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NYC Principal Bans 'God Bless the USA' at Kindergarten Graduation, Bieber's 'Baby' OK
News Buster.org ^ | June 10, 2012 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 06/10/2012 5:59:35 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: rhubarbk

Apparently the song offends her “culture”.


41 posted on 06/11/2012 6:44:45 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

They learned more about USA Geography from the lyrics of God Bless the USA than they did all year in Kindergarten.


42 posted on 06/11/2012 6:53:12 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Kaslin

That is the grade school my father went to starting in the 4th grade in 1921. If he were alive today, he would not believe it.


43 posted on 06/11/2012 6:57:25 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: the scotsman

“Greenwood’s is banal to the point of inducing vomit.”

It’s personal and heart-feld for Greenwood — written about what his grandparents dealt with to pick themselves up after losing everything. And I think the chorus is more pithy than “God Bless America” — which is a wonderful song, too.

The best, IMHO, are the last verse of the “Star Spangled Banner” and this verse from “America The Beautiful”.

O beautiful for heroes proved In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country loved,
And mercy more than life!
America! America! May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev’ry gain divine!

I think this bitch principal is a racist before she’s a JW. I’ve worked with Jehovah’s Witnesses before. They’ve always stuck with their beliefs, but were subtle about it, not preachy, and respectful of others’ beliefs. This woman needs to get a dose of reality — maybe standing in an unemployment line.


44 posted on 06/11/2012 7:08:27 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Kaslin
Update: NYC Schools Chancellor Dennis Walcott is standing behind her decision


45 posted on 06/11/2012 7:14:13 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: doug from upland
Reviews of her by teachers. Just amazing.

Not amazing. Either 1's or 10's, not much in-between. In other words, if you're part of her clique, she's golden. If you're not in her group, she's poison. I can guess the criteria for being part of her in-group.

46 posted on 06/11/2012 7:17:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Kaslin

Not a country fan, but my dislike is simply because I think its rubbish. The lyrics would embarrass a 14 year old trying to write their first pop song, the tune is bland.
Listen to Ray Charles or Kathleen Smith, then listen to Greenwood. Sorry, but I think its pablum. And that you have great tunes a million miles better. Simply because its patriotic dosent make it great or even good.

(I KNOW, our modern national anthem in Scotland as opposed to Scotland the Brave is a second rate folk tune that I detest)

As to the Springsteen track, I am not a huge fan of his either (although I think his early albums are great), and I do like the track. The problem, rather famously, was and is that the air-pumping nature of the tune obscures the famously cynical lyrics. There was bemusement in the UK when it became a national anthem for the US circa 1984.


47 posted on 06/11/2012 8:43:58 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: Kaslin

Typical leftist aka progressive god hater BS!


48 posted on 06/11/2012 10:01:17 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: doug from upland
I read all the teachers' reviews of this principal, and it's amazing how bimodally-distributed her remarks are: she is either a saint laboring in the salt mines of old-school, careerist, racist white teachers (a lot of whom are Jewish, one review mentions -- but then, this is Brooklyn, whaddayawant?), or else she is the acolyte of Lord Moloch come to invent new miseries for slaving teacherdom.

I rather imagine the admin higher-ups are on this problem by now for a year or more, given the sharp cleavage apparent in the teacher ranks. Time they found out what is really going on here.

49 posted on 06/11/2012 2:31:42 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: the scotsman
There was bemusement in the UK when it became a national anthem for the US circa 1984.

Complete disconnect between the lyrics and the tune, the former as you say are reflections of a young man who's sorry for himself and his dead friends, whereas the music is uplifting, even triumphant. Split personality, perhaps, in the composer who, if he intended to counterpoint his tune with his down lyrics, misjudged the times and his audience.

50 posted on 06/11/2012 2:41:44 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

Just changed my ringback to that song.....sounds great!!!!


51 posted on 06/11/2012 2:43:12 PM PDT by geege
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To: geege

Which one? “God bless the USA”, or Bieber’s “Baby”?


52 posted on 06/11/2012 3:12:19 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

GB the USA of course(:


53 posted on 06/11/2012 3:15:52 PM PDT by geege
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To: the scotsman

You can not compare Ray Charles with Lee Greenwood. They are both completely different singers. It’s like you are comparing Apples to Oranges. I am not familiar with Kathleen Smith, I thought at first you meant Kate Smith, but I don’t think so


54 posted on 06/11/2012 5:48:43 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
From your linked source, (there's also a 2011 newspaper article link floating around among the sources),

In their Sept. 8, 2010, findings, the investigators concluded: “By deliberately differentiating herself, a black Jehovah’s Witness, and the previous principal, white and Jewish, in the context of a mandatory staff meeting addressing rumors and discussing hiring and upcoming changes in the school, Principal Hawkins offended multiple staff members.”

One, why is this still going on almost two years later? There was an investigation after her first year as principal, and they found against her.

Two, this "sensitivity training" is PC bulltwaddle no matter who gets "sent" ...... and judging by results, it did damn-all to get to and fix the real problem(s).

Three, note that this woman became principal in the year The Won took office ... <speculating> perhaps her much-testified-to big, fat attitude had something to do with that wondrous, unifying, post-racial event. </spec>

This quote in your source article by a complaining teacher was rather curious, and I wonder what the hell could be behind that? Keeping in mind that the speaker is a) a degreed female New York teacher, and therefore almost certifiably a hardcore Dim, and b) on top of that, a lower-level union official, which doubles-down the probability of her Dimliness.

It sounds as if certain people she's referring to in the educracy have a case of good-school envy and are out to "prove" something, by levelling the field through positive (not to say "affirmative") action:

Still, Giasemis doesn’t heap all the blame on Hawkins. “It’s the DOE’s doing,” said Giasemis. “They want to break the schools one school at a time.”

Now, what did she mean by that?

<OT>Just btw, chase a link and see what one rating teacher had to say about the principal of the Abraham Lincoln H.S. in the same district. Edna Cohen isn't the only school with a problem. </OT>

55 posted on 06/11/2012 7:29:05 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

1—I was talking about the passion and beauty of someone like a Ray Charles or a Kate Smith signing a great patriotic song, as opposed to someone like Greenwood, who frankly sounds like a standard singer. Perhaps because he is singing lyrics that that are imo as trite, banal as they come.

When a Charles or a Smith sings, you hear the beauty of the song and the lyrics magnified. Greenwood signing cant disguise the trite lyrics and workmanlike nature of the song. I just dont ‘get’ the love for it. I get the love of country, but you have so much better in terms of songs.

Its like us having Scotland the Brave or Amazing Grace, but preferring ‘Donald, Where’s Your Troosers?’. Or the English having Elgar’s Nimrod or Land of Hope and Glory, but preferring ‘Knees Up Mother Brown’....

2-I was. I got her name wrong.

As I said, sorry, but I think its a mediocre song. And that being patriotic dosent make it good. And it isnt unpatriotic to think so. If that were the case, God Save The Queen and Flower of Scotland wouldnt be the dirges they are. And thinking so dosent make me any less of a Scottish/British patriot. If anything, it makes me MORE.

As blind patriotism is no patriotism at all.


56 posted on 06/12/2012 4:12:29 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: TNCMAXQ

That kid’s face is everywhere. And he’s not much of a singer,either.

‘God Bless the USA’ makes me cry whenever I hear it.


57 posted on 06/29/2012 2:44:55 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (It's hurricane season! Yay!)
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To: Kaslin
I don't know but whenever I'm at a game and the National Anthem is sung I get choked up and look down; I'm embarrassed because I don't want others to see me in tears. I know I shouldn't but I get so choked up that I can't even finish singing with everyone else.
58 posted on 06/29/2012 2:49:07 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (It's hurricane season! Yay!)
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To: Boogieman

Our Founding Fathers would be disgusted with the way things are going. :(


59 posted on 06/29/2012 2:50:55 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (It's hurricane season! Yay!)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

There is no need to be embarrassed when you get chocked up. It shows that you love the country


60 posted on 06/29/2012 4:42:51 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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