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Navy’s Green Fleet Runs Into Fiscal Storm (Algae Based Bio-Fuels Cost 4X More Than Petroleum Fuels)
San Diego U-T ^ | June 9, 2012 | Jeanette Steele

Posted on 06/10/2012 7:45:27 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Navy’s green fleet runs into fiscal storm

Demo still on for next month, includes San Diego ship

Republicans in Congress are blocking the Navy’s march toward a future in which jets and ships run on biofuels, saying the “green” most in question is whether the United States has the money, with a shrinking military budget, to invest in a pricey fuel experiment.

The Navy will demonstrate its “great green fleet” concept next month, a toe in the water toward easing the country away from dependence on unfriendly foreign oil. But opposition in Congress could push the effort onto the rocks after that.

Both houses of Congress last month put language in the 2013 defense bill that would block the Pentagon from buying biofuels if they cost more than traditional petroleum.

The vote split mostly along party lines, with Republicans, including San Diego County Rep. Duncan Hunter, saying that proposed massive cuts to defense spending leave no room for anything but essentials.

“We’ll need to learn to do much more with much less. Experimenting with biofuels at such a significant cost to taxpayers will not put the military on better footing or increase effectiveness, next to other investments that are much higher on the priority list,” said Joe Kasper, Hunter’s spokesman.

The Navy, which sees its green initiative as a strategic move away from reliance on expensive Persian Gulf oil, spent $13.7 million on fuel made from used cooking oil and algae, blended with petroleum, for its upcoming green fleet voyage on July 18 and 19.

It was the biggest alternative fuel purchase ever for the U.S. government — 200,000 gallons of jet fuel and 700,000 gallons of ship diesel.

But it might also be the most expensive, costing nearly four times as much as traditional petroleum.

(Excerpt) Read more at utsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algae; biofuel; biofuels; cronycapitalism; governmentwaste; green; greenenergy; greenpower; junkscience; liberals; military; navy; obamanation; obamanomics; obamunism; scam; usnavy
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... The cost of the biofuels calculated out at $15.25 a gallon in the November 2011 purchase, said Thomas Hicks, the Navy’s deputy assistant secretary for energy.

Regular marine diesel and jet fuel purchased by the Pentagon around the same time cost just less than $4 a gallon, according to the Defense Logistics Agency’s energy division.

1 posted on 06/10/2012 7:45:48 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

2 posted on 06/10/2012 7:52:02 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: DogByte6RER

There is absolutely no reason to use biofuels at this point in time. There may never be.

More libtard feel-good policies run amok.


3 posted on 06/10/2012 7:55:43 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: DogByte6RER

The budget is tight lets run the fleet on unicorn flatulence its only a trillion a gallon.


4 posted on 06/10/2012 8:01:36 PM PDT by omega4179 ( el 0bama comio un perro)
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To: DogByte6RER

So the obvious solution... artificially raise the price of fossil fuels to higher than the cost of this bio-nuts crap (and maybe throw even more government subsidies at the bio-crap).


5 posted on 06/10/2012 8:01:40 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


6 posted on 06/10/2012 8:01:57 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: DogByte6RER

Add this to the list of things for a new President to do day 1

- Fire anyone at State involved in Law of Sea Treaty
- Fire anyone at State involved in promoting “gay pride” events at overseas embassies
- Fire anyone at D.O.D. involved in promoting the use of algae fuels, beyond R&D.


7 posted on 06/10/2012 8:02:37 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: DogByte6RER


8 posted on 06/10/2012 8:03:15 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: DogByte6RER

It may cost even more when you consider that the energy output per kilogram is probably a lot less with a biofuel. What is the cost for the same amount of energy supplied via gasoline for instance?


9 posted on 06/10/2012 8:12:28 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: DogByte6RER
If only they inflated their Tires as Lord Obama instructed them, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Which reminds me, did anyone catch the gushing Leon Panneta story on 60 Minutes tonight? He's the best Defense Secretary ever!

They should use this overpriced goo in his Government issued Private Jet and make him pay for it personally.

10 posted on 06/10/2012 8:32:58 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: DogByte6RER

It’s a small price to pay for saving the earth.

Ships that don’t require speed can revert back to sail power.


11 posted on 06/10/2012 8:47:18 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: DogByte6RER

Actually..the cost is even more than what they paid. The delivery was $15 a gallon..it consisted of 50% conventional fuel at $4 a gallon and 50% biofuel..about $26 per gallon..blended at $15. They probably were selling the biofuel at a loss so it gets worse still.


12 posted on 06/10/2012 9:42:30 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: DogByte6RER

Actually..the cost is even more than what they paid. The delivery was $15 a gallon..it consisted of 50% conventional fuel at $4 a gallon and 50% biofuel..about $26 per gallon..blended at $15. They probably were selling the biofuel at a loss so it gets worse still.


13 posted on 06/10/2012 9:42:30 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: 43north
Perhaps the Navy can just buy back Naval Petroleum Reseerve #1?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elk_Hills_Oil_Field

Another genius move from Clinton...

14 posted on 06/10/2012 10:14:23 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: DogByte6RER

These people are thinking with the thing they are sitting on.


15 posted on 06/10/2012 10:14:55 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Military says yes sir to the Obama appointees. We’ll try your idiotic liberal ideas.


16 posted on 06/10/2012 10:17:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: DogByte6RER
a toe in the water toward easing the country away from dependence on unfriendly foreign oil

Here's an idea - we close the EPA, jail the environmentalists (or send them to Europe) and drill for our own oil.

That will "easing the country away from dependence on unfriendly foreign oil" just as well.

17 posted on 06/11/2012 1:38:05 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! No Obama, No Way, No How!)
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To: smokingfrog

Don’t give them any ideas.


18 posted on 06/11/2012 1:51:53 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Just wait until the next maintenance report is released revealing that the engines need to be completely replaced due to unusual wear given the use of the new, untested fuel.


19 posted on 06/11/2012 4:50:07 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: grobdriver

Its not just the EPA, but the Department of Energy, and the Department of Agriculture that are co-conspirators pushing for biofuels. The push for biofuels from the USDA was seen as necessary to gain additional funding through increased “relevance” of agricultural research. Seems that there was a diminishing amount of useful scientific research that was coming out of the USDA ARS and biofuels research was one means of obtaining massive infusion of money in a (then) politically popular area. The problem now has become how to continue the charade once the poor energy conversion of biofuels became more widely known. Its not just algae, but grasses and other cellulosic feedstocks for ethanol production. The taxpayers are getting fleeced.


20 posted on 06/11/2012 4:57:59 AM PDT by rusty millet
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To: rusty millet

Thanks for explaining the situation in #20. When I first heard of the Navy using biofuels, I thought, wtf?


21 posted on 06/11/2012 5:12:24 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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OBAMA THE BIOFOOL



Obama replaces $4/gallon petroleum fuel:


US NAVY $44/gallon BIOFOOL
US AIR FORCE $59/gallon BIOFOOL




22 posted on 07/16/2012 9:13:09 AM PDT by devolve (-------------- ------- no servers - no intelligence ----------- ---------------------)
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