Arizona flooded by emails on Obama eligibility; 'It should be an honor to show their proof'

wnd ^ | Tuesday May 22, 2012 | Joe Kovacs

[Red Steel]

As Arizona officials contemplate whether or not Barack Obama’s name will appear on a ballot this year, the state is being flooded with emails from concerned citizens urging the attorney general to make sure the president is constitutionally eligible to hold the office.

Secretary of State Ken Bennett is giving news media a glimpse of the more than 1,200 messages sent to his office since Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced March 1 probable cause exists that Obama’s birth certificate released in 2011 is a forgery.

According to KTAR Radio in Phoenix, Brian Reilly of the Surprise Tea Party said he would support Bennett for governor if Bennett refused to put Obama’s name on the Arizona ballot unless the president or the Democratic National Committee could give “information that is satisfactory” to the attorney general and Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse that Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate is authentic.

The station says legislative district 4 director Jim Keller sent Bennett a message suggesting he precludeObama’s name from the ballot, saying Arpaio’s probe proves Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president.

KTAR withheld the names of private citizens who sent emails, but a sampling of their messages to Bennett include:

* “The question of Obama’s legitimacy to be president is too compelling. He waited too long to produce a birth certificate which adds to the questionable document. Please remove him from the presidential ballot.”

[MamaDearest]

...of the people, by the people and for the people....

Voters doing what their elected representatives fear to do.

[Crucial]

That’s right, it should be an honor to prove one’s citizenship.

[Crucial]

And one should be angry and embarrassed to be thought a non-citizen of the United States when so many think so.

[Godebert]

"That’s right, it should be an honor to prove one’s citizenship."

I'd like him to prove that he is a natural born Citizen as required by Article II of the Constitution.

[Ladysforest]

I ran across the CORRESPONDENCE between AZ Secretary of State Bennett and the jokers in Honolulu. I’ll post it and the link.

And yes, it’s worth reading it all - won’t take as long as you think.

On Monday, TPM filed a public records request for the correspondence between the Hawaii government and the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office. The results show Bennett and his staff grew ever more impatient with the slow pace of Hawaii’s response before the secretary finally took to a local conservative radio talk show on Thursday to voice his concerns.

“Hello Jill. I just left you a brief voice mail message,” Arizona Deputy Secretary of State Jim Drake wrote in an email to a Hawaii attorney on May 1. “I am wondering whether you can give me a ballpark timeframe on our request. As you know, the closer we get to November, the more my phone rings. I believe that having Hawaii’s response on hand might help to quell the inquiries!”

Deputy Attorney General Jill Nagamine’s response? “We need more information to substantiate that you are eligible to receive verification.”

MORE ON THE CORRESPONDENCE, Source is TPM,

Here now is the correspondence chain, starting with an email from Nagamine, the Hawaii deputy attorney general, which apparently followed a phone conversation between her and Bennett. The secretary’s first written request comes after that. Also included at the end are two emails Bennett sent to birthers who had been heckling him about the fact that Obama was still on track to be on Arizona’s ballot. TPM has edited out things like home addresses, email addresses and phone numbers.
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From: Jill T. Nagamine
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:15 PM
To: Bennett, Ken
Subject: Link to Hawaii laws and the Department of Health webpage

Hi Ken—

So sorry I’ve taken so long to get back to you. I may take a few more days to get your final response about what we can verify and how we will do so. I have been tied up with some legislative deadlines that take precedence. To start with, here are the links that I mentioned to you.

The first link is to the Department of Health’s website that was created in response to the high volume of inquiries about the President’s birth certificate. It includes the press releases issued by the former Republican-appointed Director of Health.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

The second is to section 338-18, Hawaii Revised Statutes, which governs the confidentiality of vital records. Let me direct you to paragraph (g) which relates to verification of records.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm

Another link is to section 338-14.3, Hawaii Revised Statutes, which pertains to verification.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0014_0003.htm

The last link is to all of chapter 338, Hawaii Revised Statutes, Hawaii’s vital statistics law.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/

Jill T. Nagamine
Deputy Attorney General
State of Hawaii
—

March 30, 2012

Hawaii Department of Health
Office of Health Status Monitoring
Vital Records Issuance Section
P.O. Box 3378
Honolulu, HI 96801

Ladies and gentlemen:

Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

Department of Health File #151 61 10641
Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
Age of father: 25
Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
Age of mother: 18
Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961

Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

Sincerely,

Ken Bennett
Arizona Secretary of State
—

From: Bennett, Ken
To: Jill T. Nagamine
Date: 04/16/2012 01:48 PM
Subject: RE: Link to Hawaii laws and the Department of Health webpage

Dear Jill,

Thank you for speaking with me several weeks ago and providing the helpful links below. I sent a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy of President Obama’s birth record to the Dept. of Health on March 30th. I was just wondering if you knew whether the request was received and how long it usually takes to process? Thanx.

Ken Bennett
Arizona Secretary of State
—

From: Jill T. Nagamine
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:39 PM
To: Bennett, Ken
Subject: RE: Link to Hawaii laws and the Department of Health webpage

Ken—

Thank you for this heads up. This is the first I heard of it. I will check with my client to see if they received your request.

Jill

Jill T. Nagamine
Deputy Attorney General
State of Hawaii
—

To: Jill T. Nagamine
From: Drake, Jim
Date: 05/01/2012 11:52AM
Subject: Request from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office

Hello Jill. I just left you a brief voice mail message. I am wondering whether you can give me a ballpark timeframe on our request. As you know, the closer we get to November, the more my phone rings. I believe that having Hawaii’s response on hand might help to quell the inquiries! Thanks in advance. Jim

Jim Drake
Deputy Secretary of State
—

From: Jill T. Nagamine
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:11 PM
To: Drake, Jim; Bennett, Ken
Subject: Re: Request from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office

Dear Mr. Bennett and Mr. Drake—

My apologies for not responding immediately. I have recently been away from my office a great deal, including today. My client, the Department of Health, has forwarded your request for verification of President Obama’s birth record to me. We need more information to substantiate that you are eligible to receive verification. Hawaii Revised Statutes, section 338-18(g), provides:

(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:

(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes.

As the Secretary and I initially discussed, it appears that you might be eligible for verification of the record based on subparagraph (2), but we need to see what your authority is “to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of your activities.” Will you send me a copy of your law that allows this, and will you send me information that shows:

(1) What list are you updating?
(2) Is it your normal procedure to update all entries on your list by requiring birth data verification?
(3) Are you requiring birth data verification of all entries on your list, rather than just targeting one name on your list? (please provide evidence that you are doing so)

You may address your response directly to me, and I will relay it to my client.

Thank you,
Jill T. Nagamine
Deputy Attorney General
State of Hawaii
—

From: Bennett, Ken
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:12 PM
To: Jill T. Nagamine; Drake, Jim
Subject: RE: Request from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office

Dear Ms. Nagamine:

As the chief elections officer for the State of Arizona and pursuant to Arizona Revised Statutes, sections 16-212, 16-301, 16-502, 16-507 and others, my office is tasked with quadrennially compiling a list of candidates for the Office of the President of the United States. This list is then officially “certified” by my office and transmitted to the fifteen counties for creation of the official ballots. The list is generated in the “ordinary course” of my office’s activities (every four years) and it is certainly made for a “legitimate government purpose” (elections).

Based on the above representation, I believe that my office has strictly and expressly complied with all of the elements found in Hawaii Revised Statutes, section 338-18(g).

I understand your client’s initial trepidation in responding to this request given the significant amount of email, fax and phone call traffic that this issue has spawned. My office too has received numerous constituent requests and I agree with Director Fuddy’s assertion in her letter of April 25, 2011 that the sheer volume of inquires has “been disruptive to staff operations and have strained State resources.” However, I am concerned that a rejection of a request by another State’s chief elections official will dramatically exacerbate an already untenable situation.

Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

Ken Bennett
Secretary of State
—

From: Jill T. Nagamine
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:38 PM
To: Bennett, Ken
Subject: RE: Request from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office

Dear Mr. Bennett:

I am in receipt of your email dated May 17, 2012. As I have informed you and Mr. Drake, Hawaii law requires that for verification of a vital record the requestor must satisfy the requirements of section 338-18(g), Hawaii Revised Statutes, which provides:

(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:
(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes.

I asked you for legal authority that establishes your right to obtain verification, and your email of May 17, 2012 provides me with references to Arizona Revised Statutes 16-212, 16-301, 16-502, 16-507, and unnamed others. These statutes seem to deal with election of presidential electors, nomination of candidates for printing on official ballot of general or special election, form and contents of ballot, and presentation of presidential candidates on ballot, but none, as far as I can tell, establish the authority of the Secretary of State to maintain and update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of his activities. I researched other sections of the Arizona Revised Statutes and was unable to find the necessary authority.

If I have missed something, please let me know. My client stands willing to provide you with the verification you seek as soon as you are able to show that you are entitled to it.

Thank you,
Jill T. Nagamine
Deputy Attorney General
State of Hawaii

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/ken_bennett_birther_hawaii_arizona_emails.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

[SMARTY]

It was for all my grandparents, they knew what it cost them and their families, how far they traveled and what they had to leave behind. They knew what it was worth.

No matter what your nationality, it's something you should be proud of.... even if you had to leave your birth place to become naturalized elsewhere!

All this is so of course... only if you have a wholesome and normal gratitude for a people and nation so generous that they accepted you in your illiterate poverty-only asking your allegiance in return.

[US_MilitaryRules]

Man! Talk about stalling!

[kidd]

I think Mr. Bennett is beginning to see the kind of roadblocks that have been established.

The difference is that Mr. Bennett has some real authority.

I predict that Mr. Bennett will be taken to court by the Obama election team, after he refuses to put Obama on the ballot.

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

After reading what Lady has graciously posted, I now FULLY understand why Hawaii is stalling.

Arizona is asking Hawaii to certify not just that Obama wa sborn there, but to certify the “facts” as already presented to the public. The date, time and hospital. Parental names and birthplaces. Every detail that would appear on the certificate of live birth.

Hawaii is stalling because there is not one single attorney in the Hawaii AGs office that is willing to risk their license to practice law by certifying alleged facts that they cannot verify and certify.

Hawaii will kick this can down the road and hope to run out the clock.

[Venturer]

A lot of people need to go to jail over thisfraud , including the Hawaiian office that is stalling and Obama and Pelosi.

[ScottinVA]

Since Hawaii is stonewalling, the next step for Mr. Bennett is simple.

Keep Obama off the AZ ballot and let the chips fall where they may.

[Ladysforest]

Oh yeah, they can stall better than anyone. Circular stalling.

“I know that you think you provided us with the answer, but we need you to show us why you think that you provided us with the answer.”

[Red Steel]

Nagamine - ...but none, as far as I can tell, establish the authority of the Secretary of State to maintain and update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of his activities. I researched other sections of the Arizona Revised Statutes and was unable to find the necessary authority.

Nagamine and Hawaii are playing silly stupid games.

So Jill, why don't you show us where it says in Hawaiian law statute that Hawaii has to have an out-of-state law statute for you to legally comply with HRS 338-18(g)? Hmmmmmmmmm...Jilly? The Arizona Secretary of State has shown you his credentials and he has given you Jilly sufficient legal reasoning for the state of Hawaii to do their statutory duty in fulfilling HRS 338-18(g)(2).

These clowns in Hawaii are so full crap.

[Ladysforest]

Yes, I had no idea prior to reading through the whole exchange that he had asked for very specific verifications. Hehehehe.

I thought he just sent a floppy, weenie request for any old kind of verification that HI was comfortable giving him.

[FlingWingFlyer]

I predict that Mr. Bennett will be taken to court by the Obama election team, after he refuses to put Obama on the ballot.

I'll bet you're right. I'll bet Eric the Red will be sending one of his EO nazi commando teams to Arizona to see if Bennett is engaging in "racial profiling" of Barry. Here comes another lawsuit against Arizona by the buffoons from the District of Corruption. Just throw it on the pile with the others, Eric! You maggot.

[biggredd1]

linda lingle lied...
http://theobamafile.com/_eligibility/LingleLies.htm

[Envisioning]

Drip, drip, drip....(((ping))).

It really is worth ready thru the email chain.

Unfrigginbelievable!!!!!!

[Red Steel]

“Bennett addressed members of the Red Mountain Tea Party in Mesa on Monday night. He says he is working with officials in Hawaii to verify that President Obama was indeed born there.

Bennett says a conference call with Hawaii officials is scheduled for this week.”

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/18578355/bennett-obama-ballot-status

[MileHi]

Since Hawaii is stonewalling, the next step for Mr. Bennett is simple.

Keep Obama off the AZ ballot and let the chips fall where they may.

Yes, then drag Pelosi Galore in and have her explain on what basis she swore that Barry was eligible in 2008.

[butterdezillion]

Thanks for posting this. Very enlightening. Those people haven’t changed a bit, have they, LF? And if they got a response to their request within a day they obviously made the request to the AZ SOS office, not anybody in HI. If it was up to the HI people, they’d have gotten what they asked for after about 2 years.

Even if Ken wouldn’t qualify under #2 in the verification section of HRS 338-18, he would qualify under #3.

Nagamine is trying to say that he doesn’t qualify under #2 because she looked in ARS and couldn’t find anything about the SOS compiling a list. Apparently she doesn’t think the ballot has a list on it. She needs to look at 16-502 (found at http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/16/00502.htm&Title=16&DocType=ARS )

where it says (emphasis mine):

“E. The LISTS of the candidates of the several parties shall be arranged with the names of the parties in descending order according to the votes cast for governor for that county in the most recent general election for the office of governor, commencing with the left-hand column.”

Bennett is absolutely correct to make the default setting that of Obama NOT being on the ballot. These people can stall forever, arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. But they need to know the ballgame has changed. They are BEHIND in this game, and if they go into a stall, they’re just going to insure that THEY lose.

[sirchtruth]

This is incredible. I mean democrats do this all the time. Obfuscate, deceive, muddy the waters, confuse, omit and lie. It's like they are just one big shell game. Well, hopefully they have met their match here with Ken Bennett! Obama does not go on that AZ ballot until it can be PROVED he was born in Hawaii by an authenticate, certified BC.

Prediction: Hawaii will not release any documents.

[Red Steel]

Even if Ken wouldn’t qualify under #2 in the verification section of HRS 338-18, he would qualify under #3.

I agree.

[butterdezillion]

Exactly.

The statute does say that the HDOH shall not issue a verification until it is satisfied that the person qualifies.

But by the same token, AZ election law ARS 16-311 (found at http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/16/00311.htm&Title=16&DocType=ARS ) says that:

“D. All persons desiring to become a candidate shall file with the nomination paper provided for in subsection A an affidavit which shall be printed in a form prescribed by the secretary of state. The affidavit shall include facts sufficient to show that, other than the residency requirement provided in subsection A, the candidate will be qualified at the time of election to hold the office the person seeks.”

The SOS is the person who certifies the candidates to be on the ballot, so the SOS is the one who has to be convinced that the affidavit DOES include “facts sufficient” - and part of being “sufficient” is being accurate.

Everybody knows that Obama’s candidacy will be challenged after he officially files to be put on the general election ballot. The reason his eligibility to be on the ballot needs to be known BEFORE placing him on the ballot is because the 20 business days allowed to resolve any legal challenge would not be enough to audit the records as they need to be audited.

IOW, this is ABSOLUTELY about stalling so Obama can be on the ballot because the people challenging his eligibility ran out of time (while both Obama and the HDOH obfuscate).

I had said the other day that I hoped the HDOH gave Bennett the standard treatment so he would be really pissed off by the time they got done with him. It sure seems like my wish is being granted. lol

[Red Steel]

Prediction: Hawaii will not release any documents.

Yes, my same sentiments from the very beginning when I heard about SoS Bennett's pursuit of this.

[Ladysforest]

Wanna bet they convince him to accept a verbal “verification” via the conference call?

[butterdezillion]

Something else I just thought of. Being placed on the ballot is a commercial transaction. I looked at a bunch of the ARS, and there are laws governing financial transactions that deal with claims that are presented being able to be verified as accurate.

I really need to get back to work; this week has been so tough for me to get my work done because I have so much I want to keep track of and do on this issue, and the “news” on the radio tells me nothing. But maybe somebody who is good with legalities could think through if there’s anything actionable for Bennett from this angle. The link to the index for ARS is http://www.azleg.gov/ArizonaRevisedStatutes.asp

[MrB]

I’m sure hoping that Bennett has the balls to stick by what he said - no proofy, no balloty.

The best the ‘rats can hope for in that situation is that more states don’t follow suit when the proof is not forthcoming.

Thus the delay.

[sirchtruth]

It's so obvious Obama is hiding something and most likely it's an ILLEGAL case! This just adds more to the fire with the eligibility, especially when you have his literary agent, grandmother, Michelle, newspaper reports, and I'm sure others stating Obama was born in Kenya! Plus add to the fact this dork won't release any college transcripts and has spent a million plus to keep all these records hidden.

The POTUS of the USA won't show us who he is!!! As Americans we should all be blatantly appalled at this and find it unacceptable!!

Thank you AZ for showing some fortitude with this issue and demanding proof!

[MacMattico]

I had to show my daughter’s official, raised seal birth certificate to sign her up for little league softball a few months back!

I guess not so much is required to run for President.

[butterdezillion]

The HHS inspector general’s report on birth certificate fraud (found at http://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf ) makes exactly that same contrast. It says that the degree of scrutiny should increase with the seriousness of the eligibility in question - since it is more critical that a person be eligible for a passport, for instance, than to play Little League.

That report recommends that states require more than just a birth certificate - even if it is a GENUINE birth certificate - to verify eligibility for services and positions. And when there are questions about the genuineness of a document used as evidence (such as a vague, light, indistinct, etc SEAL on a document) then ALL the vital records should be audited.

OK, now I really am going to work... (sigh)

[eCSMaster]

So what’s Bennet’s e-Mail. We FReepers can give him hundreds of thousands of e-Mails.

[Nasher]

My client stands willing to provide you with the verification you seek as soon as you are able to show that you are entitled to it.

Wow. Two months of stonewalling and then this slap in the face.

If I were Bennett I would fire an e-mail something like this:

From: Bennett, Ken
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:00 PM
To: Jill T. Nagamine
Subject: Stonewalling

Dear Ms. Nagamine:

My office has no further interest in playing games. We are now establishing a drop dead date on having our request granted.

We realize that you have other matters which you say are very important. Fine. If no verification is received by May 25, 5:00pm PST, BHO will be left off of the Arizona ballot.

Sincerely,

Ken Bennett

PS - Have a nice day!

[Fantasywriter]

What happened to all the trolls we used to have? Are even they too ashamed and embarrassed to shill for Obama this time? I remember how they used to positively revel in lecturing us that HI wasn’t allowed to say ‘boo’ when it came to Obama. Suddenly, the trolls are silent. I wonder why?

[Smokeyblue]

Bennett: 'If I embarrassed the state, I apologize'

http://ktar.com/6/1544638/Bennett-If-I-embarrassed-the-state-I-apologize

SNIP

Bennett compared his inquest into journalists double-checking with other sources or patients seeking a second opinion from a different doctor and said that his request has not been made before by the birther movement.

"What is so sacred or untouchable about this question that you can't even ask the question," he said.

Bennett, the head of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney's Arizona campaign, said he has looked into obtaining Romney's birth certificate from Michigan, but that he is not requesting the actual documents. Instead, Bennett is asking each state to validate the documents.

"I can ask for this little verification thing from Michigan, just like we did with Hawaii," said Bennett.

Bennett defended himself when accused of pandering to birthers and said the situation puts him in a tough spot either way, as people will think he is either going too far or not far enough.

Bennett expects the verification from Hawaii to come through by Wednesday or Thursday.

[Smokeyblue]

Bennett Backs Off Birther Threat, Apologizes To Arizona

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2886828/posts?page=8

[Red Steel]

Just read. Be back later....

[Seizethecarp]

ping to very significant e-mail exchange between Bennett and Nagamine showing that Bennett has actually demanded verification of key details of the April 27, 2011 WH LFBC!

[Seizethecarp]

Per Bennett:

“The next lawful step would be for the Sheriff’s office to turn their findings over to the County Attorney for prosecution. Evidence would be brought on both sides and a judge should issue a decision.”

My big question is why has Sheriff Arpaio held back from turning over the evidence supporting the “probable cause” of forgery to the Maricopa County Attorney? Is he just waiting to develop even more charges, or more support the the existing charges, or perhaps he needs to work up more evidence to identify suspects to charged with committing the fraud? The impending referral to the County Attorney is hanging fire!

[BerryDingle]

Bennett Backs Off Birther Threat, Apologizes To Arizona

Yup, we'll get every excuse under the sun except an authentic BC. Nothing but lies.

[Brown Deer]

Who knows the names of these children and if any of them were foreign born?

[justiceseeker93]

Looks like the AZ SOS got the same stonewalling from the HI state government that quite a number of private citizens got when they tried to get access to the REAL Obama birth information.

All that Ms. Nagamine seems to be doing is what the Hawaii DOH and AG have done in response to previous requests. I'd describe the Hawaii state government mindset as anal-rententive.

[thecodont]

Yes, talk about stalling. You’d think Bennett was a bill collector and Nagamine was some sort of deadbeat hiding behind the door or leaving the phone unplugged.

On the other hand, that really sort of sums it up, doesn’t it?

[Ladysforest]

Nicely

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks justiceseeker93.

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[Bikkuri]

I think half of them half been ZoTTed since then ;)

[Bikkuri]

I think half of them *have* been ZoTTed since then ;)

[FreeAtlanta]

Some zotted, more converted. I have met a lot of people that have not always been on board with the eligibility issue. The lie was so grand and big, that most people couldn't believe that anyone would fraudulently run for president.

Now, the evidence is so overwhelming that the lie has crumbled. All reasonable people are questioning Obama's history.