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Christie Is Not One of Us
National Review ^ | 26 May 2012 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 05/26/2012 6:44:58 AM PDT by LSUfan

Chris Christie is so not one of us that articles like “Christie Is One of Us” — a new contribution to the genre, from National Review’s Noah Glyn — are churned out regularly as the governor’s smitten admirers, from Ann Coulter to NR staffers, labor to convince us of what they’ve convinced themselves of: that an ostensibly gruff, internally milquetoast, progressive-lite, pro-Islamist Republican must be the second coming of Ronald Reagan because he has managed to make a basket-case blue state marginally less of a basket case. And “marginally” is the operative word. Glyn’s valentine to Christie is unfortunately timed. It was published just as Moody’s declared that Christie’s claim to have put New Jersey’s fiscal house in order is grossly overstated.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: New Jersey; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christie; islam; jihad; prostituteann; rino

1 posted on 05/26/2012 6:45:10 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

I do not understand the reason for Christie’s rabid support. He’s outspoken.... big deal. His positions revolving around personal freedom seem tepid at best to me.


2 posted on 05/26/2012 6:51:25 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: LSUfan
He makes Romney look liberal.

Wait a minute, Romney makes Romney look liberal too!

3 posted on 05/26/2012 6:53:58 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: bossmechanic

“you can fool some of the people all of the time.....”

Many Freepers were fooled last year about a possible Christie run even after many of us were pointing out the facts and just in similar fashion, many ate fooled about Rubio just because he makes good speeches


4 posted on 05/26/2012 6:56:02 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: LSUfan

Creeping Islamicization of America is one of our most pressing problems. If Christie fails here, it’s hard to accept him as the “best that NJ can do.”


5 posted on 05/26/2012 6:59:59 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: LSUfan
labor to convince us of what they’ve convinced themselves of: that an ostensibly gruff, internally milquetoast, progressive-lite, pro-Islamist Republican must be the second coming of Ronald Reagan

Yeah...but isn't that essentially what a bunch of FReepers on here are trying to do with Mitt Romney?

6 posted on 05/26/2012 7:04:57 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: LSUfan

Whatever good Christie has done taking on the municipal unions he is undoing with this disgusting love of jihad, jihadism and jihadists.

What good does it do us to control the power of the teacher’s unions if we transfer a bunch of that power to sharia courts?

Christie is a Useful Idiot for the muzzies who just happens to have done a few good things on the fiscal front for NJ.


7 posted on 05/26/2012 7:08:14 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: LSUfan
I hope if our "gal pal" Coulter reads this, there are no sharp objects close by.

I don't CAIR care if it were the Gipper (Reagan) ANYONE who is sympathetic, appeases, defends or is otherwise apologetic/supporter of Islamists (as opposed to Muslims) will/would never get my support and is NO "Conservative."

8 posted on 05/26/2012 7:13:49 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: LSUfan

The northeastern elite(Rockefeller wing) have control of the GOP, I hope it’s the GOP’s death knell because these people are not conservatives.


9 posted on 05/26/2012 7:14:38 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
"labor to convince us of what they’ve convinced themselves of: that an ostensibly gruff, internally milquetoast, progressive-lite, pro-Islamist Republican must be the second coming of Ronald Reagan"

Yeah...but isn't that essentially what a bunch of FReepers on here are trying to do with Mitt Romney?

Oh, NOW you've done it! RomneyBots incoming!


10 posted on 05/26/2012 7:16:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders

Are you suggesting not voting
We got Clintoon because of statements like this - were you around with Ross Perot?
Alas - here is an example of why history repeats...in my humble opinion...
True change comes from within - so to be successful lets go to the local caucuses - the local conventions, then the state conventions then the National conventions and make a change - not withhold - or put your head in the sand.

11 posted on 05/26/2012 7:19:42 AM PDT by Ganndy (Remember November)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Chris Christie goes berserk when criticised about appointing a Muslim judge:

“Sharia Law has nothing to do with this at all, it’s crazy!” he cried. “The guy is an American citizen!” He concluded that the “Sharia Law business is just crap… and I’m tried of dealing with the crazies,” adding with disgust and frustration that “it’s just unnecessary to be accusing this guy of things just because of his religious background.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/chris-christie-lashes-out-at-crazies-after-appointing-muslim-judge-the-sharia-law-business-is-just-crap/

NO THANKS!


12 posted on 05/26/2012 7:22:44 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: bossmechanic

In a place like New Jersey, Christy is a raging conservative.

Perhaps he represents the start of a movement that will incrementally move state governments from the far left to the center and, hopefully, back to traditional constitutional status.


13 posted on 05/26/2012 7:23:31 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: izzatzo

We need to take over the Republican National committee. The two liberals representing Michigan on the Committee were voted out last week.

All it takes is a couple hundred dedicated individuals in each state. There were only about 2000 people total at the Michigan convention.


14 posted on 05/26/2012 7:23:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bossmechanic

I live in NJ. I do not recall CHRISTIE ever claiming he was a Conservative. He is a Republican and they are NOT the same thing as all of you well know. That said were he a REAL Conservative he would have had NO CHANCE to get elected in NJ and had that happened MY RE taxes would have gone up instead of GOING DOWN and in surrounding towns remaining static.

He has balanced the budget as he said he would do and without State tax increases. Local taxes are NOT his responsibilities and to avoid prop tax increases many towns laid of unnecessary workers. Anyone have a problem with that? Good CEO’s know when to cut back and in bad times such as now people lose jobs, too bad but that’s the reality.

I would love to have a super Conservative like Walker as my Governor but in this State he would not get elected at this point. He is light years better then Corzine was and the thing to do is accept Christie as a great improvement and then work for ever stronger Conservatives which is a possibility if the numbers here continue to improve.


15 posted on 05/26/2012 7:25:47 AM PDT by galloway15
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To: LSUfan

He’s not one of us and neither are those who keep trying to foist him on us. He’s over in Mayor Bloomberg territory on firearms, and that’s just one area he’s way off.


16 posted on 05/26/2012 7:25:57 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: bossmechanic

I wouldn’t say that Christie has rabid support.

A lot of people love to listen to him speak because of his confrontive and amusing style.

Don’t know how this author came to know that Christie is inwardly passive? Must have insight to the inner workings of Christie’s mind that are in no way shown on his outside demeanor. That is just a journalistic trick.

Christie has done a good job in New Jersey. Most conservatives in the state like him.

He’s not conservative enough for the rest of the country, maybe, but is that any reason to denigrate him for what he HAS done.

But that’s what rabid so-called conservatives do, isn’t it?


17 posted on 05/26/2012 7:26:24 AM PDT by altura
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Yeah...but isn't that essentially what a bunch of FReepers on here are trying to do with Mitt Romney?

Its different when we do it. /s
18 posted on 05/26/2012 7:27:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: LSUfan

How about Derbyshire??


19 posted on 05/26/2012 7:28:26 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: Flintlock
How about Derbyshire??

Wensleydale?


20 posted on 05/26/2012 7:37:09 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: LSUfan

Finally someone puts the Christie coservative mystique into focus.


21 posted on 05/26/2012 7:38:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: LSUfan
"We accept you, one of us! Gooble Gobble!"

Couldn't resist.

However, in all fairness, conservatism doesn't have a litmus test, other than "not liberal-leftist-socialist-communist-fascist-bigoted".

Unlike the left, which strictly limits its doctrines to "the agenda", and refuses to compromise, requires hate, greed, perversity and unfairness among its members, and admires its extremists and most unreasonable and repulsive members.

Thus conservatism has always been the 'big tent', embracing calm reason, earned success, prosperity, law and order, ethics, freedom and liberty.

22 posted on 05/26/2012 7:40:28 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: LSUfan

Let him stay in NJ.

It only matters WHEN Christie himself or some eGOP try to promote him officially to the national level.


23 posted on 05/26/2012 7:41:36 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: izzatzo
The northeastern elite(Rockefeller wing) have control of the GOP, I hope it’s the GOP’s death knell because these people are not conservatives.

IMHO after Mittens loses to the black jesus from Chicago (Rasmussen has the Won back up to -12 today), the GOP will be a gonner. A new party will emerge - today the GOP-e and all the gas bags refer to that as a 3rd party. Check the history of the Whig party - the Independents are all set to vote "Tea Party". Congress approval at it lowest rating in history?
24 posted on 05/26/2012 7:42:50 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: LSUfan

Chris Christie - NJ = Rick Snyder - MI.


25 posted on 05/26/2012 7:44:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: LSUfan

“Christie Is Not One of Us”

He may not truly be “one of us”, but conservative/realists must face the fact that he’s probably “the closest we’re going to get”, considering where he’s coming from.

If I recall, Christie barely squeaked through with a majority in his election. New Jersey is what it is. And what it is, is a “true-blue” state of the left.

I’ll go so far as to predict that Chris Christie may indeed be the “most conservative” governor that New Jersey is going to see for years to come.

When he goes, it’s probably going to be Cory Booker....


26 posted on 05/26/2012 7:54:54 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: LSUfan

I doubt that it matters who Romney picks. I suspect that Palin has turned him down, already.


27 posted on 05/26/2012 8:00:08 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Sir Napsalot
It only matters WHEN Christie himself or some eGOP try to promote him officially to the national level.

Unfortunately at that point he becomes the great conservative hero like Romney because few conservatives have the courage to oppose him. The net result is that the whole country moves even further to the left.
28 posted on 05/26/2012 8:01:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Tau Food
I suspect that Palin has turned him down, already.

She's not stupid. Romney is a political career killer.
29 posted on 05/26/2012 8:06:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: LSUfan

Christie is a fine caddie for the country club Democrats.


30 posted on 05/26/2012 8:13:57 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: cripplecreek

What you said was true before. But I doubt the conventional wisdom will apply in the near future, in no way I see the GOP survives and remains their old self.

They (GOP, DC insede the belt way) probably don’t have an inkling how furious some of us feel. And I know I don’t speak for a tiny minority.


31 posted on 05/26/2012 8:29:32 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: LSUfan

I think he’s more like two or three of us.


32 posted on 05/26/2012 8:30:03 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: RichInOC

LOL!


33 posted on 05/26/2012 8:34:28 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: bossmechanic

I think he’s largely a phenomenon of the Northeast RINO Republican who so doesn’t want to be hated by all his friends.

So having some nice RINO candidates and pols to back with enthusiasm becomes exhibit A of how they may be Republican, but they’re not like those rabid knuckledraggers from flyover country. I mean, how could they be, when they support smart and sophisticated—law-trained middle- to upper-middle-class—candidates who don’t really believe that crazy social stuff. For that matter, they don’t really want to do away with big government’s perpetual growth.

Oh, they might slow it down a bit and be something of a counterweight to the Dems’ excesses, but these candidates aren’t like some heathen from Alabama or Kansas, ferchristsakes. And if that’s the kind of Republican that a our poor RINO journalist or citizen supports, really how can their Democrat friends hate them just for that?


34 posted on 05/26/2012 8:36:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Sir Napsalot
They (GOP, DC insede the belt way) probably don’t have an inkling how furious some of us feel. And I know I don’t speak for a tiny minority.

There is a ripple quietly spreading outward from Mitt Romney in the GOPe pond and it doesn't bode well for the establishment. Here in Michigan, 2 of the 4 people who voted in favor of changing delegate allocation rules after the primary were Republican National committeemen. Both were voted out of their seats last weekend by a coalition of tea partiers, conservative republicans, and libertarians. And now it turns out that Thaddeus McCotter is well short of the signatures to get his name on the ballot for his house seats. (I personally like McCotter but he's too friendly with the unions and put his butt on the line in endorsing Romney)
35 posted on 05/26/2012 8:45:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Road Glide
“the closest we’re going to get”,

That's true here in NJ, but it's not true on the national level. Well, it is true if it means 'the closest we are going to get out of the RNC & GOP elite.'

The strange thing about this argument on the national level is that while we have a center right country (huge majority against Obamacare, TARP, etc.), we conservatives are continually told that 'the closest to conservative we are going to get' is a center-left to full-left Republican candidate for President.

Christie is not one of us, and except for a bit of business experience, neither is Romney. Christie might be the more conservative of the two, as he has not proposed anything like RomneyCare.

36 posted on 05/26/2012 8:53:29 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: LSUfan

For Jersey, he’s more than halfway to the right. For the country at large (and for lots of us stuck behind enemy lines in Jersey), he’s too far left.


37 posted on 05/26/2012 8:58:04 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
However, in all fairness, conservatism doesn't have a litmus test, other than "not liberal-leftist-socialist-communist-fascist-bigoted".

Well then, that would leave Romney out, wouldn't it?
38 posted on 05/26/2012 9:45:23 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The onerous Romney makes me root for the Ron Paul supporters working hard at the state level across the US trying their darndest to stop him from getting a first round nomination.

While this won’t mean that Paul will get the nomination—he won’t—if they can just stop the onerous Romney from getting it in the first round, conservatives and America itself will owe them a huge debt of gratitude.

And there is a lot of overlap between the Paul agenda and the conservative agenda. While some of it, like dismantling much of the police state, will make some conservatives shriek in agony, it just needs to be done for the good of our nation.

Other parts, like dismantling a lot of the unconstitutional federal government, many conservatives embrace in theory, but not in practice. Yet this, too, is necessary surgery for the health of our nation.

Conservatism will no longer mean just the preservation of the status quo, no matter how bad the status quo is. Instead it will mean following the constitutional rules, no matter how pragmatic and profitable it has been to a small number of people to violate those rules.


39 posted on 05/26/2012 11:56:08 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: LSUfan; Coleus; jocon307; Alberta's Child; Pharmboy; Calpernia; Malsua; dead; nj26; OldFriend; ...

bump & a ping


40 posted on 05/29/2012 9:01:38 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: EGPWS

You need a reality check.

Christie is a pro-Muslim, pro-illegal gun grabber.

He’s a pompous, bloated gasbag


41 posted on 05/30/2012 3:25:04 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: ZULU
I have no love for Christie at all less his sometimes refreshing "say what I think, when I think it" attitude.

Even that sometimes flops for him however.

42 posted on 05/30/2012 3:30:37 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

For the life of me, I don’t get what Coulter sees in him. But I don’t get what she sees in Romney either.


43 posted on 05/30/2012 5:51:11 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: ZULU

Gay?


44 posted on 05/30/2012 5:52:58 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2888480/posts?page=2#2)
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To: samtheman

Gay who?


45 posted on 05/30/2012 6:11:44 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: All

“CFOs name Texas, Florida and Nevada among the most competitive states in which to operate from a tax perspective, while California, New York and New
Jersey are viewed as the least competitive states.”

Christie has done a GREAT job (Sarcasm).


46 posted on 05/30/2012 6:18:04 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: All

The quote is from this source:

http://alvarezandmarsal.com/en/about/action_matters/documents/CFOSurvey_FINAL_002.pdf


47 posted on 05/30/2012 6:19:01 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: ZULU

Coulter. I wonder if she’s gay. It might explain her love of Christie and Romney. (I’m wondering. Not saying. )


48 posted on 05/30/2012 6:20:09 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2888480/posts?page=2#2)
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To: samtheman

I think she is straight - she had a boyfriend.

If she put some weight on, she would look a lot better. Aside from the Christie-Romnet problem, she is pretty orthodox - conservatively speaking.


49 posted on 05/30/2012 6:40:04 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: LSUfan
He's a gun grabber too, but this article doesn't mention that.
50 posted on 05/30/2012 5:04:22 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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