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Michigan House Votes Overwhelmingly to Repeal Permit to-Purchase and Registration(June 13,2012)
nraila.org ^ | 13 June, 2012 | NRA-ILA

Posted on 06/13/2012 3:29:53 PM PDT by marktwain

Today, the Michigan House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly to repeal the state handgun “permit-to-purchase” and registration requirements. House Bill 5225 passed in the state House by a 74 to 36 vote. HB 5225 would repeal the bureaucratic state “permit-to-purchase” handguns and instead utilize the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System. House Bill 5498 and House Bill 5499 also passed in the state House along with HB 5225. These three bills now go to the state Senate where they will be assigned to the appropriate committees.

HB 5225, sponsored by state Representative Paul Opsommer (R-93), which became obsolete when the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) took effect in 1998. Under the current state process, gun buyers must apply with their local law enforcement agency and pass a written test before being authorized to buy a handgun. This “permit” is valid for only one gun and it expires after ten days. Since 1998, federal law has required a national criminal records check for the purchase of any firearm, from any gun dealer, in every state.

Some of the key points of HB 5225 as amended are:

* Repeal the state requirement to seek police permission to purchase a firearm by traveling to a local police station and obtaining a permit to purchase.

* Repeal the requirement to register a completely legally purchased and owned firearm by a law-abiding citizen to be registered with the government through the police.

* Adopt the use of the federally-funded National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

* Default to the federal standard of prohibited persons and each purchase would still require a background check.

* Cut Michigan’s costs by using the federally-administered national instant background check system and eliminate wasted man-hours of tracking lawful gun owners in Michigan.

The NRA has been working diligently to repeal this antiquated, costly and unnecessary obstacle for gun owners and has coordinated with several state Representatives to produce the new language for HB 5225. HB 5498, sponsored by state Representative Richard LeBlanc (D-18), provides for the legal penalties relating to firearms and other weapons. HB 5499, sponsored by state Representative Ray Franz (R-101), clarifies the regulations regarding the sale of firearms to “prohibited persons” and makes them consistent with federal standards. Leg-Ribbon-Contact

Thank you to NRA members who contacted their state Representative in support of HB 5225. If your Representative voted in favor of the bill, please be sure to thank them for defending your rights. Please begin contacting you state Senator and urge him or her to support HB 5225. To find your state Senator’s contact information, please click here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; constitution; gun; gunowner; gunowners; gunrights; guns; hb5225; hb5498; hb5499; housebill5225; mi; michigan; paulopsommer; rayfranz; registration; richardleblanc; righttobeararms; secondamendment
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To: Tax-chick

“I’ll stop in and get the limit”

Speaking of limits, I know it’s a bit late, but congratulations on the new addition.

...the limit part is sarc. I am grateful there are those who impose no limit on legacy, or the Biblical, “Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth”...


51 posted on 06/14/2012 2:25:23 AM PDT by wita
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To: cripplecreek

Where’s the like button to that statement...bump!

Gonna have to borrow it too. Do you mind?


52 posted on 06/14/2012 3:13:46 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: Sioux-san
My dad was a plankwalkerowner on the DD-546 Brown. Didn't know destroyers could do 75 from vertical. Rumor had it the Captain steered into a typhoon, as it was the only way he could get shore leave for his men.

The lookout saw the vessel pass,
She had the lines of a twenty one hundred class,
He'd seen one once in a history book,
He shivered twice and then he shook,

And phoned the bridge. "A vessel, Sir",
A ghost ship by the looks of her,
The skipper paled and then he said,
"It's the damned Brown...full speed ahead

If she catches you, she'll pass the curse
And then forever, for ill or worse,
We'll sail the oceans far and wide,
Through storm and gale and raging tide."

Dropping astern the ghost ship sent
A message and this is how it went,
"Do you have for us any mail
Or orders saying how long we'll sail?"
The only answer the ship could give
To the poor old brown was "Negative."

The Captain said. "She sailed the seas
In arctic cold and tropic breeze,
From Tokyo harbor to Hong Kong isle.
She's sailed a hundred million miles
from Subic Bay to Korean shores,
She's sailed a hundred years or more."

It happened back in Forty-Six,
Old Five Forty Six, got in such a fix.
No one can say just what occurred
Scuttle butt is all i've heard.

Nobody knows if witches brew
Put this curse on the old Brown's crew,
Or if someone in DesPac
Forgot to send her back

53 posted on 06/14/2012 4:11:34 AM PDT by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2012.)
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To: wita

They’ve done Great work here in Florida over the years. I agree they do some strange things sometimes.


54 posted on 06/14/2012 4:31:44 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: freedomlover
I have been on this site for quite some time now and I have never known such poor boatmen as are Freepers.

fortunately for me, i'm not a fan of boats, so i have never lost mine in a boating accident.
unfortunately, i'm divorced, and had to sell all of my guns to pay for the danged lawyer.
55 posted on 06/14/2012 4:49:28 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Sioux-san
the only thing is I still jerk a little when I hear all the BANGs

suggestion to help with that: get a revolver, load random chambers, spin the cylinder and close. if you don't know which chamber(s) are empty, you'll see how bad you jerk, and will start to control it.
56 posted on 06/14/2012 4:55:18 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: DoughtyOne

I did that for my daughters.
They are 12 and 14.

Shooting lessons and gun safety class.
Along with the “Stopping assault” from Krav Maga, they are sweet but deadly.


57 posted on 06/14/2012 5:53:14 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: wita

There’s a natural limit - one of these days, we just won’t have any more ;-).

And thank you - Kathleen is a wonderful fat pink pet!


58 posted on 06/14/2012 6:23:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Don't be so scared ... it's just a baby!)
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To: marktwain

Michigan leads the way: in the 1960s with riots and white flight, in the 1980s with unemployment and industrial flight, and now in the 2010s, with stupid liberal law rollbacks.


59 posted on 06/14/2012 6:51:38 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: absolootezer0

Thanks - I had trouble cocking a revolver because of my carpal tunnel issues, but will try that at the range with a rental.


60 posted on 06/14/2012 7:05:42 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: nerdwithagun
He's been a pleasant surprise on social issues, even signing pro-life bills.

I don't like his spending views on bridges or his pension tax.

61 posted on 06/14/2012 7:09:43 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: sima_yi
It strikes me as odd that Michigan requires a permit to purchase a handgun, yet at the same time is a “shall issue” state.

It's an old relic from the 1920's that's still hung around. The permit system was passed when the black population was increasing in Michigan during the great migration.

Shall Issue passed in 2000.

62 posted on 06/14/2012 7:12:04 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: arrogantsob
It is because of such as this that Obama will lose Michigan. This is a slap in the Left’s face.

I would think it more like a punch in the gut.

63 posted on 06/14/2012 7:15:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Darren McCarty

That’s what I thought might be the explanation. Thanks for the info!


64 posted on 06/14/2012 7:16:45 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: patton
What joke?

shhh

65 posted on 06/14/2012 7:25:47 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: marktwain

We win another one.

New Jersey...you’re next.


66 posted on 06/14/2012 8:32:13 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: marktwain
the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System

And, there you have it. “Shall not be infringed” still means bupkis.

67 posted on 06/14/2012 9:20:12 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: newgeezer; All
And, there you have it. “Shall not be infringed” still means bupkis.

A good incremental step would be to remove rifles and shotguns from the instant check requirements.

It took 75 years to get here. I hope we can restore the rights in only a couple of decades.

68 posted on 06/14/2012 9:30:52 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: patton
I am afraid of the dang things, myself.

Me too. Many people are killed or injured even while cleaning them. That's why I let my son clean my guns. :)

69 posted on 06/14/2012 10:11:46 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: wita

You and I have about the same view of the NRA.

It’s sad, but I don’t support it. It’s not really the defender of gun rights it pretends to be. And when the Dems demonize it, I kind of laugh.

One thing you’ve got to give the Libs credit for, they file suits against everyone that disagrees with them at all. They just bury folks, groups, states, voters, in legal paperwork.

Our guys tiptoe out once in a while and timidly file a suit. Real dedication there...


70 posted on 06/14/2012 2:17:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: netmilsmom

That’s great. I don’t like it that we live in that kind of world, but your kids are prepared. Excellent!


71 posted on 06/14/2012 2:19:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: marktwain

Michigan bump


72 posted on 06/14/2012 8:27:30 PM PDT by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt 'Etch-A-Sketch' Rmoney)
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To: patton

“I tell you, I own no guns. They all gost lost, somwhere...perhaps a canoo accident? Yeah, that’s the ticket. A canoo accident.

Canu? Canuo? I don’t even know how to spell it.”

Same thing happened to me...only in my case it was a rowboat. Because I can spell rowboat.

No, seriously. It really happened that way! Honest!


73 posted on 06/14/2012 8:49:16 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: nerdwithagun
What do you think about the announcement to build another bridge to Canada without the consent of the legislature or the people.
74 posted on 06/15/2012 8:57:43 AM PDT by smithandwesson76subgun (full auto fun)
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To: smithandwesson76subgun

Mixed. I’ll give you that it is a good idea to be wary of any large project. Snyder is saying that it won’t cost Michiganders anything and the opposition is saying it will cost a ton and it is kind of murky which side is right.

On the other hand A) Not all issues are directly voted on by people. B) Isn’t the guy who is making the biggest stink the owner of the other bridge, the competition?


75 posted on 06/15/2012 5:12:31 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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