Skip to comments.Hawaii verifies Obama's birth records to Arizona (update on Posse w/Okubo)
Posted on 05/22/2012 10:28:04 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
The state of Hawaii has verified President Barack Obama's birth records to Arizona's elections chief after a nearly three-month back and forth that Arizona officials said could have ended without the incumbent's name on its November ballot.
Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for.
Arpaio said health officials in Hawaii refused to talk to his deputy and posse investigator on Monday, though an assistant attorney general came out to talk to the investigators.
"They won't have anything to do with us," Arpaio said.
Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the Hawaii State Department of Health, said two men dressed in business suits from Arpaio's department sat down with deputies from the health department and attorney general's office in a conference room Monday.
The men identified themselves as being from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and provided their badges and business cards when asked, Okubo said.
"They said they were conducting an investigation," Okubo said.
Okubo said the Hawaii officials told the men they had to show why they needed the information as part of ordinary business a response similar to that given to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett last week when he publicly pushed his request to verify Obama's birth.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
More Okubo stonewalling of the Arpaio Posse...
Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
What was given the AZ SoS is only verification according to HI. It MAY NOT resolve the issue.
Perhaps, Bennett is stunned that there is a 'conspiracy'. It's gonna be a interesting Wednesday.
VERIFIED?? What the hell does that mean?
IMO, without a forensically verified BC for Barry positively identifying his parents and location of birth it is not possible for me to assert whether or not Barry is NBC.
Think about it. On which BC are you basing your claim that Barry is NOT NBC, regardless of which nuanced definition of NBC you chose to apply? Barry’s claims in his “composite” book, “Dreams” (written by Ayers) can’t be relied on, or at least I won’t rely on it. Just what are you relying on?
I suppose that State AG’s will extend courtesy “verifications” to each other under the full faith and credit clause but I doubt they are enforceable...especially in HI’s 9th Circuit zone.
Maybe because its late and I am tired but honestly I could not understand what was verified and the article seemed to say “yes he was born here”, “not we wont tell you where he was or not”, “they have the info they wanted”, “they didn’t learn anything”.
I am so confused.
Meanwhile, an old, 2004 AP story via Wayback Machine...
Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.
News Headlines | Home Page
Copyright © 2004 . The Standard Ltd
BARACK OBAMA: THE FIRST BIRTHER
BARACK OBAMA: THE FIRST BIRTHER
(Birther since at least 1991)
OK. They got the Long-form Certificate. When do we get to see it? Huh? Huh? Huh?
If Obama was born in Hawaii, he could end all of this by having Kapiolani release the birth records....That is IF he was born there.
I do not trust ANYTHING that comes from the state.
I think Arizona wants HAWAII’S verification, which can amount to a letter from them stating ‘we verify Obama was born here’. Case closed no matter how corrupt the Hawaiian officials. Arpaio on the other hand is on a mission TO DO THE VERIFYING HIMSELF and not rely on Hawaii’s merely saying so. Knowing Hawaii, they are probably going to play ‘word game ping pong’ with Arizona without actually furnishing any proof of anything. Arpaio is looking for proof, not words from Hawaiian officials. We already know they are corrupt to the core.
When will you Birthers get it through your thick heads that Obozo produced a copy of his birth certificate years ago?
Soros stopped this and it is a set up and/ or diversion.
I'd like to see the two requests made by Bennett.
What wording was changed that allowed the HI officials to "comply" with the request?
For God's sake, it's a Birth Certificate request.
You want my BC, here it is - cost me $10 for three copies certified.
Thanks, ASA Vet. You said exactly the line I always fall back on. This is why the Birth Certificate DOESN’T MATTER (except if it can be proven that the documents were forged in an effort to defraud people). Frustrating as so many of us knew this was coming. Another attempt to tell people “Move along. nothing but conspiracies and crazy folks here”. It’s a shame too many will actually believe it’s all BS (just like they did in 2008).
This is nothing but a charade.
And I wouldn’t put it past that weasel Ken Bennett to have been a willing participant in this orchestrated kabuki dance in order to provide a fig leaf to the Kenyan fraud in the White House.
NOW all of the parties (Hawaii, Arizona, *and* the 0bama regime and their KoolAid drinking zombies) can wave this around and say “see? see? we TOLD you he was born in Hawaii!”
And you can be sure that a few self-delusional posters right here on FR will be among them.
Exactly. Either Bennett was eligible to receive verification of the facts of Obama’s birth as recorded on his birth certificate, or he was not. The way he “worded” the request would not change whether he was eligible or not. This sounds like a bunch of bullcrap, where HI agreed to “verify” only what they wanted or were comfortable “verifying” - NOT what the law says they need to verify.
We need to see exactly what transpired, and what HI gave AZ. If they gave just a generic verification that they have records for Obama, then that would be relying on either a 1960-64 birth index which has been altered to include legally non-valid records OR a database which has been altered to put Virginia Sunahara’s birth record under somebody else’s name (like the HDOH did before).
And no matter what they “verified”, their doing so contradicts previous disclosures that Obama’s BC was amended and/or late and has affidavits supporting what was claimed on the BC - because HI law says that late and/or amended BC’s are not probative; HI cannot vouch for the accuracy of anything on those BC’s. So if HI actually verified anything, it is grounds for Bennett (or any SOS) to audit ALL Obama’s birth/citizenship records, as strongly recommended in the report by the HHS inspector general, found at http://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf .
That's true, from a divided loyalty (MvH) standpoint only if BHO II really is his biological father. The fact remains that to this day, there has still been no definitive proof offered as to the true "Obama" origins.
One thing you can always count on with "Obama": The truth is not in him.
Probably similar wording that Pelosi signed when stating he “was qualified for Pres.” before the 08 elections. Remember that one?
Loved your comment #26.
When I did background investigations, we used two terms for birth records: Verified as in I saw the original birth record. Cooberated as in from another record such as an employment record or school record. For certain investigations, only verified was accepted but that was for something as important as a top secret clearance for code access not something as trivial as being president of the US (sarcasm off now).
The SFGate.com story is mixing up two different stories. One from Arizona’s secretary of state regarding listing the Commie Marxist Mulsim Bastard on the ballot.
The other concerns the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse doing its own investigation.
There are separate activities and not necessarily related. The story seems to assume they are both the same thing.
Hawaii is a co-conspirator.
As are ALL members of the 110th Congress.
Based on his behavior, his loyalties are divided. Or, rather, they do not lie with the United States of America. That, alone, should be enough to disqualify him in the eyes of the voters if not in the judgment of the law, whether or not he is NBC
That's incorrect. Josh Wisch said Monday that Bennett would need to provide legal authority showing his office is "a governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency's or organization's activities."
Wisch told Bennett, specifically, what legal language to use to reword his request. Apparently, Bennett did that and received a confirmation.
Arizona did not ask Hawaii to “VERIFY” anything.
Arizona asked Hawaii to “CERTIFY” Obama’s date, time and specific place of birth as well as the names of the birth parents as listed on the certificate of live birth and the name of the attending physician.
The difference between “verifying” and “certifying” is legal integrity and the attendant perjury penalties. NOBODY is certifying anything. That is quite telling.
MArk my words. These are the same people who claim Israel or America’s birth are not legitimate.
Yeah, birther hypocrisy trash talk by liberals as usual.
Let me tell you something, if the AZ SOS changed his mind, what will the liberals say: Oh, he changed his mind cuz he wanted dollars to run for election and is corruptible or changeable? Or he changed his mind cuz he is a reasonable GOP man?
They cannot have it both ways. Either we are dealing with crookery and going along with it, or we are not.
Fact of the matter is, Democrates love slave labor and are well on their way to instate it and turn AMerica into Laogai camps.
Why do AMerican liberals think they are so special they will not get the Chinese treatment?
It’s just like in Africa, they have to have their “african leader” in power to be legit, and not some “pesky colonizer” from Europe, as it is insulting or dishonorable.
I tell you what, the colonizers are the f@gs who want us to believe that we should turn away from the good fruits of heterosexuality and eat their sh!t as they eat their sh!t, so that all is equal and politically correct in society.
This is horsecrap.
I’m out all day but GET THIS.....local “conservative” radio KFYI.com
startin at 7 am local time w/ Host Barry Young are havin a birther call in...not to help mind ya, noooooo to attack those crazy birthers
again...kfyi.com for those interested
You know this and I know this but the problem is we know what the definition of "IS" is.
We are now dealing with a bunch of revampers revamping our history and re-defining our language. Without a Conservative president to nominate conservative judges with a conservative House and Senate to support those nominations this country is screwed. I personally don't think we can survive four more years with either Romney or Obomba at the helm and Romney "IS" a natural born citizen according to the definition you and I learned.
Seriously... Our Joint Cheifs should have removed obomba from office on day one. At the very least our House of Representatives should have impeached him in the first week after taking office. The list of attacks against the US Constitution since this beast has taken office give grounds for impeachment like none other.
Indeed, the SOS is treated to the liberal communist “birther paranoiac” “they are all insane” “let us shoot them for their own health” clap trap.
The only ones fantasizing are communist “self-sufficiencers” who they cannot keep seeing d!cks and every brain around them and keep being vested in some of the most obvious trash because of some true to form CAPITALISTOPHOBIA.
A liberal is willing to ask a rapist for help in helping remove a mere little lizard, and that is the mark of the phobic. They always get manipulated and empowered by this pseudo-salvation that makes them believe that they are not the only ones crazy and phobic. These people are like the joker, they laugh, they laugh and they laugh, and they never see themselves laughing in their own arse - or they accept it with derision. AHaHAHAH... retards.
Barry mentioned seeing his birth certificate among his papers once, it’s in his book. Isn’t the liar in chief’s word good enough for “you people”? < /sarc >
The legal definition of “to verify”: “To make certain, to substantiate, or to confirm by formal oath, affirmation, or Affidavit.”
Or Affidavit. To confirm by formal affidavit or even only affirmation. So, this “verification” could be nothing more than Granny Madelyn signing under duress an affidavit that she knows he was born in Hawaii. This could be registered in Hawaii, but it doesn’t mean the registrar authenticated it, that any other supplementary documentation was submitted, or that the registrar accepted and certified it as true. The affidavit itself would “verify” that he was born there, but that doesn’t make it so. It’s only one piece of evidence and it may be all the evidence “on file” in Hawaii. Even so, carefully parsed, the spokesperson could tell Bennett and the media, as the HDOH once did, that somebody saw the “records that verify” that he was born in Hawaii. In other words, somebody went and looked at the affidavit (whether substantiated or not) and sure enuf! That affidavit verifies (in other words CLAIMS) that he was born there.
He hasn’t been hiding this stuff for all these years for nothing. Whatever is there, he doesn’t want anybody to SEE for themselves. Hawaii is in so deep now that they all have no choice but to continue to play games, stonewall, and pray they come out of this intact. History will show that they WILL NOT. Truth will out.
I quit listening to Barry Young a long time ago. That guy is so far up John McCain’s butt he’s wearing a hemorrhoid necklace.
ditto that.....and that witch who sponsers him makes me hurl too
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