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Defense of Marriage Act Goes to SCOTUS
Breitbart: Big Government ^ | 06/04/2012 | Ken Klukowski

Posted on 06/04/2012 4:30:49 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

The Supreme Court is the next stop in the battle over the definition of marriage, thanks to a federal appeals court partially striking down a law defending marriage passed by a strong bipartisan majority and signed by President Bill Clinton.

Congress enacted the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) in 1996. It passed the House 342-67, and the Senate 85-14, with strong bipartisan supermajorities. But DOMA is under attack in federal court. Then President Barack Obama joined those challenges, with Attorney General Eric Holder abandoning his duty to defend Acts of Congress in court, and instead filing legal briefs arguing the courts should strike down DOMA. So Congress has retained outside counsel to do Holder’s job, with its Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group (BLAG) hiring the finest Supreme Court lawyer in the nation, former U.S. Solicitor General Paul Clement, to defend DOMA.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clinton; doj; doma; holder; homosexualagenda; marriage; newt; obama; scotus
Paul Clement also argued for our side on Obamacare before the SCOTUS.
1 posted on 06/04/2012 4:30:57 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; GregH; ...
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

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2 posted on 06/04/2012 4:33:39 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yep, definitely keep an eye on Clement.


3 posted on 06/04/2012 4:35:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Whatever this defense costs should come out of ewik H’s budget X10.


4 posted on 06/04/2012 4:41:34 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend suggested I use pelosi in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

So here we are in the early 21st Century in a noodle over what the definition of marriage means. Totally regressive and moronic scenario instead of being progressive. Our modern era is becoming on par with Sodom and Gomorrah plus the latter corrupted years of the Roman Empire.


5 posted on 06/04/2012 4:41:44 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

But DOMA is under attack in federal court. Then President Barack Obama joined those challenges, with Attorney General Eric Holder abandoning his duty to defend Acts of Congress in court, and instead filing legal briefs arguing the courts should strike down DOMA.

If Holder is not upholding the duties of his office
he should be impeached.


6 posted on 06/04/2012 5:09:24 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tflabo

Cicero noted the corruption of law in Rome in his time. It is caused by arbitrary laws-—laws made up for privileges of groups or relatives or friends which don’t give equal rights to all. Marriage between one man and one woman gives their natural children their natural right to their biological parents-—which treats human beings with dignity and respect (and implies duty with responsibility) instead of children as a commodity to be bought and sold or exchanged to whomever, not the people who would be most likely by genetics to love and nurture them because of their own genetic interest (nature).

US law is based on Natural Law Theory, not Barney Franks’ perverted evil urges.

Laws are NEVER arbitrary. If they are they are unjust and it no longer is a Just society-—chaos always results with corrupt laws—ones made up NOT ACCORDING TO THE LAWS OF NATURE and RIGHT REASON.

Logic and Reason and Science have to be ALWAYS in line with Natural Law-—that is where logic and reason originates. Marxists throw out the Laws of Nature-—to get rid of Natural Rights from God.

Homosexual “marriage”—the absurd, evil practice of sodomy—is not a Natural Right. There is no Right to sodomy within the Natural Rights from God.


7 posted on 06/04/2012 5:17:31 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

I missed the part where this natural law thingy relates to the speed of light in a vacuum, or the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Can you explain?


8 posted on 06/04/2012 5:20:59 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker
A fingernail sketch: Natural Law is a relatively simple way that the courts used to interpret laws and if there was no law on point, then how to determine the correct outcome. Natural Law is a theory that God set up rules to live by and if God's rules are followed, then society will be well run. Since God does not talk to us regularly we have to look to sources of his will, e.g. tradition if it has worked well, the Bible, even nature itself. It worked pretty well, because it ruled at the edges and let the legislature make significant changes.

If you do some serious research, you can see how most of the Bill of Rights is based upon Natural Law; the idea being that the Bill of Rights is no more than a partial listing of those rights that God gave us.

9 posted on 06/04/2012 7:12:19 PM PDT by fini
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To: fini

I have a sense Natural Law will be declared a “hate crime” soon.


10 posted on 06/04/2012 7:27:49 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Lurker

Yes. Natural Law Theory is the basis of our legal system since all Reason comes from these Laws of Nature.

The Laws of Nature are WHY we have the Laws of Physics-—without the Laws of Nature you could not predict ANYTHING. There could be no science-—no logic -—no reason-— nothing. There would be no possibility of even coming close to the idea of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. It is why the Greek culture and the West were so inventive. They developed Natural Law Theory—starting in earnest with Aristotle and even before. Other cultures stayed ignorant because of their lack of developed Natural Law Theory which was at its height in the West with St. Thomas Aquinas and then John Locke and Galileo and Newton.

All science is about predictability-—if you had no Laws of Nature-—like gravity, etc., you could not predict a darn thing.

Everything would be chaos-—arbitrary-—no Universal Truths derived from Natural Laws-—like our Constitution and Legal System—Natural Rights From God.

Arbitrary laws based on Barney Franks perverted urges are UNJUST LAW and thoroughly, absolutely against the Laws of Nature and unconstitutional by a myriad of reasons. Read my tagline.


11 posted on 06/04/2012 8:55:19 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: ReformationFan

Well, if that happens, then the Constitution will be a hate document.


12 posted on 06/04/2012 8:56:42 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: fini

According to John Marshall, laws are “null and void” if they contradict the Natural Laws which would contradict the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land.

Natural Law Theory, which contains a “moral law” and Universal Truths, is the basis of US jurisprudence. Common Law was based on Natural Law also but with John Locke and St. Thomas Aquinas and others it became a very sophisticated and complex theory.

It is little understood today because Karl Marx and the Postmodernists and legal scholars who flooded the law schools with John Austin’s twisted thinking.....and progressive thinking wanted to eliminate Natural Laws so that they could overthrow the Constitution-—the idea “Natural Rights from God” comes from Natural Law Theory-—so does individualism. Marx hated the laws of nature-—he wants to mold men in his image and under his control with his standard of right and wrong-—so God has to go!

Clarence Thomas is the one who truly understands Natural Law. Even Scalia is not really versed in it-—which is common coming from Law Schools since Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. infected the legal system in the US.

Most laws today are unconstitutional and should be “Null and Void” according to John Marshall. John Austin’s ideas are incompatible with our Constitution.


13 posted on 06/04/2012 9:12:34 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Indeed. And the libs will say the Constitution is “unconstitutional”. :?


14 posted on 06/04/2012 10:37:24 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

I think the libs have been saying the Constitution is unconstitutional for decades now. Libs are irrational....it is like Ayn Rand when interviewing with the idiot Donahue-—when she was mentioning the Postmodernists (including Marx) and saying how they threw out Natural Laws——and with it all reason and logic.


15 posted on 06/04/2012 10:45:15 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m hoping SCOTUS doesn’t become SCROTUS.


16 posted on 06/05/2012 12:03:36 PM PDT by fwdude
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