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Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history (Mountain Meadows card played)
Washington Post ^ | May 20, 2012 | Sandhya Somashekhar

Posted on 05/21/2012 7:33:28 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

CARROLLTON, Ark. — On the wildflower-studded slopes of the Ozarks, where memories run long and family ties run thick, a little-known and long-ago chapter of history still simmers.

On Sept. 11, 1857, a wagon train from this part of Arkansas met with a gruesome fate in Utah, where most of the travelers were slaughtered by a Mormon militia in an episode known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Hundreds of the victims’ descendants still populate these hills and commemorate the killings, which they have come to call “the first 9/11.”

Many of the locals grew up hearing denunciations of Mormonism from the pulpit on Sundays, and tales of the massacre from older relatives who considered Mormons “evil.”

“There have been Fancher family reunions for 150 years, and the massacre comes up at every one of them,” said Scott Fancher, 58, who traces his lineage back to 26 members of the wagon train, which was known as the Fancher-Baker party. “The more whiskey we drunk, the more resentful we got.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: mormonism; mountainmeadows; romney
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To: .45 Long Colt

Well stated, Colt.


41 posted on 05/21/2012 8:42:39 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Tennessee Nana

YYYAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNNNN!

Obama loves a political system and philosophy which resulted in the starvation of nearly 20,000,000 people in the Ukraine.

Romney just needs to claim to “not have listened” for the past 40 years in Church like Obama.


42 posted on 05/21/2012 8:44:11 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: dirtboy

Why is this “trash hit piece”, all it is doing to exposing mormonism and Romney.
Name something that is incorrect about the information.


43 posted on 05/21/2012 8:44:40 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
I'm sorry, but it clearly a DNC-planted article.

I don't like Romney either. But I'll be damned if I give this kind of crap any credence or legitimacy by running with it. Because tomorrow the sights of the same weapon will be turned on the likes of Scott Walker or Sarah Palin or some other conservative that the MSM/DNC views as the enemy.

44 posted on 05/21/2012 8:50:08 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: svcw

It’s not a trash hit piece. Romney’s cult should be fully exposed for what it is just as Obama’s black liberation cult should be exposed. Shine the light of truth on both.


45 posted on 05/21/2012 9:03:57 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: svcw

Actually the article is pro-Mormons...

If one bothers to read it all, one finds that the author thinks that the poor Mormons were the “persecuted” lot..

“The massacre was an anomaly for the church, because it was Mormons who were more likely to be targeted in the early days of their religion, which was founded in the 1830s and 1840s.

Mormons had been attacked by mobs and forcibly ejected from states. They were viewed as a political threat and targeted for their now-abandoned practice of polygamy.”

and

“Their journey took them through Utah, where a skittish Mormon population had sought refuge from persecution”

and other spots...

and Parley Pratt ???

Why he was an innocent Mormon who was “murdered” and for apparantly no reason...

“Parley Pratt, an ancestor of Romney’s and an esteemed figure in the Mormon Church, was murdered in Arkansas shortly before the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Historians have speculated that anger over this killing may have played a part in the massacre.”

No mention there all all that he was a polygamist who was killed by a very upset husband of the woman he had stolen for a 40th or so extra “wife”..

So this is no “trashy hit piece” ...

this is a very nice piece about the nice wee friendly fuzzy misunderstood and persecuted Mormons...

While the descendants of the murdered Fancher wagon train are made to look nasty and vengengeful...


46 posted on 05/21/2012 9:06:40 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Seizethecarp

Dingy Harry Reid is a Mormon, but nobody ever brings that up!..............


47 posted on 05/21/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Erik Latranyi
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The desperation of using an event that is over 150 years old is quite telling.


Your above "Romney Spin Line" will last about 0.000001 nanoseconds in the Presidential Campaign ...



Perhaps the "silver-lining" message that The Washington Post is (stupidly, as an Obama Propaganda Rag) sending everyone ...

is that by the time Mittens has to apologoze for the galactic laundry list of Mormon racism, cult status, murderous ways ... and Planet Kolob (it's in the constellation Cancer, doncha know) ...

Obama-Axelrod will be able to win the election by simply staying at home watching Three Stooges Movies ...



The "fact" is that EVEN IF Mittens was willing to apologize for all these items ...

he's so (miserablely) inarticulate that Romney would even blotch the apologies ...

even if they were broadcast on Fox News ... and Rush Limbaugh and Shawn Hannity were doing the voice-overs ...



Romey's campaign will make Juan McCain's 2008 run look like Patton's Third Army taking Messina ... or the Marines raising the U.S. Flag on Iwo Jima ...

Hint: See my tagline ...



Bonus Question for you, Erik ...

How does Mittens answer this question in the Presidential Debates, as presented by George Stephanopoulos ...

"Govenor Romney, given that NO ONE one in your family for SEVEN generations has ever served in the U.S. Military ...

and the the Mormon Cult activiely pursued Succession so that they could own Black Slaves and have their Men could have Multiple Wives ...

what gives you the "moral authority" to either serve as Commander in Chief ...

or defend the idea that "Marriage is between one Man and and (only) ONE Woman ...."




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48 posted on 05/21/2012 9:11:22 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
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"Ouch", in advance, Erik ...

Just trying to be sympathetic to your pro-Romney sentiments ...


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49 posted on 05/21/2012 9:14:49 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: Seizethecarp

Sandhya Somashekhar
@sandhyawp
Unlikely National Politics reporter for @WashingtonPost.
Email me at sandhya@washpost.com.

Washington, DC · http://www.washingtonpost.com

http://twitter.com/#!/sandhyawp

50 posted on 05/21/2012 9:34:02 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
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Clearly ... Ms. Sandhya Somashekhar ...

has Mitt Romney "boresighted" ...

and she looks like she wants to win a Pultizer Prize for her "courageous" reporting against Racism and Bigotry Against Women ...

... in a really, really hungry way ...



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51 posted on 05/21/2012 9:42:14 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The desperation of using an event that is over 150 years old is quite telling.

Did you really believe that this would not happen? MittBotts were warned daily on this forum, and it really helps that TokyoRove has proclaimed Rev. Wright is off limits. </sarcasm>

52 posted on 05/21/2012 10:11:46 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: DesertRhino
Mountain Meadows,, mormon atrocity. Ok,,fair enough. Barack is a muslim who follows Marx as much as he can.

Will we be treated to Muslim and Socialist mass murder stories that occurred since the 1840s?

I marvel at how out of touch with reality Romney supporters are. You can find hundreds of posts on this forum telling you exactly how this would play out and yet here you are aghast at to discover they have to audacity to bring this up.

53 posted on 05/21/2012 10:23:32 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: CPT Clay
Washington Post is really going all out for this Prez

Really, they are supporting Obama?
I am Shocked

54 posted on 05/21/2012 10:27:14 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: dirtboy; Tennessee Nana
I simply pointed out that Reid was not mentioned in the article

This may come as a shock to you, but Harry is not running this time.

Any freeper that is shocked by the slime machine coming after Romney over Mormonism is a little out of touch with reality.

55 posted on 05/21/2012 10:47:35 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: dirtboy

You say crap piece, trash, I am asking you what about the article is wrong.


56 posted on 05/21/2012 10:49:06 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: KarlInOhio
Expect hundreds of stories on TV and in newspapers about Mormonism between now and November. No, their release will have absolutely nothing to do with Romney - they'll just be something that people now need to know in 2012 which they didn't need to know in 2011.

Lol!

Also expect liberal Democrat mormons to say absolutely nothing in protest and be exempt from the campaign.

57 posted on 05/21/2012 10:52:29 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: svcw

I’m saying it is a hatchet job against Romney at the behest of the DNC. If you can’t realize that, you are apparently oblivous to years of the MSM doing just that.


58 posted on 05/21/2012 10:55:43 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
But I'll be damned if I give this kind of crap any credence or legitimacy by running with it.

How do you propose to stop it? Maybe if you appeal to WaPo or Newsweak, or Time they will run a picture of Romney with a halo.

Anyone with an IQ above 1 digit knew exactly how this would play out, no after what TokyoRove says.

You have had your bed made for you, now you will have to sleep in it.

If you go back and look when we had nine candidates running, I said then that none of those nine would ever be president, I am sticking with it.

May God have mercy on us.

59 posted on 05/21/2012 10:56:09 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: BO Stinkss
Us southerners don’t cotton to them thar mormon yankees. It’s ok to marry you sister - but not boof of ‘em! /sarc

That was an un-called for ethnic slur worthy of Bill Maher.

I hope you're proud of yourself.

60 posted on 05/21/2012 10:58:37 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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