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Diminishing concept of God not only in Communist China
Christian Concepts Daily ^ | June 1st, 2012 | J. Nyquist

Posted on 06/01/2012 3:54:10 AM PDT by se99tp

“Marxism is a religion for them,” Noted Dr. El Tassa. “They are very simplistic. They are so simplistic that you cannot compare them to other communities at all. They cannot imagine certain abstract concepts any more. The idea of God is completely out of their reach. They cannot conceive of God any more. And it was not always like that in China.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: china; communistparty; marx; middleeast
It is interesting read. I read it having in mind all of news about transformation in China.
1 posted on 06/01/2012 3:54:22 AM PDT by se99tp
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To: se99tp

” They cannot imagine certain abstract concepts any more.”

Now that’s scary.

The question I’ve been asking for awhile;
How do you evangelize when there is no concept of sin?
How do you create an idea of God in a mind that only accepts what is seen?
Communism is evil.
Islam is evil.
When they join forces (and they have) they are double evil.

2 posted on 06/01/2012 4:16:44 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: se99tp

This article is no good. The noted Dr. El Tassa was not talking about the Chinese people under Communist China.

He/she got the concept of Chinese being too simple because lack of concept of god, from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (in his own words, ‘intellectual KGB of China’).

Even if the intellectuals believe in something else, they won’t speak out loud to noted Dr. El Tassa (the first westerner ever got a graduate degree from such institution). They will have suspected he is a complete convert to the Marxism God and therefore, the bait.

And yes, in this case, both the interviewer and Dr. El Tassa are the simpletons themselves.

3 posted on 06/01/2012 4:47:00 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

” The noted Dr. El Tassa was not talking about the Chinese people under Communist China.”

(I posted my first comment without even reading it)

If you want to speak of the average Chinese family living out in the country then maybe you are correct. But, I think the same “propaganda” forces that inspire worship, love, real emotion toward a Dear Leader are the same forces that inspired the desire for a Der Fuerer in Germany in the 1930’s.

A large part of the United States fell for the same lie in 2008. We are constantly bombarded by brainwashing that the answer is always a bigger and stronger government.

When the concept of sin is discarded there is no need for a Saviour.
When moral depravity is replaced in the mind by materialism then concepts like Communism are birthed.

4 posted on 06/01/2012 6:31:09 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: vanilla swirl; se99tp; All

Here in the US, Cultural Marxim aided and abetted by the media and the educational system has very insidiously and cleverly replaceded such things as

our unique mix of judeo-christian ethics infused with a protestant work ethic that values personal responsibility, an honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay, patriotism, objective standards, the scientific method, and small government

with such things as political correctness, moral equivalence, feelings, worship of Gaia, fairness, educational, economic, environmental, and social justice, open borders, world wide citizenship, science by consensus,
large government that is here to help you, and the removal of ethics and patriotism from economics.

5 posted on 06/01/2012 6:32:31 AM PDT by khelus
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To: se99tp

I lived in China and I have 4 opinions on this subject based on the time I spent in China and the many people I knew there:

1. Although the Chinese people are mostly not religious (despite the fact that there are some religious people, Catholics, Falang Gong, etc), one idea that seems ubiquitous in their society is the idea of “fate”. I’m not sure what they mean by it (beyond the obvious) — who or what controls or determines it — but I believe that a vast majority of the people strongly believe in it.

2. Very few, if any, Chinese people have communism as a religious belief, the way many westerners do. Those Chinese who are not in the communist party look at communism as a yoke on their lives, something they are fated to endure for as long as it lasts. Those who are in the Communist Party look at it as a vast system of perks that they are lucky enough to be the fated recipients of. Only the Schmucks in the West actually worship Communism. I don’t believe there is a single living person in China who has the faintest inclination to have a religious-like faith in Communism the way every Harvard student and faculty member has (for example).

3. There is a very, very strong sense of “being Chinese” that, to me, is the closest thing they have to a true religion. Not being Chinese myself I don’t understand this very well and don’t feel very qualified to write about it in detail but having been there it is one of my strong “take aways” from the place. Every one of them “feels” their “Chineseness” in a way that is deeper and in some way more constraining than the way Westerners feel their national or group identity. Americans, for example, despite the deep patriotism that many of us have, feel our individuality first, and even feel that individuality as an expression of our American-ness. But the Chinese “feel” Chinese in a deep and self-constraining way. In my opinion.

4. Part of their belief in their Fate and in their Chinese-ness is a strong belief in the length of history and the value of patience, on a cultural scale. They have a strong belief in “this too shall pass” meaning, currently, The Chinese Communist Party. They believe that Communism is their Fate To Endure, but that, as Chinese, with their long, long history, they will outlive (as a group) everything, including the yoke of communism.

6 posted on 06/01/2012 7:11:24 PM PDT by samtheman (
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