Posted on 05/23/2012 8:38:31 PM PDT by dila813
The news is that the Click it or Ticket stepped up enforcement is started on Monday.
Even if you are wearing your seatbelt, that isn't any protection against a ticket.
Police can now stop you for no other reason than they say you weren't wearing it. This is the ultimate revenue generator.
On Twitter, the propaganda is in full swing @NHTSAgov #ClickItorTicket
I see no newspaper involvement or invitation to newspapers here.
I had my seat belt on, I had a gray shirt with a gray seat belt, yet he insisted he could tell I wasn’t wearing it from 200 feet away through a tinted window.
And, it is not a contradiction to want a safety law and to want it to be applied with justice and truth.
my mistake, it is 115, but I can see that it was 30 in Florida in 2009
Perhaps the right legal approach would be to move of the court that this premise be tested with the self same officer, car, locale, and time of day, on the grounds of the disputing witnesses. This in principle creates an appellate issue.
They run the ads here in AZ too, despite the fact that we don't have a primary law, and every year I have to re-convince Mrs. Thinking that no, they still can't pull you over just for no seat belt. I wonder if it would be possible to sue the TV stations or whomever is paying for the ad time for fraud, for saying something they know isn't true. Hmmm......
I tried that, I had photographs of me wearing the same clothes and of the same car.
Even tried to get them to go outside to see the car right outside the courthouse, and the judge refused.
They just don’t give a rip.
You could nail them at appeals. They are banking that you do not want hard enough to try.
Maybe you ought to have tried, for the sake of the larger good. Consider the value of your own time that you are spending on FR. It it for self or country you care?
The third P.S. is that I think, in your emotion, that you might have come short of constructing a coldly logical case leading to a logical conclusion — and injecting things like calling the police liars rather than mistaken — and the judge jolly well knew it. That’s where attorneys often DO matter. Courts can pose tricky hoops, and some judges want to be helpful but others don’t.
What the hell is this, Minority Report?? For the punishment to fit the "crime", it would be that you could "potentially" get a ticket if you "potentially" go into the road.
“I got one that will be hard to top.”
I was cutting through the parking lot of Blockbuster in order to avoid a red light. A cop saw me do it, he stopped me, and asked me why I did it, I told him “I am late for work”. He issued me a ticket to appear in court.
I had a few weeks to think about it.
In court the the officer told the judge that I was cutting through a parking lot to avoid the red light.
I plead not guilty, and told the judge that I was only stopping to see what time Blockbuster closed that night. The police officer said “he told me that he was late for work”
I kinda chuckled, and told the judge “I told the officer that HE was MAKING me late for work”
It was thrown out of court, the cop didn’t look very amused.
I have suggested this. Citizen Freedom fighters. Groups of citizens that patrol the streets and video and audio tape traffic stops, check points and other Law Enforcement activities. Also Freedom fighters can have cell phone apps or websites to keep the public informed of the location and nature of enforcement points.
We as citizens can begin to install hidden recording devices in our cars that can be activated any time we are stopped. I would have this data immediately transmitted offsite so that even if the car is impounded there is no way the data could be seized by law enforcement. It could even be transmitted directly to your lawyer.
It sounds crazy but the technology is there and it's not really cost prohibitive.
Make sure your community does NOT allow passage of any laws that prohibit the recording of law enforcement activities. After all if they are not doing anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about, right? !!
Bottom line: We must start fighting back.
Ack!
"truth".
sure, 450 dollars, take the day off to get a court date, then take another day off 2 months later to show up for my court date.
And to further the tales of woe, attorneys love such a system as it earns them more bucks just coming back and back...
But anyhow, if ordinary Joes do not put in an effort to stand up and be politically counted with respect to such affairs, by cracky they won’t be. You can build up cynicism till you’re blue in the face and it gets you nothing but headaches as these bad actors get to live in your mind without paying any rent for the privilege.
You are exactly correct. On that disgusting web page from the Florida Department of Transport in conjunction with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, there is literally a contest with points, one of the major scoring sections being how many tickets they can write:
Governor Scott should be ashamed. This is ridiculous, over-the-top behavior by the State of Florida. It's no surprise that the Kenyan Clown's goon squad in Washington delight in such bully-boy tactics, but it's a shame that one of the most Republican states in the nation — the governorship has been Republican since 1999, and currently the Republicans have a supermajority in the House and Senate — is willing to play along.
Nowadays, for saying that, your friend would get slammed to the ground, handcuffed and tasered..in that order. If the cops happened to be in that person`s house, they`d herd the family into the living room and make them watch as the cops pump multiple rounds into the family dog just for the intimidation effect.
So the cop can say whatever he wants, even baldfaced lies, and the rest of society can’t even say “boo”?
“I noticed the subject not wearing his seatbelt. And I’m pretty sure he also killed Robert Kennedy, even though he’s only 31 years old. He’s just that good.”
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