4th Amendment? We don't need no stinking 4th Amendment!
Posted on 05/23/2012 8:38:31 PM PDT by dila813
The news is that the Click it or Ticket stepped up enforcement is started on Monday.
Even if you are wearing your seatbelt, that isn't any protection against a ticket.
Police can now stop you for no other reason than they say you weren't wearing it. This is the ultimate revenue generator.
On Twitter, the propaganda is in full swing @NHTSAgov #ClickItorTicket
I wasn’t allowed to say he was a liar, but everyone who was in the car with me knew the truth.
HUH?
You are not allowed to speak the truth in a court of law?
If the cop was lying I am going to testify that he lied. Screw them.
Eventually one must open their eyes to the truth.
Some stupid technicality which maybe a lawyer could have gotten around, come to think of it. “He’s incorrect, he must be thinking about some other traffic stop.” Something which doesn’t quite challenge these bullies face on.
And that is why I love Nevada. Every year the Nannies try to pass a primary seat belt law and EVERY year it gets shot down.
Sure, they run the propaganda here, but they cant do unannounced checkpoints and they CANT pull you over for just your seatbelt :)
Do you like spending 10 days in jail for contempt? A wise man picks his fights more carefully.
4th Amendment? We don't need no stinking 4th Amendment!
Yet somehow these legal bullies must be halted. There sooner or later are going to be citizen organizations that will wait for such unjust things to happen and then jump on them with all fours.
Then they say it is defamation, The judge says no name calling or I would be in contempt.
wow, I might just move!
Anywhere else I can be done with these nannies?
There are probably polite phraseologies to get around most of this B.S. Like “believe that XXX is carrying on in an YYY manner.” Or generalities like “ZZZ is wrong.” Usually it makes sense to try to be polite before little Napoleons; they might be appeased. But pure legal B.S. needs to get challenged. If you could not argue that the officer purposedly engaged in untruth if you had reason to support that, then this ought to be matter for an appellate court and surely there ought to be citizens organizations for this purpose if there is any sense of honor left in the land.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_It_or_Ticket#Illegal_Checkpoints_.26_Enforcement
Illegal in these states:
4.1 Arizona
4.2 Colorado
4.3 Idaho
4.4 Indiana
4.5 Massachusetts
4.6 Missouri
4.7 Montana
4.8 Nebraska
4.9 New Hampshire
4.10 North Dakota
4.11 Ohio
4.12 South Dakota
4.13 Utah
4.14 Vermont
4.15 Virginia
4.16 West Virginia
4.17 Wyoming
Eg. MA:
The provisions of this section shall be enforced by law enforcement agencies only when an operator of a motor vehicle has been stopped for a violation of the motor vehicle laws or some other offense.
Mass. has better laws in this regard than Texas. For shame, Texas.
see #51
Seat belts kill. Any speed much over 45 or 50 mph and you hit something, you’re dead. Our bodies are 60-70% water. When you go from 50mph to zero in .007 seconds or less your body stops but your insides keep going. Much like dropping a glass of water. The glass stops when it hits the ground but the water sprays all over the place. That’s your insides. That’s what killed Princess Di. Her aorta popped loose from her heart from the sudden stop of the crash.
I tried to be polite, the judge even said that she believed the witnesses, but unfortunately she needed to rule against me because the presumption is the cop is telling the truth and isn’t mistaken.
When the judge said this to me, the cop was just smirking at me ear to ear.
This sounds like material for an appellate court — wrong application of law.
And for that matter, possibly the court of public opinion. Newspapers periodically investigate such things. It can get judges non-retained.
Is it?
You get paid just as much to ticket grannie for a seat belt violation as you do busting your butt to track down someone you know has a whole bunch of shiny new guns they are itching to try out.
sure, 450 dollars, take the day off to get a court date, then take another day off 2 months later to show up for my court date.
Bingo.
The insurance companies would fight almost as hard as the municipalities against this.
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