money such as the FPI, Web 3.0, and oilfield fracking that I mentioned above.

You are just making things up. This happens when you take the wrong doses of your meds, I suspect.

37 posted on 06/27/2012 4:59:32 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Paladin2

I also think there is a lot of money on the sideline watching and waitng to see what the Fed tax policy is going to be. If Odumbo get the increases in taxes he wants, the other shoe is going to drop.


38 posted on 06/27/2012 5:06:50 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Southack
I am not going to insult you, but your polyanna thinking around the economic future in conterintiutive to everything economic indicator out there. I did see your comment on housing. Anyone can cherry pick one bit of good economic news on any given day.

Why didn't you cite Germany's drop in credit rating instead? That has 100,000 times more impact on our future than your little shiny bit of joy

39 posted on 06/27/2012 5:13:45 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957

Germany is trivial to the U.S. economy.

In the U.S., Fixed Private Investment (FPI) is now up 10%.

Web 3.0 is revolutionizing the online world.

Fracking is increasing U.S. oil and natural gas production that is driving down gasoline and electricity costs.

Demand for U.S. manufactured goods, in pre-paid orders, is up...demand for Chinese imports is finally slacking off.

And home-buying is now at a 2-year high.

In other words, the Recovery has begun with investment and major tech revolutions.


40 posted on 06/27/2012 5:19:42 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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