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Mitt Romney's in it to win it
American Thinker ^ | 6/19/2012 | Ebben Raves

Posted on 06/19/2012 1:19:20 PM PDT by ebshumidors

Mitt Romney will beat President Obama in this fall's election, most likely by a substantial margin. There. I said it. I may have a plate full of hat in my future, but I doubt it.

Pundits will give you the usual reasons for a Romney victory, but it all boils down to two things: first, Romney took the time to build an organization and second, and most important, he wants to win. Tea Party patriots and constitutional conservatives would be smart to learn a lesson from this.

While many conservatives were swooning over the latest firebrand candidate to carry their cause, Romney was already running out the clock before the game even started. Since before the 2008 election, he has been steadily building a campaign Team, networking, collecting endorsements and raising money. He knew how the system worked and used it to his advantage. The Tea Party movement has only been in existence since 2009, and then made the mistake of not coalescing behind a single candidate early enough in the race to counter Romney. We swung for the fences and struck out. Team Romney took walks, stole bases, hit singles and scored runs. The lesson that needs to be taken from this is that the Tea Party must start building their bench right now in order to have one of their own win the presidency. Although there are some admired personalities, none of them possessed what it took to beat Romney.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/mitt_romneys.html#ixzz1yGxP38qC

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; obama; rinoromney; romney; romney4romneycare; romneycareromney; teaparty
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1 posted on 06/19/2012 1:19:27 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: ebshumidors

At this point in time Mitt has a lot more fight in him than McQueeg had. I like the way he is handling the press and not falling into their traps and the way he is taking it to Obama and not backing down.


2 posted on 06/19/2012 1:22:46 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: ebshumidors
Tea Party patriots and constitutional conservatives would be smart to learn a lesson from this.

So tired of this meme. The base voters can't win a presidential primary without a candidate. The organization is there in droves...see Wisconsin, See Dick Lugar's political carcas. See Senator Lee, Rubio and Johnson. See a big House majority. These were all built with tea party organization. This presidential primary, the tea party was there, but no candidate was able to capture it. Frankly, of the people running, we may be better off with Mitt the candidate. I don't know which one could have pulled this off...all were flawed one way or another politically.

3 posted on 06/19/2012 1:25:58 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ebshumidors

No flame. That’s a very good analysis of political reality. Nixon did much the same thing between 1964 and ‘68 and Mitt’s father was on the losing end of that deal.


4 posted on 06/19/2012 1:27:21 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Parley Baer

I do like the way he responded to the complaint about Obama Hecklers....in essence he said it is politics long standing and I’m not going to stand in their way if they want to heckle him.

McQueeg would have flipped like a Krystal burger....


5 posted on 06/19/2012 1:29:10 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ebshumidors

This thread is about the election...and this incredible ad by the Roman Catholic Church underlines each of the issues at stake in these fall elections. I urge each of you to watch it and pass it on to all your non-FReeper friends...

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd


6 posted on 06/19/2012 1:30:17 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: ebshumidors

I am optimistic that the Obamination will be booted.
Mitt was not my choice but I will back him & vote for him.
I believe that what is best for America is to remove Obama Hussein, vote in the best congressmen that we can, elect the best candidates in local & state elections, and then pursue the best strategies that we can from a position of strength.

I did not believe that McCain had a chance in H3ll.
Mitt appears to be running a far better campaign.


7 posted on 06/19/2012 1:31:09 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Parley Baer
As time goes on, I think it will become increasingly clear, the Romney organization will be a powerful, well financed, and well organized machine.

Obama's camp is divided and appears to be disorganized. Nothing has gone right for them this whole year. In 2008 he was propelled by outside forces, and didn't have to do much of anything but show up. Now, he has to paddle his own canoe and he is revealed as a mere punk.

I continue to believe with increasing confidence that the election is Romney's to lose, and that he won't lose.

8 posted on 06/19/2012 1:32:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ebshumidors
I'm inclined to agree with this piece. Romney, as the next President, is not encouraging. But I suppose I'll have to live with the fact that at least his judicial nominations are likely to be somewhat pro-American.

Also, if he can bring the demise of the old media, conservatism will have a chance to right our course in 2016, if we make it to 2016.

9 posted on 06/19/2012 1:32:47 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: ilgipper

I’d hate to put Romney up against a real candidate. His strength is the fact that Obama is so pathetic.


10 posted on 06/19/2012 1:34:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Gaffer

>McQueeg would have flipped like a Krystal burger..

Thats an insult to fast food everywhere!


11 posted on 06/19/2012 1:35:29 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Parley Baer
At this point in time Mitt has a lot more fight in him than McQueeg had.

That's my observation too. I truly thought, after Newt and Rick Santorum flamed out, the GOP intent was for Romney to gracefully lose the election but preserve the chance to win the Senate.

Well, if that was the GOP's intent, Romney's having nothing of it. He's outpacing Obama in fundraising and, with the exception of Obama's unconstitutional circumvention of immigration law last week, has been controlling the narrative.

Romney, while I'm still not a fan, has proven to be a far more formidible opponent with a penchant for the fight than Obama and his handlers ever dreamed in their worst nightmares. I have no doubt the Obama people were convinced their boy would cruise to reelection without breaking a sweat.

12 posted on 06/19/2012 1:38:41 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: bill1952

Even if mittens sat as a potted plant in the WH for 4 years, that would be a massive improvement over what we have now.

Obama has to go!


13 posted on 06/19/2012 1:48:05 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Parley Baer

Romney has wanted to be POTUS since his Dad’s bid failed in 68.

We can criticize his principles but not his fight.


14 posted on 06/19/2012 1:50:04 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: hinckley buzzard
There was a time when I said I would never, never vote for Romney. I guess never's not as long a time period as I thought.;-)

I believe Romney is going to trounce Obama for the reasons you mention and because Obama is an awful person and an awful candidate. I'd say he's an awful leader...but then he is in no way a leader.

Even Putin despises Obama!

In fact, Romney will beat Obama so roundly that the only votes Obama will get will be those of his people and the sympathy vote.

15 posted on 06/19/2012 1:52:37 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: ebshumidors

Still a long time to go before the election. If Obama is smart, they won’t try to depict Romney as a conservative, but will demonstrate that he is a pathological liar who agrees with Obama on every major issue. That is something easy to do, and that is probably why they wanted Romney as the GOP nominee to begin with.


16 posted on 06/19/2012 1:53:08 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: ebshumidors

No flame, just a few comments.

Obamalite is the Godfather of Obama”care,” which is the death knell for the USA. Obamalite’s only concession is that he will keep only the best parts of Obama”care.”

Obamalite in June is polling only a coin-flip ahead of the pathetic Obama.

Obamalite refuses to acknowledge that he has caused the Conservatives to sit at home on Election Day in November.

The second ballot in Tampa will get the Conservatives out to vote in November!

Obama has proven that the Democrats can easily be led to mimic the Feudal European Slave State.

Romney has proven that the RINOs will endorse anyone who promises to not rock their precious little “elect me” boat.

Step number one is to DUMP Romney at the Republican Convention.

Step number two is to choose a Nominee who will cut BASELINE Federal Spending.

Step number three is to take over control of the Republican Party.

Realistically, Romney is Obamalite, if elected he will not abolish Obama”care” or reduce Federal Spending, and will lose to Hillary of the “Hilly and Billy Show” in 2016.

Therefore, the time to DUMP Romney is in Tampa, 2012.

If we don’t do this in 2012, then we will either get Obama again, or have to complete steps 1, 2 & 3 in 2016.


17 posted on 06/19/2012 1:55:32 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: RoosterRedux

Romney should zip it for a while and wait to the last possible moment to choose a vp. Obama is screwing himself and the MSM is turning a tad our way. Even Clinton to touting Romney.


18 posted on 06/19/2012 1:56:59 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

I think this leak thing is really starting to hurt him. The media is really not giving obama cover in this as much as I thought they would.


19 posted on 06/19/2012 1:58:56 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Graewoulf

” If we don’t do this in 2012,then we will either get Obama again,or have to complete steps 1,2 & 3 in 2016”.

No remember libs and moderates are emotional. Great freeper idea but we need bummer out now.


20 posted on 06/19/2012 1:59:37 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Amazing ad put out by the Roman Catholic Church. The issues are laid out plainly and succinctly. I know Obama won the Catholic vote in ‘08 (how in the world???) but I firmly believe he’ll lose that voting bloc overwhelmingly this time around.

Hang tight patriots, November is coming.


21 posted on 06/19/2012 2:03:09 PM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: ebshumidors

“Mitt Romney will beat President Obama in this fall’s election, most likely by a substantial margin.”

I’ve said this now for a month. I think this is the truth.


22 posted on 06/19/2012 2:03:33 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: goseminoles

” - - - we need bummer out now.”

Thanks for making my point: At best, Primary Winner Obamalite in June is a coin-flip away from beating pathetic Obama in November.

Improve the odds by DUMPING Romney for a real Republican and win the next TWO elections.


23 posted on 06/19/2012 2:05:10 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: ebshumidors

Why isn’t he ahead by more than a couple of points?


24 posted on 06/19/2012 2:07:58 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: ebshumidors

This will only make Freepers sad.


25 posted on 06/19/2012 2:09:04 PM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: RoosterRedux
...the only votes Obama will get will be those of his people and the sympathy vote.

That's what he got in '08 to become POTUS.

26 posted on 06/19/2012 2:11:45 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ebshumidors
I don't fully agree with everything Mr. Raves states but overall, I think he gets it. It's no secret that Mitt Romney is not a conservative or the 'TEA party candidate'. However, I know all conservatives agree that Barack Obama simply must be removed from power and Mitt Romney and the GOP are the only realistic vehicle for accomplishing that goal. Fortunately, Romney is well organized and financed and yes, I believe that, unlike John McCain, Romney wants to be president, not simply be the GOP nominee, run a weak campaign and basically cede the election in October by praising Obama.

No, Romney won't govern as a hardcore conservative but his election will be a start to moving America back to fiscal sanity and stop the dangerous leftward drift. A conservative congress will be a huge help but Republican voters will have to start holding their Republican senators and Representatives to account and not allow them to revert to 'business as usual' (big government spending) once sent to Washington. Same with Romney. He'll have to be opposed if he starts acting like he's Bush and tries to expand government.

America doesn't need another 'compassionate conservative' but a president that respects conservative principles, the wishes of the people who elected him (for fiscal responsibility in government) and the constitutional principles that are the bedrock of this country and that have been sorely neglected by both parties in recent times. I believe Mitt Romney, for all his alleged faults and despite the sneering and grumbling from those who apparently keep hoping Ronald Reagan will be resurrected and run again, can be that president.

27 posted on 06/19/2012 2:13:07 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: cripplecreek
His strength is the fact that Obama is so pathetic.

Romney is the lesser pathetic and we need to get behind the lesser pathetic one....

28 posted on 06/19/2012 2:17:39 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ebshumidors

“......the mistake of not coalescing behind a single candidate early enough in the race to counter Romney.”

THAT is the only statement in the article that I agree with.

Romney will not win the race without the real conservative votes and so far, it doesn’t look like he’s going to get them.

If Romney becomes the president, it will be as a result of Obama beating himself...


29 posted on 06/19/2012 2:18:26 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: cripplecreek

Romney:

“I’m not 0bama!”

That’s enough for 2012.


30 posted on 06/19/2012 2:20:33 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Presidential Race is about the relative light reflectivity of your Socialist Slavemaster.)
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To: Graewoulf

Republicans wont vote a new candidate at the last minute. Wishful thinking. He needs to pick a conservate vp and we all hold on. That gives us 8, if Romney can stay off the golf course. It isn’t just the economy. All hell is brewing overseas. I don’t want Obama anywhere near it. Tswhtf soon.


31 posted on 06/19/2012 2:22:00 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: EGPWS
Romney is the lesser pathetic and we need to get behind the lesser pathetic one....

And pray he doesn't end up costing us for decades..
32 posted on 06/19/2012 2:22:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ebshumidors

Projections and forecasts like this are predicated on the expectation of a somewhat fair election.

Haven’t most of us learned by now that there is no such thing at the presidential level?

If Romney is going to win, he will have to build up a HUGE lead among legitimate voters to offset the tremendous amount of fraud that always boosts the democrat candidate.

The federal government is still funneling money to the labor unions and the other people who bring us the ACORN style vote fraud.

The Justice Department is still fighting honest people who are trying to clean up the voter rolls and reduce the number of dead people and illegals who vote.

Labor Unions and other groups are still running busloads of fraudulent voters from one precinct to another.


33 posted on 06/19/2012 2:24:35 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: EGPWS

But he also carried the “stupid independent” vote in the center...and that, plus a miserable performance by McCain, pushed him over the top.


34 posted on 06/19/2012 2:28:26 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: ebshumidors

Christians in droves will not vote for a baal worshiping cult leader as their President...And they will stand blameless before God for it.


35 posted on 06/19/2012 2:29:00 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Romney: “I’m not 0bama!”
That’s enough for 2012.

Obama won the 2008 election and was awarded a Nobel Peace Medal for not being George Bush.

Maybe Romney can win the 2012 election and be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize for not being Barack Obama.


36 posted on 06/19/2012 2:31:10 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: ebshumidors
Team Romney took walks, stole bases, hit singles and scored runs.

Team Romney bought the pennant and played in front of GOP-E umpires.

37 posted on 06/19/2012 2:31:42 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: ebshumidors

You know, I think we need someone who can cheat, lie, steal and deceive as good as obama. We need someone with a strong cold heart who can overlook 50 million aborted babies (in fact he was brave and strong enough to enact more of it in his state) He put abortifacients in his healthcare bill and no one complained until obama did it. He did something obama never did; he forced the Catholic Church to close adoption services in MA because they would not allow gays to adopt. Catholic Charties started doing that in 1903 and Romney shut down that racket after 109 years. He was able to stand up to those pesky parents who wanted to opt out their 5 yr olds from brainwashing and indoctrination into the gay lifestyle. He is able say one thing and do something else and blame it on others.

We need someone who knows politics well enough to burn Sarah and HER FAMILY in 2008, so Obama could win the election. After all, it’s all about him and if he can’t win, no republican can win, and he hypnotized many people to forget and forgive him. In fact they act like it never happened. Obama should have thanked him for doing his dirty work; maybe he did. He’s so clever he can to enact gay marriage and blame it on the judge.

One thing that will really help him beat Obama (after fairly and squarely winning the primary) is having the establishment behind him. They chose him before the first primary and we ALL want what the eletist want, right? Because of him, they were able to make lots of back room deals with k street lobbiest and promise our money away.

He got gun owners to back him, even when he backed the brady bill and banned some guns. Most of all, he’s convinced people who said they are pro life, pro family, for smaller government, against raising taxes, against cap and trade, against global warming, against tarp......he convinced them he is conservative. In fact he is seriously conservative.

Oh and I almost forgot. Those people who are angry about obamcare, gave him a pass on creating romneycare. Facts don’t matter, only the perception that romney and the gop want you to see. Maybe it’s because he’s a god and can control people’s thoughts. Wow. IF he wins, he will be able to be all things to all people. He’s kinda like Houdini. What a guy. Maybe he can win without the base. NOT.


38 posted on 06/19/2012 2:36:00 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: GlockThe Vote
I think the media are becoming displeased with obama, and critical of his shortcomings, out of fear. They fear that Hussein the Usurper will blow it big time, and they will all look like the mendacious feather merchants they really are.
39 posted on 06/19/2012 2:39:30 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: goseminoles
I don't believe Romney is saying anything about VP. It is all pure media masturbation. I agree, and I think Romney shows it, that as long as obama is stumbling and fumbling around, the best thing is to go about your own campaign and let the media make things worse for the Usurper by trying to defend him.
40 posted on 06/19/2012 2:43:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ebshumidors
A vote for cult leader Romney mocks and tempts God.

Exodus 20:3
“You shall have no other gods before Me.

Isaiah 46:
8 “Remember this, and show yourselves men; Recall to mind, O you transgressors.
9 Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me,

Exodus 23:13
“And in all that I have said to you, be circumspect and make no mention of the name of other gods, nor let it be heard from your mouth.

Deuteronomy 6:14
You shall not go after other gods, the gods of the peoples who are all around you

Breakaway LDS sect of Mormonism's "Book of Abraham" Chapter 4:

1 And then the Lord said: Let us go down. And they went down at the beginning, and they, that is the Gods, organized and formed the heavens and the earth.

2 And the earth, after it was formed, was empty and desolate, because they had not formed anything but the earth; and darkness reigned upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of the Gods was brooding upon the face of the waters.

3 And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light; and there was light.

4 And they (the Gods) comprehended the light, for it was bright; and they divided the light, or caused it to be divided, from the darkness.

41 posted on 06/19/2012 2:45:31 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: Kharis13
Hope you are right. There are something like 60 million Catholics in this country-- that's a mighty big constituency to alienate and spit upon.
42 posted on 06/19/2012 2:46:34 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ebshumidors

Milt Romney IS THE BEST because he supports TARP,
and he supports the global warming hoax,
and he supports big government and he supports statism,
and he supports SHARIA and he supports ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE.
And he supports Democrats and Socialists for Judges,
and he suppports DEATH PANELS.

YES INDEEDY:

Let’s hear it for the greatest RINO ever: Milt Romney.


43 posted on 06/19/2012 2:47:17 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ebshumidors
Romney took the time to build an organization and second, and most important, he wants to win. Tea Party patriots and constitutional conservatives would be smart to learn a lesson from this.

I agree.

Like Rush has been saying, Romney's campaign is NOT the McIgnorant campaign. McIgnorant was slow to respond, really didn't want to win, and when the enemy was attacked by allies, McIgnorant retreated and apologized. In a word, he was a pussy.

Romney, for all the brill cream and suit and tie look he exudes, realizes Obamugabe is not going to go quietly...and Romney is willing to let Trump be Trump, Tea Partiers be Tea Partiers, and will use his war chest to battle the Kenyan Communist tooth and nail.

I believe, for the first time since 1980, that we have a Republican candidate who WANTS to defeat the Demonrat, and if that means getting a little mud flung, bring it on.

44 posted on 06/19/2012 3:04:49 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SENTINEL

christians voted for obama. But they won’t vote for mitt? I don’t think I need to see your response.


45 posted on 06/19/2012 3:05:18 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Linda Frances

Indeed. Romney isn’t getting any vote from me. I’d rather take my chances with majorities in the House and Senate to counter an Obama second term which, if countered correctly at every turn, could very well turn out to be less destructive than a Romney presidency with an approving majority in the Legislative branch.

We’re in a post constitutional era for the foreseeable future anyway until the Tea Party can field a candidate worthy of restoring the Constitution.

No Romney No Way


46 posted on 06/19/2012 3:13:19 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Didn’t watch the video, I’ve got a good idea what they said though.. BUT everyone, and I mean everyone, at least those who asked for and listened to Gods guidance, knew who Obama was in 08.

Why would the church change horses in the middle of the stream? It’s precisely the very same horse with the same goals?

Methinks they didn’t ask for, or follow, Gods guidance in 08.


47 posted on 06/19/2012 3:20:36 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Gator113
Romney will not win the race without the real conservative votes and so far, it doesn’t look like he’s going to get them.

If Romney becomes the president, it will be as a result of Obama beating himself...

If Romney squeaks out a victory despite exit polling that showed conservatives stayed home, conservatism is finished. No GOP politician will ever feel the need to pander to conservatives again.

Those who plan on sitting this one out, voting for Virgil Goode or some other such nonsense might want to think about this.

48 posted on 06/19/2012 3:52:05 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Kharis13

That ad DOES NOT SAY: VOTE ROMNEY. There is no issue or criticism in that ad that does not apply every bit as much to the Massachusetts trashbag as to Obozo. Give the pom poms a rest.


49 posted on 06/19/2012 4:04:47 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: ebshumidors
Well, we all know Fox News will die trying. Fully expect Rupert Murdoch to get out his mini skirt and pom poms and cheer for Romney. It has always been clear Hannity and the gang are in the tank for Romney.
50 posted on 06/19/2012 4:08:56 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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