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Report: Counterfeit Chinese Electronics in U.S. Military Aircraft Jeopardize National Security
DailyTech ^ | May 23, 2012 | Shane McGlaun

Posted on 05/28/2012 6:44:41 PM PDT by neverdem

Counterfeit electronics and military hardware risks American lives

It would be reasonable to expect the United States military contractors building the aircraft our military uses to defend the nation to be absolutely sure electronics they use in the aircraft are legitimate and don't suffer from any security issues. However, a Senate report indicates that this not always the case. The Senate Armed Services Committee issued a report documenting the year-long investigation launched by Democratic Chairman Carl Levin and ranking Republican John McCain into counterfeit Chinese electronics in military aircraft.

The report spans 112 pages shows that 1,800 cases of bogus counterfeit parts were discovered during the investigation. The counterfeit Chinese parts were discovered in the Air Force's largest cargo plane, helicopters used by special ops soldiers, and Navy surveillance aircraft.

Levin said, "[The report] outlines how this flood of counterfeit parts, overwhelmingly from China, threatens national security, the safety of our troops and American jobs."

“It underscores China’s failure to police the blatant market in counterfeit parts — a failure China should rectify,” he continued.

The Senate report also notes that the Chinese government wouldn't issue visas to Senate committee staff that wanted to travel to Asia as part of the investigation. Defense News reports that one Chinese embassy official said the issue was sensitive and a negative report could damage relations between the United States and China.

While the source of the counterfeit electronics was overwhelmingly determined to be China, the report does say that contractors and other authorities in the United States are partly to blame for failing to detect fake parts and routinely failing to report suspected counterfeit goods.

Among the fake and counterfeit parts the investigation discovered were Electromagnetic Interference Filters that were used in night missions and in the operation of military arms such as the Hellfire missile used on certain Navy helicopters. Counterfeit memory chips were also found in the display systems used by the C-17 Globemaster III and the C-130J military cargo aircraft. Additional counterfeit parts were discovered in refurbished ice detection modules on the Navy P-8A Poseidon used for anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare by the Navy.

The SAS first mentioned the problem of counterfeit electronics and military hardware last year.

Source: Defense News


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: china
Who are the idiots in the government that agreed to this?
1 posted on 05/28/2012 6:44:56 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
So, do the chips pass the specs?

Have backdoors?

2 posted on 05/28/2012 6:48:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: neverdem

When buying obsolete components (thank you RoHS) there is a full 40% that are obtained from “brokers” who specialize in these sorts of things. There are always the risks of counterfeit components. Sometimes there is no RoHS compliant successor device


3 posted on 05/28/2012 6:53:27 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: neverdem

Conservatives raised heck about farming out defense manufacturing to foreign enemies back when Clintoon was in office giving military secrets to China. We were told by the citizens of the world (in both parties) that China was our best friend...just like we are being told now that the Muslim Brotherhood is our best friend.

We have the stupidest elite ever cursed upon a Nation. Globalism is a death pact.


4 posted on 05/28/2012 6:57:32 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: neverdem

brought this up last week...

got ridiculed by some tard here on FR

(the number of progressive infiltrators on FR has drastically increased during the last few years)


5 posted on 05/28/2012 7:05:30 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: neverdem

In 1960`s - 1970`s Chips and transistors sold to military/contractors had to have a paper trail to the U.S. factory with a telecom verbal ok and 2 sealed lot samples were required to be sent back to the U.S. factory for confirmation of genuineness. Looks like they have changed the rules in the DD Pentagon.


6 posted on 05/28/2012 7:09:04 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (what??`?? Who knew?)
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To: neverdem

Happens to everybody in the industry sooner or later. I experienced this first hand back in 2007 buying chips; power MOSFETS, through a broker. One problem is that fab houses do limited runs on chips, particularly VISHAY. The manufacturers themselves will sometimes hold some in reserve which they then sell for inflated prices. Same thing with brokers. When a hard to find popular part suddenly becomes available it turns into a feeding frenzy and frequently a crapshoot.


7 posted on 05/28/2012 7:15:14 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: SaraJohnson
We have the stupidest elite ever cursed upon a Nation

It is my principle beef with "the greatest generation." When they passed power on to the boomers, they did not sort out those with guts, initiative, creativity and willingess to work hard from the suck-up gimme children of the '60's.

8 posted on 05/28/2012 7:23:46 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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9 posted on 05/28/2012 7:30:27 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Over 90% of US military equipment is made in the USA.

In 2010 we exported $8,641 million of arms and imported $893 million.

13 out of the top 20 arms manufacturers are American.

1.Lockheed Martin - USA
2.BAE Systems - UK
3.Boeing - USA
4.Northrop Grumman - USA
5.General Dynamics - USA
6.Raytheon - USA
7.EADS - EU
8.Finmeccanica - Italy
9.L-3 Communications - USA
10.United Technologies - USA
11.Thales - France
12.SAIC - USA
13.Oshkosh Truck - USA
14.Computer Sciences Corp. - USA
15.Safran - France
16.Rolls-Royce - UK
17.General Electric - USA
18.Pratt & Whitney - USA
19.ITT Corp. - USA
20.Almaz-Antei - Russia

http://www.sipri.org/research/armaments/production/Top100


10 posted on 05/28/2012 7:33:34 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: neverdem
but, but, but - the Pentagon brass said this could never happen - the Chinese could never compromise the American military - safeguards are in place - puleeeze!!!

we must have American equipment and parts. Pull subsidies from corn, alternate energy, etc. and subsidize American defense industries

11 posted on 05/28/2012 7:46:46 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: moonshot925

Thanks for the list & link.


12 posted on 05/28/2012 7:53:29 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: elpadre

Huawei is #1 suspect in any of this. If you want to be secure NEVER buy anything with a Huawei parts in it! NEVER!


13 posted on 05/28/2012 8:16:24 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: neverdem
Senate Armed Services Committee Democratic Chairman Carl Levin and ranking Republican John McCain said that no effort will be spared -- they will go all the way back to the afternoon of Jan 20th, 2001 if necessary to try to ID those responsible for outsourcing defense acquisitions to China.

The Senate has assured that there is no need to go back further. President Clinton has already issued a statement saying that he didn't do it and "no one can prove that he did."

14 posted on 05/28/2012 8:32:26 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: neverdem; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..

Heck, this is just ‘National Security’. This is how the Federal Government ‘works’.

And these are the folks we are told must take over our health care.


15 posted on 05/28/2012 8:37:43 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: neverdem

Free trade and capitalism at its finest. Make more profits by outsourcing. Who cares about quality or the US worker? It is all about the bottom line and management bonuses,

Before someone calls me a union jerk, I am management and I’ve been watching it for over 20 years. Just like your representative in Congress the average CEO will act in his own self interest, future of the country be damned. I wish it wasn’t so but it is. Industry, government, academia and the press are run by egotistical self serving elitists, not God fearing patriots. The election of Mitt Romney instead of Barack Obama will not change a thing. When push comes to shove Mitt will back his Wall Street buddies over the American people just like George W Bush bailed out the banks, shoveled TARP money at them, and buried the American people under a mountain of debt.


16 posted on 05/28/2012 8:40:03 PM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: sickoflibs; neverdem; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...

” Heck, this is just ‘National Security’. This is how the Federal Government ‘works’.

And these are the folks we are told must take over our health care.”

Incompetent fools!!


17 posted on 05/28/2012 8:47:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: moonshot925
Over 90% of US military equipment is made in the USA.
Using counterfit Chinese parts...Or didn't you even read the article?
18 posted on 05/28/2012 10:56:55 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 05/29/2012 10:13:51 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: moonshot925
13 out of the top 20 arms manufacturers are American.

Enjoy that list while it lasts, the Chinese are doing everything they can to get on that list and eat into our defense industries.
20 posted on 05/29/2012 3:53:01 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: WellyP
Huawei is #1 suspect in any of this. If you want to be secure NEVER buy anything with a Huawei parts in it! NEVER!

Are you sure you're not confusing them with somebody else??? My Governor welcomed them with open arms:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eruWGDSYDg
21 posted on 05/29/2012 3:53:01 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Paladin2
So, do the chips pass the specs?

Have backdoors?


Backdoors or having corners cut to save some money along the line (which goes into somebody's pocket), either way both are equally dangerous.
22 posted on 05/29/2012 3:54:51 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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