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1 posted on 06/21/2012 2:45:29 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

So few characters allowed in title- I cant fit the BARF ALERT

This is the beliefs of Liberals at Daly Kos.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 2:47:16 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on their 2012 pick.)
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This is what happens when the Bush administration refuse to answer media LIES about their policies.

Cmon George - you're not above answering your critics.

3 posted on 06/21/2012 2:47:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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Sorry rats, no mention of ‘Fast and Furious’ in HR6028.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr6028/text


4 posted on 06/21/2012 2:48:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: NoLibZone

I’ll do my usual thing. Wait 24 hours to see how things fit into place, or not.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 2:49:14 PM PDT by syriacus (Obama Holder Napolitano conspiracy. 800,000 illegals become voters so swing states will swing Left.)
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To: NoLibZone

Project Gunrunner was an entirely different program, was considered a failure, and was discontinued. Fast and Furious is a whole different animal. Just the Kos Kids grasping at straws.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 2:49:33 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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H.R.6028 — Merida Initiative to Combat Illicit Narcotics and Reduce Organized Crime Authorization Act of 2008
Bill Text

110th Congress (2007-2008) H.R.6028.RH

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h6028/text

Its limited, and restricted to:

SEC. 113. ACTIVITIES SUPPORTED.

(a) In General- Activities that may be supported by assistance under section 112 include the following:

(1) COUNTERNARCOTICS AND COUNTERTRAFFICKING- To assist in building the capacity of law enforcement and security forces of Mexico to eradicate illicit narcotics trafficking and reduce trafficking-fueled violence, including along the United States-Mexico border, including assistance such as—

(A) radar and aerial surveillance equipment;

(B) land and maritime interdiction equipment and training, including—

(i) transport helicopters and night-operating capabilities;

(ii) surveillance platform planes; and

(iii) maintenance and training relating to maintenance of aircraft; and

(C) training of security and law enforcement units to plan and execute counternarcotics operations.

(2) PORT, AIRPORT, AND RELATED SECURITY- To assist in monitoring and controlling the United States-Mexico border and the border between Mexico and Central America to combat illicit narcotics trafficking, including assistance such as—

(A) computer infrastructure and equipment;

(B) secure communications networks; and

(C) nonintrusive monitoring technology.


7 posted on 06/21/2012 2:52:18 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on their 2012 pick.)
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SEC. 123. ACTIVITIES SUPPORTED.

Activities that may be supported by assistance under section 122 include the following:

(1) INSTITUTION BUILDING AND RULE OF LAW- To assist Mexico’s efforts to expand the rule of law and build the capacity, transparency, and trust in government institutions, including assistance such as—

(A) rule of law and systemic improvements in judicial and criminal justice sector institutions, including—

(i) courts management and prosecutorial capacity building;

(ii) prison reform activities, including those relating to anti-gang and anti-organized crime efforts;

(iii) anti-money laundering programs;

(iv) victim and witness protection and restitution; and

(v) promotion of transparent oral trials via training for the judicial sector;

(B) police professionalization, including—

(i) training regarding use of force;

(ii) human rights education and training;

(iii) training regarding evidence preservation and chain of custody; and

(iv) enhanced capacity to vet candidates;

(C) support for the Mexican Office of the Attorney General, including—

(i) judicial processes improvement and coordination;

(ii) enhancement of forensics capabilities;

(iii) data collection and analyses;

(iv) case tracking and management;

(v) financial intelligence functions; and

(vi) maintenance of data systems.

(2) ANTI-CORRUPTION, TRANSPARENCY, AND HUMAN RIGHTS- To assist law enforcement and court institutions in Mexico to develop mechanisms to ensure due process and proper oversight and to respond to citizen complaints, including assistance such as—

(A) enhancement of polygraph capability in the Mexican Police agency (SSP);

(B) support for greater transparency and accountability in the Mexican legal system, including—

(i) establishment of a center in the Mexican Office of the Attorney General for receipt of citizen complaints;

(ii) establishment of clerk of the court system to track cases and pretrial detentions;

(iii) reorganization of human and financial resources systems; and

(iv) equipping and training of criminal investigators; and

(C) promotion of human rights, including—

(i) support for human rights organizations, bar associations, and law schools; and

(ii) training for police, prosecutors, and corrections officers.

(3) PREVENTION- To assist in the prevention of individuals from participating in illicit narcotics-related violent activities, such as—

(A) establishment of programs that address domestic violence and increase school attendance rates; and

(B) expansion of intervention programs, including after-school programs and programs for at-risk and criminal involved youth.

(4) DEVELOPMENT- To assist in the development of areas where lack of jobs breeds illicit narcotics-related violence, including—

(A) expansion of alternative livelihood programs, including job creation programs and rural development programs and the provision of microenterprise development assistance under title VI of chapter 2 of part I of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2211 et seq.); and

(B) establishment of gang reeducation and training programs.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 2:53:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on their 2012 pick.)
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Here is the Gunruuner mention in the bill (it's all about enforcement and tracing serial numbers, nothing about shipping guns to drug cartels):

SEC. 402. REDUCTION OF SOUTHBOUND FLOW OF ILLEGAL WEAPONS.


11 posted on 06/21/2012 2:54:22 PM PDT by DBrow
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Funny how something which got no press outside of FOX suddenly has the Uber-Libs now doing damage control.
This must go all the way to the top for KOS to get their marching orders.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 2:54:57 PM PDT by Zathras
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(b) Project Gunrunner Initiative-

(1) IN GENERAL- The Attorney General shall, to the extent amounts are made available to carry out this subsection pursuant to paragraph (4), use such amounts for the Project Gunrunner initiative (hereafter in this subsection referred to as the ‘initiative’) of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to expand the resources provided to identify, investigate, and prosecute individuals involved in the trafficking of firearms across the United States-Mexico border.

(2) ACTIVITIES- In carrying out paragraph (1), the Attorney General shall—

(A) assign additional agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to the area of the United States adjacent to the United States-Mexico border to support the expansion of the initiative;

(B) establish not fewer than 1 initiative team in each State along the United States-Mexico border; and

(C) coordinate with the heads of other relevant federal law enforcement agencies and State and local law enforcement agencies to address firearms trafficking in a comprehensive manner.


14 posted on 06/21/2012 2:57:31 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on their 2012 pick.)
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Obama has violated this portion along with many others:

SEC. 502. METRICS AND OVERSIGHT MECHANISMS.

(a) Sense of Congress- It is the sense of Congress that—

(1) to successfully support building the capacity of recipient countries’ civilian security institutions, enhance the rule of law in recipient countries, and ensure the protection of human rights, the President should establish metrics and oversight mechanisms to track the effectiveness of activities undertaken pursuant to this Act;

(2) long-term solutions to Mexico and Central America’s security problems depend on strengthening and holding accountable civilian institutions;

(3) it is difficult to assess the impact of United States assistance towards these goals absent specific oversight and monitoring mechanisms; and

(4) the President, in developing metrics, should consult with Congress as well as the Government of Mexico and the Central American Integration System (SICA).

(b) Requirement- The President shall develop metrics to identify, track, and manage the progress of activities authorized pursuant to this Act and use these metrics to determine the allocation of resources for such activities.


15 posted on 06/21/2012 2:59:11 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on their 2012 pick.)
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This article is bullshit ~~~ walking!
obama and company perverted this op and used it for nefarious purposes resulting in the deaths of at LEAST 2 American agents and countless mexican nationals.

No way they should be allowed to get away with slandering Issa like this.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr6028

Section 401 -
Directs the President to report to the appropriate congressional committees concerning measures taken to reduce U.S. drug demand.
Section 402 -
Directs the Attorney General to: (1) expand resources for the Project Gunrunner initiative of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) to identify, investigate, and prosecute firearms trafficking across the U.S.- Mexico border; and (2) provide ATF agents, equipment, and training to assist Mexican law enforcement officers in combating firearms trafficking and other criminal enterprises. Authorizes FY2008-FY2010 appropriations.
Section 404 -
Directs the President to report to the appropriate congressional committees regarding measures taken to stop the flow of illegal precursor chemicals and bulk cash into Mexico


19 posted on 06/21/2012 3:06:16 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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Intellectual dishonesty, but to be expected.

Project started under Bush is not Fast & Furious.

Irresponsible to try to imply Obama merely extended what Bush started.

Bush didn't kill, 2 federal agents and hundreds of foreign personnel got killed by Obama/Holder & Co.

20 posted on 06/21/2012 3:13:13 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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MISCONCEPTIONS
22 posted on 06/21/2012 3:18:58 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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So, how many thousands of weapons were delivered to the Cartel while Bush was in the White House?


23 posted on 06/21/2012 3:19:41 PM PDT by marron
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If there was supporting evidence that this was started under Bush Holder would have ran something akin to the Berlin Airlift getting documents to congress.


25 posted on 06/21/2012 3:25:44 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The democratic party is the greatest cargo cult in history.)
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Here we go. No defense for what Justice and ATF did, so go after Issa. It’s hard to argue with unprincipled people. If this crap makes them feel good about themselves, fine, but just ignore them.


29 posted on 06/21/2012 3:35:31 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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My disgust with these unprincipled leftist weasels is complete.


30 posted on 06/21/2012 3:38:04 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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PGW and Merida were bad decisions...but not on the scope of Fast n Furious

Clearly, Obama is actively involved in Fast n Furious, and has made the decisions to do it. That is Statement of Fact. When he removes the Executive Priviledge on the documents, then he can prove me wrong

Always remember, that, the best policy towards Mexico is a sealed border and the deportation of all its illegals from the US. Anything else is trouble


31 posted on 06/21/2012 3:48:32 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When I said "close the borders", I did not mean the bookstore chain)
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PGW and Merida were bad decisions...but not on the scope of Fast n Furious

Clearly, Obama is actively involved in Fast n Furious, and has made the decisions to do it. That is Statement of Fact. When he removes the Executive Priviledge on the documents, then he can prove me wrong

Always remember, that, the best policy towards Mexico is a sealed border and the deportation of all its illegals from the US. Anything else is trouble


32 posted on 06/21/2012 3:48:48 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When I said "close the borders", I did not mean the bookstore chain)
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