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EU: Greece faces German future as euro exit looms
The Telegraph ^ | 5/25/2012 | Emma Rowley, and Philip Aldrick

Posted on 05/25/2012 1:05:02 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Germany has reportedly drawn up a six-point plan to rescue Greece and the eurozone’s other failed economies in the same way East Germany was rebuilt after the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Chancellor Angela Merkel wants to revitalise the eurozone’s weaker countries with a package of privatisations, according to German weekly Der Spiegel. This would be overseen by an agency modelled on the Treuhand or “trust agency” which sold off most of the East’s state-owned businesses.

Berlin also wants to relax employment laws to bring them in line with the German model and to set up special economic zones to lure investors with tax incentives and less red tape.

The proposals are likely to prove controversial with electorates who will be unwilling to be effectively told to follow a more German way of life.

The plans emerged as Germany dug its heels in deeper over the issue of eurobonds. Berlin is resisting the idea of pooling eurozone debt unless there is closer fiscal integration first.

“The pooling of debt is just one side of a coin where federalism is the other. Governments who are in favour (of eurobonds) fail to point this out,” said German central bank chief Jens Weidmann.

The comments came amid rumours – detailed by the bank of Tokyo Mitsubishi-UFJ – that a Greek exit is now imminent. The bank said there was speculation that a “planned departure” would take place over the weekend of June 2 and 3.

The left-wing party that opposes Greece’s austerity agreements has extended its lead ahead of next month’s election

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1 posted on 05/25/2012 1:05:13 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
The left-wing party that opposes Greece’s austerity agreements has extended its lead ahead of next month’s election.

It might be a good idea to kick Greece out before the election. It would take the wind out of the sails of the left-wingers.

2 posted on 05/25/2012 1:20:09 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Cowboy Bob

It doesn’t matter at this point whether the Greeks are kicked out or not, or whether they are kicked out before or after the election. The message is pretty clear, and way past due:

“Die Party kommt zu Ende.”


3 posted on 05/25/2012 1:43:09 PM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: bruinbirdman

“Germany has reportedly drawn up a six-point plan to rescue Greece and the eurozone’s other failed economies in the same way East Germany was rebuilt after the fall of the Berlin Wall.”

The only way they’ll make Greeks work like Germans is to not feed them otherwise.


4 posted on 05/25/2012 1:48:55 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: bruinbirdman
I'm sure the "Nazi" epithets are flying thick and fast in socialist enclaves like Greece (and France).

Merkel has her work cut out for her these next couple of weeks.

5 posted on 05/25/2012 1:54:06 PM PDT by what's up
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To: bruinbirdman

To me, it seems that the key problem in this plan is that Greece is not East Germany. The latter, despite Soviet occupation, still shared heritage, history, and traditions with West Germany. Greece, on the other hand, shares jolly little in common with Germany aside from the fact that the two nations are located on the European Continent.

The Germans have, overall, demonstrated a willingness to make sacrifices to place the nation on a firmer economic foundation. Greece, on the other hand, seems more willing to throw tantrums as the merest hint of fiscal restraint or when anyone suggests some tinkering with retirement age.


6 posted on 05/25/2012 2:03:24 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps; All

It’s even more than that. The former DDR had such helpful things as industry, and a fairly decent infrastructure with manufacturing of heavy industrial goods as well as consumer products. Now granted, it was not very efficient by Western standards, but at least it was present. That made things a bit easier for the West Germans, though reunification was still far from totally smooth.

The last time I looked around, I didn’t see any Greek-made automobiles, or airplanes, or train carriages, or wristwatches, or alarm clock, etc., etc. The Greeks have shipping, which is in the toilet owing to the current worldwide trade slump, and tourism, which I personally think won’t be too popular when Greece goes up in flames; it would be like vacationing in Syria. OK, sure, maybe for the real hardcore adrenaline junkies it might be a rush, but for your average middle-aged German or British tourists, probably not so much.

You’re totally dead-on about the cultural differences. For the Greeks, well, not ALL Greeks, but a fairly sizable chunk of them, irresponsibility is apparently a way of life. They want their seat at the all-you-can-eat buffet, and by God, they’ll throw a temper tantrum of Homeric proportions when they realize they can’t get their way. As for that fool Tsipras, he’s leading the Greeks into a disaster by promising them the comforting delusion that they have their baklava and eat it too.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; when the Greeks realize that the EU wasn’t bluffing when they said they would be kicked (or forced) out of the EU, and that Tsipras was full of crap and sold them a bill of goods on the magnitude of the Trojan Horse, Greece is going to explode in a manner the like of which hasn’t been seen since the Peloppenseian War.

Yeah. Good luck with that tourism-led recovery.


7 posted on 05/25/2012 2:35:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Let me see if I understand these radical measures:

privatisations...relax employment laws...lure investors with tax incentives

The proposals are likely to prove controversial with electorates who will be unwilling to be effectively told to follow a more German way of life.

If the Greeks object to the above because the measures are too controversial, they deserve the coming pain...

8 posted on 05/25/2012 2:51:07 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
The Greeks have shipping, which is in the toilet owing to the current worldwide trade slump, and tourism

Olive oil! You forgot about olive oil!

Sorry, don't have anything against the Greeks and think they are victims of big government as much as we are. Just couldn't resist.

9 posted on 05/25/2012 4:42:32 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

All things Greek, some my side bias but that’s everywhere

A few fun tidbits.

Economy of Greece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Greece

Greece’s main industries are tourism, shipping, industrial products, food and tobacco processing, textiles, chemicals, metal products, mining and petroleum.

Greece has the EU’s second worst Corruption Perceptions Index after Bulgaria, ranking 80th in the world,[43] and lowest Index of Economic Freedom and Global Competitiveness Index, ranking 119th and 90th respectively.[44][45]Corruption, together with the associated issue of poor standards of tax collection, is widely regarded as both a key cause of the current troubles in the economy and a key hurdle in terms of overcoming the country’s debt problem.

among European nations; Greeks worked an average of 1,900 hours per year, followed by Spaniards (average of 1,800 hours/year).[53

A study by forensic accountants has found that data submitted by Greece to Eurostat had a statistical distribution indicative of manipulation.[65][66]

Greece suffers from very high levels of tax evasion. In the last quarter of 2005, tax evasion reached 49%,[144] while in January 2006 it fell to 41.6%.[144]


10 posted on 05/25/2012 5:52:09 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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