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To: Wonder Warthog
Actually, Pons/Fleischmann's peer-reviewed article in JEAC has never been refuted.

Being ignored is just as bad. As I said their careers were ruined.

WHY do you keep dragging this argument up?? It has nothing whatsoever to do with the validity of the science.

Because publishing articles and then having them cited by subsequent articles that either affirm the claims or refute them is how most science is done, not in blogs as is done with cold fusion.

WHY don't you address the supposed errors/mistakes in the paper itself??

Because I'm not the one making the extraordinary claim. I'm not the one pumping up a disreputable science filled with con artists like Rossi and scientists like George Miley making claims he can't back up.

Your actions make Rossi look like a pillar of veracity.

Wow! A backhanded admission, after months of daily hype by you and Kevmo that Rossi was making things up.

33 posted on 06/07/2012 7:51:54 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
"Being ignored is just as bad. As I said their careers were ruined."

Yup, and when the history of CF is definitively written, you skeptopaths are going to have a lot to answer for. Not just for Pons/Fleischmann, but Bockris and many others, and outright fraud (MIT "failed replication").

"Because publishing articles and then having them cited by subsequent articles that either affirm the claims or refute them is how most science is done, not in blogs as is done with cold fusion."

Still lying. The article I cited did not originate in a blog. Science is discussed everywhere nowadays, including in blogs (but LENR/CANR is NOT a "blog", any more than FR is). And the stifling of publication in certain journals is another thing you skeptopaths are going to have to answer for (many, many cases documented, extending even to Nobel Prize physicists (Julian Schwinger)).

"Because I'm not the one making the extraordinary claim. I'm not the one pumping up a disreputable science filled with con artists like Rossi and scientists like George Miley making claims he can't back up.

The article is there. Address the science in the article. Stop dancing around the issue and bringing in more extraneous and irrelevant issues.

"Wow! A backhanded admission, after months of daily hype by you and Kevmo that Rossi was making things up.

Yes, Rossi uses misdirection quite heavily to lead potential competitors astray. There is stil NO evicence whatsoever that he has lied about the core of his discovery (generation of large amounts of heat energy).

You're really good a "shuckin' and jivin" around the core issue. You once told me to pick and article and "support it" (whatever that means). Well, there is the article, from a peer-reviewed journal, which definitively makes the science case for fusion in Pd/D2 systems. The work, IMO, was both thorough and carefully done. I see no errors of any significance.

Now PUT UP or SHUT UP.

34 posted on 06/08/2012 5:07:16 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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