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Drone wars and state secrecy – how Barack Obama became a hardliner
The Guardian ^ | Saturday 2 June 2012 | Paul Harris

Posted on 06/03/2012 9:06:25 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

He was once a liberal law professor who campaigned against the Iraq war. According to revelations last week, the US president personally oversees a 'kill list' for drone strikes in Yemen and Pakistan. Then there's the CIA renditions, increased surveillance and a crackdown on whistleblowers. No wonder Washington insiders are likening him to 'George W Bush on steroids'

Amos Guiora knows all about pitfalls of targeted assassinations, both in terms of legal process and the risk of killing the wrong people or causing civilian casualties. The University of Utah law professor spent many years in the Israel Defence Forces, including time as a legal adviser in the Gaza Strip where such killing strikes are common. He knows what it feels like when people weigh life-and-death decisions.

Yet Guiora – no dove on such matters – confessed he was "deeply concerned" about President Barack Obama's own "kill list" of terrorists and the way they are eliminated by missiles fired from robot drones around the world. He believes US policy has not tightly defined how people get on the list, leaving it open to legal and moral problems when the order to kill leaves Obama's desk. "He is making a decision largely devoid of external review," Guiroa told the Observer, saying the US's apparent methodology for deciding who is a terrorist is "loosey goosey".

Indeed, newspaper revelations last week about the "kill list" showed the Obama administration defines a militant as any military-age male in the strike zone when its drone attacks. That has raised the hackles of many who saw Obama as somehow more sophisticated on terrorism issues than his predecessor, George W Bush. But Guiora does not view it that way. He sees Obama as the same as Bush, just much more enthusiastic when it comes to waging drone war.

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1 posted on 06/03/2012 9:06:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican; Pharmboy
George W Bush on steroids

There are lots of different kinds of steroids.

2 posted on 06/03/2012 9:09:01 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

Maybe...maybe nobama’s killing list has the effect of viagra on him, making him able to “tuck in” mooch-elle? Just surmisin’.


3 posted on 06/03/2012 9:12:37 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

How did it happen?!? He grew up Moslem in a Moslem country.

Thanks MinorityRepublican.


4 posted on 06/03/2012 9:20:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Hmmm

Think about this:

A Commie-in-Chief with a Kill List.


5 posted on 06/03/2012 9:21:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: hal ogen
Maybe...maybe nobama’s killing list has the effect of viagra on him, making him able to “tuck in” mooch-elle? Just surmisin’.

I did not think there was any statement that would cause me to spew Jamesons's Irish on my key board and monitor. I WAS WRONG!

6 posted on 06/03/2012 9:36:21 PM PDT by cpdiii (i)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Instead of calling him Zer0 (Oprah is O!), now can call him "Killer!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCruefYl3FI

7 posted on 06/03/2012 9:49:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MinorityRepublican
Washington insiders are likening him to 'George W Bush on steroids'

Does this mean he will have to return the Nobel Peace Prize he got for not being George Bush?


8 posted on 06/03/2012 9:50:16 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt)
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To: MinorityRepublican

As I hope we all know by now (Freepers, I mean), Zero was never a law professor. Not even close. He was a lecturer. That position is not even in the same universe as a professor.


9 posted on 06/03/2012 10:26:13 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: cpdiii

“I did not think there was any statement that would cause me to spew Jamesons’s Irish on my key board and monitor.”

Hmmm, that suggests it might be time for a glass of Bushmills really good Irish whisky...the Black Bush sippin’ variety :)


10 posted on 06/03/2012 10:34:21 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It is my understanding that Emperor Zero was simply a part time lecturer in Constitutional law. And not a well regarded one either, by his peers.


11 posted on 06/04/2012 3:25:58 AM PDT by bytesmith
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To: MinorityRepublican

According to Obama and the MSM, waterboarding a handful of high-level terrorists for intel was the worst human rights atrocity since the Nazis.

But blowing up folks with Hellfire missiles from 20,000 feet up is just fine.


12 posted on 06/04/2012 4:42:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: MinorityRepublican
By blowing up a few Radical Islamic Jihadists, (Oops, "Insurgents") Dear Leader "appears" like he is "engaged" in the War on Terror (Oops, the "Overseas Contingency Operations") and diligently working to prevent further acts of Terrorism (Oops again, thanks Big Sis for reminding me: "Man-made Disasters") while at the same time, getting a pass from his Mooselimb Bros throughout the World; ANYONE seen any "rioting" going on since he started knocking off a "FEW" of these scumbags?

As in everything the RATS do, this is all "Symbolism over Substance."

Plus, if you kill them, then you don't have to take any prisoners which is a conundrum right now as O'Bummer would not know where to put them or what to do with them, and they would be a reminder that while we are "Not at war with Islam," they sure as hell didn't get the memo and continue their Supremacist and Global Jihad efforts at conquering the World and Destroying "Big Satan" (that be us; Little Satan is Israel) the ONLY country that stands athwart to their 1,400-year goal.

13 posted on 06/04/2012 7:19:29 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: MinorityRepublican
By blowing up a few Radical Islamic Jihadists, (Oops, "Insurgents") Dear Leader "appears" like he is "engaged" (and tough) in the War on Terror (Oops, the "Overseas Contingency Operations")and diligently working to prevent further acts of Terrorism (Oops again, thanks Big Sis for reminding me: "Man-made Disasters") while at the same time, getting a pass from his Mooselimb Bros throughout the World; ANYONE seen any "rioting" going on since he started knocking off a "FEW" of these scumbags?

As in everything the RATS do, this is all "Symbolism over Substance."

Plus, if you kill them, then you don't have to take any prisoners which is a conundrum right now as O'Bummer would not know where to put them or what to do with them, and they would be a reminder that while we are "Not at war with Islam," they sure as hell didn't get the memo and continue their Supremacist and Global Jihad efforts at conquering the World and Destroying "Big Satan" (that be us; Little Satan is Israel) the ONLY country that stands athwart to their 1,400-year goal.

14 posted on 06/04/2012 7:20:57 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: MinorityRepublican
By blowing up a few Radical Islamic Jihadists, (Oops, "Insurgents") Dear Leader "appears" like he is "engaged" (and tough) in the War on Terror (Oops, the "Overseas Contingency Operations")and diligently working to prevent further acts of Terrorism (Oops again, thanks Big Sis for reminding me: "Man-made Disasters") while at the same time, getting a pass from his Mooselimb Bros throughout the World; ANYONE seen any "rioting" going on since he started knocking off a "FEW" of these scumbags?

As in everything the RATS do, this is all "Symbolism over Substance."

Plus, if you kill them, then you don't have to take any prisoners which is a conundrum right now as O'Bummer would not know where to put them or what to do with them, and they would be a reminder that while we are "Not at war with Islam," they sure as hell didn't get the memo and continue their Supremacist and Global Jihad efforts at conquering the World and Destroying "Big Satan" (that be us; Little Satan is Israel) the ONLY country that stands athwart to their 1,400-year goal.

15 posted on 06/04/2012 7:21:29 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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