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What do historians really think of Obama?
FoxNews.com ^ | 6/8/2012 | Edward Klein

Posted on 06/09/2012 4:18:56 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

“There’s no doubt that Obama has turned out to be a major enigma and disappointment,” the historian told me. “He waged such a brilliant campaign, first against Hillary Clinton in the primaries, and then against John McCain in the general election. For a long time, I found it hard to understand why he couldn’t translate his political savvy into effective governance.

“But I think I know the answer now,” he continued. “Since the beginning of his administration, Obama hasn't been able to capture the public's imagination and inspire people to follow him. Vision isn't enough in a president. Great presidents not only have to enunciate their vision; they must lead by example and inspiration. Franklin Roosevelt spoke to the individual. He and Ronald Reagan had the ability to make each American feel that the president cared deeply and personally about them.

“That quality has been lacking in Obama. People don’t feel that he’s on their side. Obama doesn't connect. He doesn't have the answers. The irony is that he was supposed to be such a brilliant orator. But, in fact, he’s turned out to be a failure as a communicator."

If the verdict of this historian is correct, and Barack Obama’s fundamental failure as president is his inability to connect with people, he is in far more serious trouble than most people realize as he seeks a mandate for a second term in office. Or, as this historian put it: “I wouldn’t bet the ranch on his getting reelected.”

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1 posted on 06/09/2012 4:19:00 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

IMO, zero started out as a moderate, while campaigning, then immediately moved to the far left after elected.


2 posted on 06/09/2012 4:23:28 AM PDT by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: RoosterRedux

The bigger question is what the hell is wrong with the people of this country in electing this fraud without question


3 posted on 06/09/2012 4:31:44 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: RoosterRedux

His inability to connect with people has much to do with his personality and more to do with his “Vision.”

It is the wholesale rejection of his socialism and anti-capitalism.

His personality brands him a cipher. His character is suspect since he has lied many, many times through his books, his speeches, his narrative about himself.

It will take years and more objective and competent historians to unravel this projection of an empty suit and whatever chimera the DNC and the Hollywood creators imposed on this country.

The only thing we can do is vote and hope that this simulacrum of a president, this creation of advertising and
media is voted out before he does incalculable damage to the US.


4 posted on 06/09/2012 4:41:44 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: ronnie raygun; All
Here's a link to the Hannity interview with Ed Klein...VIDEO LINK.

Very interesting!

5 posted on 06/09/2012 4:42:32 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Sow the wind...reap the whirlwind!)
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To: RoosterRedux

He’s not one of us.


6 posted on 06/09/2012 4:44:02 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: RoosterRedux
He waged such a brilliant campaign...this cannard is really annoying. The guy ran a "brilliant" campaign ONLY because he was a fictitional character of the corrupt MSM.
7 posted on 06/09/2012 4:46:52 AM PDT by Obadiah (2008: Hope & Change -- 2012: Fear & Destruction)
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To: RoosterRedux
OMG!! ALL freepers need to read the whole story!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!

I wouldn't bet a bottle of ranch DRESSING that he will be reelected. What an elite EGOTIST he is!

8 posted on 06/09/2012 4:50:43 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: RoosterRedux
“He waged such a brilliant campaign, first against Hillary Clinton in the primaries, and then against John McCain in the general election. For a long time, I found it hard to understand why he couldn’t translate his political savvy into effective governance.

Unless Obama somehow engineered the 2008 world financial crisis, I don't think history will show his campaign against McCain was "brilliant", except in comparison to McCain's.

McCain was barely pretending to make a feeble attempt to win. Obama's failure at governance is not at all "hard to understand". As Gertrude Stein said, "There is no there there". We will see just how "brilliant" Zero's 2012 campaign looks against a campaign run by people who actually want to win.

9 posted on 06/09/2012 4:50:53 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: RoosterRedux

“historians” are not above political opinions and biases. David Maraniss is a historian, and he has written a tome that purports to be a biography of Obama. Yet he left out much of what Obama tries to hide about his past. And that he hides it.

That s like writing the history of the 20th century without mentioning the World Wars.


10 posted on 06/09/2012 4:55:34 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: duckman
IMO, zero started out as a moderate, while campaigning, then immediately moved to the far left after elected.

All the Commies on the Left (and RINOS "on the Right") do this.

11 posted on 06/09/2012 4:57:06 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: OpusatFR

Great post. I am hoping to live long enough to read the great, shocking page-turner TRUE biography of Obama, and to tell people, some of us knew all this before Americans first elected this Historic President.


12 posted on 06/09/2012 4:58:10 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Sooth2222
We will see just how "brilliant" Zero's 2012 campaign looks against a campaign run by people who actually want to win.

OK, who would that be?

13 posted on 06/09/2012 4:58:22 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: Sooth2222

I’m not sure McCain even voted for himself in that voting booth.

Being the nominee was all he wanted.


14 posted on 06/09/2012 4:59:31 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: RoosterRedux

Worst ever at/of/in history. Done.


15 posted on 06/09/2012 5:01:22 AM PDT by albie
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To: RoosterRedux

Worst ever at/of/in history. Done.


16 posted on 06/09/2012 5:01:45 AM PDT by albie
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To: RoosterRedux
Having studied and observed leadership in both public and private venues for close to fifty years; it is difficult for me to conceive of a person less prepared, by education and experience, for the role he faced. It is like watching my five-year-old grandson play with a grenade.
17 posted on 06/09/2012 5:07:44 AM PDT by Makana
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To: RoosterRedux
For a long time, I found it hard to understand why he couldn’t translate his political savvy into effective governance.

Putting it bluntly, this historian's thesis is based on a faulty premise. Obama's ineffective governance is not based on his lack of popularity, it's based on incompetence.

A socialist approach to the economy will fail. If we all held hands and wished really hard, a socialist approach to the economy will still fail.

18 posted on 06/09/2012 5:08:17 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: RoosterRedux

Great link
Thanks


19 posted on 06/09/2012 5:08:17 AM PDT by Leo58 (Those who cheer you today will curse you tomorrow, the only thing that endures is character.)
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To: RoosterRedux

He’s not anyone’s side but his own.


20 posted on 06/09/2012 5:09:52 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Obadiah

“The guy ran a “brilliant” campaign ONLY because he was a fictitional character of the corrupt MSM.”

That, and it looks good by comparison with McCains flaccid . . . I don’t know what to call it. It is hard to really call it an effort. Sarah Palin’s joke about the styrofoam columns hinted at what could have been done agains the lil’ Lightworker.


21 posted on 06/09/2012 5:13:41 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Makana

LOL!!!

When obama comes on the tv now I just can’t stop laughing

It’s gotten to the point where the laughter is s hard it hurts.


22 posted on 06/09/2012 5:14:57 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: RoosterRedux
“He waged such a brilliant campaign, first against Hillary Clinton in the primaries, and then against John McCain in the general election. For a long time, I found it hard to understand why he couldn’t translate his political savvy into effective governance.

Brilliant as defined as "MSM covers up every thing "
23 posted on 06/09/2012 5:18:39 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: RoosterRedux

“He waged such a brilliant campaign, first against Hillary Clinton in the primaries, and then against John McCain in the general election. For a long time, I found it hard to understand why he couldn’t translate his political savvy into effective governance.


My opinion and belief is that he had such damaging information on Hillary and John McCain that both of the them fought only hard enough to say they had and then lost with “dignity”.

Effective Governance on the other hand relies on the support and acquiescence of the governed and that he didn’t completely have, no matter what the MSM tried to tell the nation.


24 posted on 06/09/2012 5:19:41 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Obadiah
The guy ran a "brilliant" campaign ONLY because he was a fictitional character of the corrupt MSM.

Well put.

25 posted on 06/09/2012 5:20:10 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Terrific article. Go read the whole thing.

nobama: A better example of the Peter Principle you won’t find. And the kicker is: nobama hasn’t a clue, yet his ego and narcissism boost him to the top of the list.

IMHO, his biggest problem is lack of experience. Then he went and exacerbated that problem by surrounding himself with people that have the same problem.


26 posted on 06/09/2012 5:22:14 AM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: ronnie raygun

Really.
The broader and more historically significant aspect is the
dummying(sp)down of America and loss of what was known as the American Spirit, Kids can’t play tag, can’t resolve schoolyard disputes with a simple fight, get default medicated for ADD, are taught BS PC self esteem diversity, get trophies for mediocrity, and receive condoms from the gov’t before they are taught what the government is.


27 posted on 06/09/2012 5:22:23 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: RoosterRedux

I believe I qualify as an “historian.” PhD and all that.

“Historians” don’t deal with current events; that’s the business of political science specialists.

Historians can give their opinions as citizens, but not as “historians,” who deal with the past, the more distant the better.

The headline is logically fallible.

/By the way, my opinion is that the Black Messiah is just another corporate puppet, ruled by the Big Money. As if all of Washington and every State house. Money talks. It’s always been this way, going back to the dawn of government.


28 posted on 06/09/2012 5:24:50 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: duckman

No, it was the media that portrayed him as a moderate. He was just vague and tried to avoid letting anyone know who he really was, and the media obliged. No moderate would hang with all those Chicago leftists for 20 years, or say he wanted “fundamentally tranform” America, while not answering “Into what?”.

The historian in question still doesn’t have a clue.


29 posted on 06/09/2012 5:27:01 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: RoosterRedux
Obama hasn't been able to capture the public's imagination and inspire people to follow him.

That is (fortunately) because he's always heading to the golf course, and those of us who produce for a living cannot follow his leisure lifestyle.

30 posted on 06/09/2012 5:32:40 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: upchuck

Obama is the product of what money in the wrong hands can do.

Soros said it in 2004. The Democrat party has been bought and paid for. That includes the media, federal agencies, financial houses and unions.

Our world is based on the money and influence of maybe 5 people. Tear down their infrastructure and we save the entire world from a life of slavery. If only Soros’ web was torn down, the west would not be facing what it is.


31 posted on 06/09/2012 5:32:40 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: RoosterRedux

Obama is such a narcissistic freak that he could keep Vienna in business for decades trying to figure out all of his pathologies.


32 posted on 06/09/2012 5:33:38 AM PDT by Smber (The smallest minority is the individual. Get the government off my back.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Obama is such a narcissistic freak that he could keep Vienna in business for decades trying to figure out all of his pathologies.


33 posted on 06/09/2012 5:33:54 AM PDT by Smber (The smallest minority is the individual. Get the government off my back.)
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To: upchuck
Obama is the Peter Principle boosted beyond normal incompetence by affirmative action.

He is sublimely incompetent!

Another example of such is Obama's hero Derrick Bell of Harvard. As Thomas Sowell said of Derrick Bell (I paraphrase), "Bell would be teaching at a community college under normal circumstances...not Harvard."

34 posted on 06/09/2012 5:33:58 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Sow the wind...reap the whirlwind!)
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To: RoosterRedux
For a long time, I found it hard to understand why he couldn’t translate his political savvy into effective governance.

Because he is not interested in governing or leading? It looks like he is more interested in all the perks he gets rather than actually doing anything.

One hundred rounds of golf and not a single reference to his scores. He hides everything that has an objective value including his college grades.

Has he ever spent more than three days in a row in the White House? Taking AF1 to Richmond, VA. It goes on...

35 posted on 06/09/2012 5:35:04 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: RoosterRedux


The United States can survive Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president.

NO MO BO - 2012




36 posted on 06/09/2012 5:40:17 AM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: RoosterRedux
...Obama hasn't been able to capture the public's imagination and inspire people to follow him. Vision isn't enough in a president. Great presidents not only have to enunciate their vision; they must lead by example and inspiration.

Kline has missed the mark all the way around - he assumes Obama has a "great vision" but the problem is the inability to enunciate/demonstrate it. The problem is that his "vision" is a cut-off-at-the-knees" America and he has demonstrated/led that charge. The getting people to follow "problem" is that the acts bely the words and the more he shows his true colors (is that racist?) the more people refuse to follow.

37 posted on 06/09/2012 5:49:35 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: duckman
IMO, zero started out as a moderate, while campaigning, then immediately moved to the far left after elected.

He was an insane Marxist nincompoop while he was campaigning, too, but he gives good speeches that sound very moderate and reasonable, and the news media effectively lets him live that lie.

38 posted on 06/09/2012 5:49:55 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: duckman

Zero didn’t start out as a moderate. He started out as a liar. He said Ayers was just a guy who lived in his neighborhood. He said he hadn’t listened to his pastor of twenty years. He denied being a Socialist, but he had joined the New Party in 1996. And the list goes on, and on, and on...


39 posted on 06/09/2012 5:58:51 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: ronnie raygun
...what the hell is wrong with the people of this country in electing this fraud...

First cut, I'd blame TV poisoning. People don't think anymore, just respond to imagery.

This is our first American Idol President.

40 posted on 06/09/2012 6:01:08 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: RoosterRedux

His fundamental flaw is his failure to connect with ordinary people. Why? Because he’s a Kenyan-born, Muslim, card-carrying commie! That’s why.


41 posted on 06/09/2012 6:08:26 AM PDT by Jack023
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To: duckman

42 posted on 06/09/2012 6:10:25 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Jack023

You left out “down low.”;-)


43 posted on 06/09/2012 6:10:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Sow the wind...reap the whirlwind!)
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To: Makana

Indeed. My work is screening prospective candidates for mid level management positions in a well known Fortune 500. Yes, I said mid level.

I would scan over Barry’s resume, and shitcan it immediately. Not only that, if for some odd reason I did put it in the maybe pile, I’d have to run him through Export Compliance security screen. Everyone knows how that would work out.


44 posted on 06/09/2012 6:16:09 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: RoosterRedux
“He waged such a brilliant campaign, first against Hillary Clinton in the primaries, and then against John McCain in the general election."

His brilliant campaign consisted primarily of him having a black skin, being able to read a teleprompter, and having the ability to tap into "white guilt".

Obama would still be a small time Chicago hustler, skimming money off federal poverty grants if we didn't have so many stupid white voters suffering from the "white guilt" they are still carrying from their years of racist indoctrination in government schools.


45 posted on 06/09/2012 6:19:31 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: atc23

Just goes to show you the difference between talking and doing. Like an old man (about 90 yr old) told me years ago “I can still talk a good f***” Not much in the way of it actually happening though! That’s all Obama was ever capable of doing was talking a good f***. He’s never done anything and honestly too lazy to follow through with anything.


46 posted on 06/09/2012 6:21:20 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: RoosterRedux
Barack Obama’s fundamental failure as president is his inability to connect with people

That is a flat out lie.Obama connects to the masses like few presidents have other done. The last one was JFK. His failure is his ideas are wrong, his policies are wrong, his world view is wrong.

47 posted on 06/09/2012 6:24:05 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: OpusatFR

Thanks for your post. I had to look up the definition of three words! I’m feeling a little dumb now.


48 posted on 06/09/2012 6:25:13 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: RoosterRedux
The problem with Obama is that he was sold to the country by the MSM.

He was protected every turn by them, while in truth he is an amateur whose every instinct about the way the world works is wrong.

How could he know? For him getting along in life has simply been passing tests and working the bureaucracy. He's never done anything else his entire life. He's never produced anything. He's never really done anything on his own. He's spent his entire life slipping around, playing the system and enjoying himself.

49 posted on 06/09/2012 6:25:22 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: stormhill

Also his belief in big government.


50 posted on 06/09/2012 6:45:38 AM PDT by cymbeline
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