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Want to Live Longer? Move to NYC
Yahoo News ^ | June 13, 2012 | Natalie Wolchover (LiveScience.com)

Posted on 06/14/2012 1:08:31 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

While life expectancy in many parts of the United States is dropping, it has increased by 10 years in Manhattan since 1987. Researchers largely attribute that rise — the fastest in the nation — to a crackdown by the New York City health department on unhealthy behaviors.

Manhattanites can now expect to live to the ripe old age of 82, and the average life expectancy across all five New York City boroughs is 80.6 years. That's three years beyond the national average, and a striking turnaround since the city's low point in 1990, when life expectancy there trailed the U.S. average by three years.

The numbers come from researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Heath Metrics and Evaluation, who recently estimated the life expectancies in all 3,147 independent American cities and counties each year from 1987 through 2009. Even with New York's success, the IHME team found life expectancy in the country as a whole lengthened just 1.7 years per decade, a slower pace of progress than in the world's most long-lived countries. (The United States ranks 50th in that regard, according to the CIA World Fact Book.)

So, why is New York doing so well, and how can other U.S. cities get their residents' longevities up to speed? [Infographic: A Day in the Life of the Average American]

According to the British medical journal The Lancet, most gains made during the 1990s aren't replicable elsewhere. The city ramped up its life expectancy by reining in homicide rates and HIV/AIDS-related mortality, both of which had weighed down the average at the beginning of the decade.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bans; biggovernment; cradle2grave; health; liberalism; marxism; nannystate; newyorkcity
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1 posted on 06/14/2012 1:08:44 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 06/14/2012 1:10:05 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That’s not living.


3 posted on 06/14/2012 1:10:46 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m surprised that the author wasn’t Mike Bloomberg.


4 posted on 06/14/2012 1:12:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No, no, NO. It’s not Bloombird’s “health” measures.

First of all, a lot of old people come here or stay here, because it’s easy to have a life without a car, and there are LOTS of services and discounts. Easier to live here independently and alone than it is other places.

Second, we have the BEST doctors and hospitals in the world.


5 posted on 06/14/2012 1:15:02 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Do they really live longer or does it just seem so?


6 posted on 06/14/2012 1:26:34 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: firebrand

As long as you don’t ride the subway after 6pm, youre probably correct.


7 posted on 06/14/2012 1:30:51 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Conveniently timed info.


8 posted on 06/14/2012 1:31:29 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: firebrand
First of all, a lot of old people come here or stay here, because it’s easy to have a life without a car, and there are LOTS of services and discounts. Easier to live here independently and alone than it is other places.

Aren't the elderly easy prey for the thug element that grip New York? Mass transit is a breeding ground for that type as witnessed by Bernard Goetz who was accosted by what we now euphemistically call the "Amish". I'm old (just shy of 70) and I wouldn't visit much less live in New York City because of the criminals and the leftists (but I repeat myself) swarming over the Five Boroughs, maybe not as much in Staten Island.

9 posted on 06/14/2012 1:31:38 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
These people are statistically and demographically ignorant.

When your population aborts or doesn't bother to have children, the mean, median, and average age of death of your population will rise. It doesn't mean your people are living longer. It means your culture is dying.

God once put this curse on a people. New Yorkers? They're more sophisticated than that. They're imposing it on themselves.

10 posted on 06/14/2012 1:50:53 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The longer we live, the more we cost. So the nanny state costs taxpayers more than they would otherwise have to shell out. Cheaper to let us buy large soft drinks and eat salt!


11 posted on 06/14/2012 2:19:49 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>>>Researchers largely attribute that rise — the fastest in the nation — to a crackdown by the New York City health department on unhealthy behaviors.... The city ramped up its life expectancy by reining in homicide rates and HIV/AIDS-related mortality, both of which had weighed down the average at the beginning of the decade.<<<

Isn’t it cool the way that the writer can’t even maintain his premise for four paragraphs?


12 posted on 06/14/2012 2:19:58 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The health department has, for example, banned trans fats, prohibited smoking in public spaces and hiked taxes on cigarettes. It has also rolled out hundreds of miles of new bicycle lanes, mandated the use of calorie labels on menus in chain restaurants and plastered posters up in subways with information about the risks of obesity and the benefits of preventive health services.

LOL. All this has only happened in the last few years but it has already raised the life expectancy of the city by 10 years. Amazing.
13 posted on 06/14/2012 2:20:37 AM PDT by microgood
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To: firebrand

Since life expectancy is an average, something that has helped (since the time of Giuliani ) is good policing, which means that NYC has a lower murder rate, even among young thugs, than other cities.


14 posted on 06/14/2012 2:47:47 AM PDT by livius
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This article is just illogical.

the old New Yorkers I know, and knew, soem of who live to about 100, grew up without health insurance, Social Security and other govt. handouts. They had a retirement and widowhood fund.

They watched what they ate, didn’t over drink or smoke.

They supported their local doctor who took care of them, not thriving on their illnesses. One aunt told me they bought the doctor a car every few years, as needed.

There is absolutely no way they were told how to eat by anyone but a caring family member or friend, ever.

Never mind the other stupid statements in this “article”.


15 posted on 06/14/2012 2:50:26 AM PDT by stanne
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To: JudyinCanada

My great grandmother, who lived in the Bronx until the age of 82 did not cost taxpayers any more money than anyone else did. She and her family paid their own and each others’ med expenses.

They hated the idea of govt. handouts, citing FDR as a destroyer.

they saw ahead to this mess. They took care of themselves the best they could, not wanting to be a burden on the family.

Now there is no shame in not taking care of oneself, the gevt. wants to do it, but now the govt doesn’t know how to take on the role of preventive care taker.

Bloomberg is trying to attract people to the City who will give him money to take care of the takers. This is lame and ineffective.


16 posted on 06/14/2012 2:58:29 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If so, the longevity in New York comes at a serious decrease in the quality of life.


17 posted on 06/14/2012 3:10:09 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Long may our land be bright with freedom's holy light.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If so, the longevity in New York comes at a serious decrease in the quality of life.


18 posted on 06/14/2012 3:11:11 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Long may our land be bright with freedom's holy light.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If so, the longevity in New York comes at a serious decrease in the quality of life.


19 posted on 06/14/2012 3:11:10 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Long may our land be bright with freedom's holy light.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People in NYC walk a lot and because they aren’t driving cars much, there aren’t many deaths by car accident. They have a large Hispanic population and for some reason Hispanic immigrants (self-selected, happy optimists?) live longer nationwide.

That Bloomberg’s bike lanes have helped is a laughable prospect and it seems awfully quick for his smoking ban to make a measurable difference.

Between Manhattan and the boroughs, there’s a higher incident of skinny, highly educated white people in the former and fatter, less educated black people in the latter.


20 posted on 06/14/2012 3:13:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: firebrand

Natalie is a scientific illiterate. Of course it’s the demographics of old people choosing to live in an oldster-convenient place, not actually people living longer just because they live in NYC. What an idiot.


21 posted on 06/14/2012 3:14:16 AM PDT by samtheman (If we want Obamugabe out, we must vote him out.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is a complete crock of shiite. Every decadent thing one can think of is performed in NYC in spades. The obvious reason for the longevity is the affluence of a large segment of the populace that can afford anything they want. And, more power to ‘em...Lies, statistics and damn lies....


22 posted on 06/14/2012 3:52:47 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
... to a crackdown by the New York City health department on unhealthy behaviors.

The connotation of crackdown befits the police state mentality of Bloomberg. Didn't Bloomberg recently say something to the effect that it was government's purpose to take care of the health of its people. Use of the possessive pronoun to describe the relationship of government to people is commonplace with liberals. Perhaps one day the health police will walk people on leashes to make sure they get their exercise. The benefits of living in Bloomberg's Dog Kennel just mount with every idea he imposes.

The absence of scientific objectivity from this article is not surprising because it is a propaganda piece. If we would all be good little pets, we could all live a few years longer.

23 posted on 06/14/2012 3:54:19 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: samtheman
"Natalie is a scientific illiterate."

Manhattan below 110th Street is one of the wealthiest areas in the United States, with a per capita income above $100,000. (The rest of NYC is a fraction of that. NYC's overall median is less than New York State's median.)

Rich people (everywhere, not just in NYC) live longer than poor people. For many of the same reasons that they are rich people, and not poor people. They make better use of the information that is widely available to them.

One can live very well in Manhattan, but it takes a lot of money! That's why most in the middle need to commute in from the suburbs.

24 posted on 06/14/2012 4:02:06 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well, I do want to live longer.
But not in NYC.

Hey, I was born in NY, and grew up upstate, have seen almost all of it.

Finger Lakes, Niagara Falls, the Adirondacks, Thousand Islands, NYC, Longggg Giland,,,

New York is shaped like a foot, and NYC is the heel!


25 posted on 06/14/2012 4:02:17 AM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: firebrand
First of all, a lot of old people come here or stay here, because it’s easy to have a life without a car,

And something like 100 people/day die in car accidents in this country so NYC is going to below average in that category.

26 posted on 06/14/2012 4:13:38 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

people don’t live longer in NYC...

they’re just kept on the voting rolls a few years after they die


27 posted on 06/14/2012 4:21:36 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Lying grifters are so predictable... we will now see a deluge of articles promoting NY nazi-ism. The same template used for gloBULL warming.

LLS

28 posted on 06/14/2012 4:29:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Having lived in Manhattan myself for 8 years:

You pretty much walk to everything and climb a lot of stairs. Those two things alone really make a difference. You don’t see a lot of very overweight people.

For those who mentioned subways after 6:00pm, etc., mugging, etc. - the city’s crime rate is much lower than the other major cities. That stereotype went out a long time ago. I live in Boca Raton now and I wouldn’t dream of going to Miami at night.

The rest is probably statistical noise. It certainly has nothing to do with the nanny Bloomberg initiatives.


29 posted on 06/14/2012 4:32:33 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: firebrand
Second, we have the BEST doctors and hospitals in the world.

Exactly. This has more to do with access to cutting edge medical technology than banning "sugary drinks."

30 posted on 06/14/2012 4:49:38 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Mayor Bloomberg's neighbors are all smart and all wealthy by most standards, are mostly thin or slightly overweight, don't smoke, get plenty of exercise by walking, and control their "easily controlled" mortality risks like lipids and hypertension. They would be as likely to want to drink a 64-ounce sugared drink as to want to lick the sidewalk at Times Square.

The mistake that Bloomberg and the rest of the nannies make is transforming the conservative advice of "you shouldn't do that!" to "you can't do that!" (Well, of course you can do that; it may be awkward or illegal, it may be a bad idea, but you still can drink 64 ounces of soda.)

31 posted on 06/14/2012 4:51:21 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

May as well attribute it to rent control. Those old folks ain’t giving up their $130 month apartment.


32 posted on 06/14/2012 6:02:21 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: firebrand

I just got back from six days in NYC. Fell in love with it!

Six days is not enough to see everything!

And yet, even the cabbies said they loved NY, but wish they lived somewhere else.


33 posted on 06/14/2012 7:11:19 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 06/14/2012 7:18:12 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: re_nortex
Aren't the elderly easy prey for the thug element that grip New York?

Contrary to popular belief, the "thug element" does not "grip New York." New York has one of the lowest, if not the lowest, crime rates of any large city. Even that number is exaggerated by some very rough neighborhoods (Brownsville, East New York, Hunts Point, etc.) that skew the crime numbers. Most of NYC is extremely safe, even at night.

Mass transit is a breeding ground for that type as witnessed by Bernard Goetz who was accosted by what we now euphemistically call the "Amish".

The Bernard Goetz shooting occurred nearly 30 years ago. Times have changed. I regularly have to work late and often take the subway late at night, and I've never encountered (or witnessed) a problem.

I'm old (just shy of 70) and I wouldn't visit much less live in New York City because of the criminals and the leftists (but I repeat myself) swarming over the Five Boroughs, maybe not as much in Staten Island.

I happen to think you're missing out, it's a pretty good city, though it's not for everyone and you certainly have to have a thick skin, politlcally (for instance, where I live, every local, state and federal representative is a Dem). I also think you're mistaken that criminals are "swarming over the Five Boroughs" (incidentally, there are some really rough parts of Staten Island as well)

35 posted on 06/14/2012 7:41:03 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Having worked in lower Manhattan and mid-town years ago, I can see how visitors would enjoy Manhattan. But it's not all there is to NYC. The drudge of commuting everyday and the privilege of paying a city income tax and sales tax does wear on the glamor. I'll visit (Manhattan) but I would never choose to live or work there.
36 posted on 06/14/2012 7:44:26 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Gabz

You won’t actually live longer if you move to NYC...but it’ll sure FEEL like it, LOL!

*BA-DUMP-DUMP* Thanks! I’ll be here all week. Try the veal and don’t forget to tip your Waitress! ;)


37 posted on 06/14/2012 8:53:30 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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Well howdy, look who the cat drug in!!!!!!


38 posted on 06/14/2012 9:01:24 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Wait until Bloomberg makes running with scissors a felony offense.

No one will ever die in NYC.

39 posted on 06/14/2012 9:28:08 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Glad you enjoyed it. Sometimes I look around me and I still can’t believe I live here. It still has all its magic, plus now the special feeling of being home.


40 posted on 06/14/2012 10:32:03 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Actually, I would prefer just to be dead rather than living in that socialist cesspit.


41 posted on 06/14/2012 11:00:50 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I went to NYC a couple of years ago and it was disgusting. Your eyes start burning as you take the escalator into the subway, the city is filthy, and they have some smoke-like substance coming up through the manholes. I don’t see how the life expectancy could possibly be high there... also note that anyone with any kind of means that works there moves out to the suburbs. I could never live there, I’d rather live in DC. DC in comparison is clean, subway system is immaculate, air is breathable, and the people are friendly enough where at least you don’t leave wanting to shoot someone. Just a personal observation.


42 posted on 06/15/2012 5:30:56 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: re_nortex
A thug element grips NYC? The subway is a breeding ground for them? Criminals swarming?

I suggest you stay at home cupcake and keep watching your "Warriors" VHS tape.

43 posted on 06/15/2012 5:35:49 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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A thug element grips NYC? The subway is a breeding ground for them? Criminals swarming?

I suggest you stay at home cupcake and keep watching your "Warriors" VHS tape.

Add to the list of New York City traits: The condescending rudeness of the denizens of that liberal dystopia.

44 posted on 06/15/2012 9:15:05 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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AAAWWW, did I hurt your feelings?


45 posted on 06/15/2012 9:42:02 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911
AAAWWW, did I hurt your feelings?

I rest my case.

It's a shame that a self-identified Conservative such as yourself continues to reside in a region where liberalism rules and union goons are triumphant. I can fully understand what you've become as a native New Yorker. It's very sad. May Almighty God richly bless you and restore a sense of genuine humility and authentic Christian kindness to your clearly troubled soul.

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. -- Philippians 4:13 

46 posted on 06/15/2012 9:52:12 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

nope, what’s sad is you throwing all kinds of falsehoods (iow - lies) out then getting upset when called on them...and then hiding behind a self-serving proclomation of Christian piety...that’s sad.


47 posted on 06/15/2012 10:24:28 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

There’s no need to escalate this any further, wtc911. So, in all sincerity, I really do wish you well and rest assured that you’ll be added to my daily prayer list. I’m sure there is much we can agree on topics other than the city where you happen to reside.


48 posted on 06/15/2012 10:36:50 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

Bless your heart.


49 posted on 06/15/2012 11:53:10 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

Well, sir, thank you very much and continued good wishes. If more Conservatives like you comprised the New York City populace, I’m sure it’d be a much better place.


50 posted on 06/15/2012 12:17:48 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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