Posted on 05/22/2012 10:28:04 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
The state of Hawaii has verified President Barack Obama's birth records to Arizona's elections chief after a nearly three-month back and forth that Arizona officials said could have ended without the incumbent's name on its November ballot.
Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for.
Arpaio said health officials in Hawaii refused to talk to his deputy and posse investigator on Monday, though an assistant attorney general came out to talk to the investigators.
"They won't have anything to do with us," Arpaio said.
Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the Hawaii State Department of Health, said two men dressed in business suits from Arpaio's department sat down with deputies from the health department and attorney general's office in a conference room Monday.
The men identified themselves as being from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and provided their badges and business cards when asked, Okubo said.
"They said they were conducting an investigation," Okubo said.
Okubo said the Hawaii officials told the men they had to show why they needed the information as part of ordinary business — a response similar to that given to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett last week when he publicly pushed his request to verify Obama's birth.
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I’ve done lots of family research in Massachusetts.*Anyone* can go to the state Vital Records Dept in Boston and,with a few exceptions (adoptions,for example),see the *official* birth,marriage,death or divorce records,as contained in official bound volumes,on *anybody*,relative or complete stranger.And then,upon payment of a fixed fee,that same person can get an *official,certified* copy of the certificate,that copy being an actual Xerox copy of the page found in the bound volume with an official state seal affixed to the bottom.I know,I’ve done it (on family and one or two strangers).
A negative can not be proved.
We can demand that Obama prove he is qualified. We already know he cannot.
I disagree that we “know he cannot” prove he is qualified. I regard his LFBC to be a forgery.
That means a BC with Frank Marshall Davis as father or a witness or other documents such as SADO’s lost diary or even blood testing could, in the future, prove that Barry is NBC by having US citizen parents on US soil.
Of course, I am partial to the Kenya birth location regardless of the sperm donor. I hope Corsi can deliver on his claim that devastating revelations exist and are pending this week.
After perusing this thread, I am reminded of a few lines of the recitation portion of the Declaration of Independence:
“In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”
I hope Sherrif Joe goes all out in his investigation.Where in fact WAS Barrack Hussein Obama born. 360 million Americans deserve to know.Whats the problem is showing the documentation for that....EH? There needs to be a hue and cry across this land demanding it.
Did they? Or did they just give Az a copy of the documents where Nancy Pelosi took it upon herself to verify his eligibility since back in 2008 HI refused to do so...
And yet Kanpiolani Hospital never claimed that he was born there to my knowledge.
The changes the HI AG made Bennett make had nothing to do with establishing a legitimate government purpose. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2887501/posts
The changes that were actually made actually strongly support what I have contended: that they CANNOT verify any birth facts for Obama because his birth record is late and amended and thus not legally probative.
The tell-tale piece of evidence: Bennett withdrew his actual verification request FORM, which according to HRS 338-14.3 would have required the HDOH to certify the true facts of Obama’s birth - including place of birth, date of birth, and the parents’ names. Those are the critical pieces of information, and Bennett withdrew a request for the HDOH to verify the legally-probative true facts.
Very, very revealing.
Or, he was born in Hawaii and proved it for his first passport.
Neither have I. Although back in the day (around the time Obama was born) if a baby was born at home they would actually go to a hospital in Hawaii and have the documents done. This was so common and well known that pregnant foreigners would go to Hawaii to have their anchor babies at some home or even in a hotel then go get the papers done at the nearest hospital.
they also fail to mention that the document presented was a compromise beat down of the state of Arizona using a "I hearby cerify, trust me" note and in no way was a forensic verification of evidence, just another smokescreen to cover up the truth
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I think the only possibility is that Obama’s current US Passport is a forgery, just like the rest of his American documentation.
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During the presidential campaign back in 2008, I read a message by a poster at an Israeli website that presented this theory of how Obama might have been able to obtain a passport without presenting a birth certificate:
According to the poster, back in the 1960s, children were routinely listed on a parent's passport as opposed to today, when children, as I understand it, have to apply for their own individual passport.
This meant that when the child later applied for his own passport, the passport office would see that the child had been listed on his parent's passport, so the passport office would, most of the time, give the child his own passport without requiring the child to provide legal documents like a birth certificate to prove that he was a United States citizen.
In summary, if Obama was listed on his mother's United States passport as a child back in the 1960s, then, Obama, according to the poster at the Israeli website, could later obtain his own passport without presenting a long form birth certificate.
Just some food for thought.
So if someone out there could explain to me why the poster at the Israeli site was correct or not correct back in 2008, I would appreciate it.
Hawaii imigration is so full of holes that Castro could claim to be a citizen and we'd never figure it out.
... which according to HRS 338-14.3 would have required the HDOH to certify the true facts of Obama’s birth - including place of birth, date of birth, and the parents’ names.
That is exactly what Hawaii verified. They verified 12 specific items (including but not limited to the place & date of birth and the parents' names), verified that the information in the copy of the LFBC submitted by Bennett matched their records and went a step further:
"I certify that the information contained in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used to verify the facts of the vital event." - Alvin T. Onaka, May 22, 2012http://www.kvoa.com/files/Verification%20In%20Lieu%20of%20Certified%20Copy.PDF
that they CANNOT verify any birth facts for Obama because his birth record is late and amended and thus not legally probative.
Well, they've done exactly what you said they couldn't. I will post this at the link you provided.
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