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Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history (Mountain Meadows card played)
Washington Post ^ | May 20, 2012 | Sandhya Somashekhar

Posted on 05/21/2012 7:33:28 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

CARROLLTON, Ark. — On the wildflower-studded slopes of the Ozarks, where memories run long and family ties run thick, a little-known and long-ago chapter of history still simmers.

On Sept. 11, 1857, a wagon train from this part of Arkansas met with a gruesome fate in Utah, where most of the travelers were slaughtered by a Mormon militia in an episode known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Hundreds of the victims’ descendants still populate these hills and commemorate the killings, which they have come to call “the first 9/11.”

Many of the locals grew up hearing denunciations of Mormonism from the pulpit on Sundays, and tales of the massacre from older relatives who considered Mormons “evil.”

“There have been Fancher family reunions for 150 years, and the massacre comes up at every one of them,” said Scott Fancher, 58, who traces his lineage back to 26 members of the wagon train, which was known as the Fancher-Baker party. “The more whiskey we drunk, the more resentful we got.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: mormonism; mountainmeadows; romney
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Anyone who wanted to leave Utah was hunted down and murdered...men women and children...

Even now skeletons are dug up in old backyards of SLC of whole families..

Murdered for disobeying Young or wanting to leave..”

I agree with all other things you listed, but please cite these three items if you can.. I would like to read up on it. Thanks.


21 posted on 05/21/2012 8:11:57 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: Erik Latranyi
Proving, once again, that the Washington Post (and others) are nothing more than the media arm of the DNC.

You have it backwards. The DNC is the political arm of the Media/Marxist/Higher Ed Axis.

22 posted on 05/21/2012 8:14:45 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Nor is Obama mentioned but it didnt stop your cohorts...

First of all, they do manage to mention Obama. And my cohorts? I'm not the one running with a Wash Post hit piece here. And I am no Mitt supporter. I just don't like using MSM hit pieces on FR to further a particular agenda.

I dont wonder why...

I wonder why anyone on FR would do anything but trash this steaming pantload from the Wash Post.

23 posted on 05/21/2012 8:15:07 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy; Izzy Dunne

Funny, Harry Reid is mentioned nowhere in the article. I wonder why?
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#10 from Izzy Dunne

“Looks like the WashPost’s “religious background research department” is working again.
It seems to be broken for all with a “D” after their name.”

and so I said

“Harry Reids religion is right here...”

Cause Harry has the required “D” and his religion is being mentioned

Oh SNAParoo


24 posted on 05/21/2012 8:15:36 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Seizethecarp

Us southerners don’t cotton to them thar mormon yankees. It’s ok to marry you sister - but not boof of ‘em! /sarc


25 posted on 05/21/2012 8:15:50 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: Tennessee Nana

Harry Reid is not mentioned in this article. Mitt Romney is in the headline. It’s pretty clear to most folks what the agenda is here. I would hope folks could trash an obvious MSM hit piece without making apologies for it like you are attempting to do here with Reid.


26 posted on 05/21/2012 8:17:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

You want someone tellin gthe truth about Willard’s religion to be trashed ???

How are you on truth about Obama ???


27 posted on 05/21/2012 8:17:48 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: svcw

“mormonism does have to do with Romney. Romney’s position in the corporation is significant.”

Exactly. Mormonism defines his very existence. He’s no run-of-the-mill Mormon. He is a direct descendant of some of the earliest Mormon leaders. His family has been prominent in Mormonism from its inception. The Apostle Paul said of himself that he was a “Hebrew of Hebrews.” Well, in much the same way, Romney is a Mormon of Mormons. Many of us were called bigots (likely at the behest of Romney’s campaign) for saying this would be an issue for Romney.

I’m hooked on the horns of a dilemma. I want Obama out of the Oval Office with every fiber of my being, but my conscience tells me I cannot support a man whose presidency would certainly lead to further spread of his soul-damning heretical religion. Mormons are lost sinners trusting in a false gospel and I want nothing to do with any efforts to norm a stoneage cult.


28 posted on 05/21/2012 8:19:36 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: dirtboy

again Obama is not mentioned in the article either...

But that didnt stop the RomneyBots...

What are you lot ???

Comic relief for us poor abused Conservatives ???


29 posted on 05/21/2012 8:19:39 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Uh, please point out where I have EVER said anything positive about Obama - to the contrary, I despite what he is and stands for.

Man, you really are pathetic here. You are attempting to trash me for daring to point out the obvious - that this is clearly an MSM hit piece. I see the MSM/DNC axis as a much more serious threat to this country than Romney. Granted, Romney can be pretty bad and still be less of a threat than the MSM - which is the case - but I still save my largest-caliber fire towards the bastards in the MSM who have no problem with lying by omission - and they omitted Reid's name from this article.

30 posted on 05/21/2012 8:21:46 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: KarlInOhio
"hundreds of stories on TV and in the newspapers."

This subject has been covered by history books and TV documentaries.

Go to YouTube where there are numerous clips.

31 posted on 05/21/2012 8:21:54 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: dirtboy

. I would hope folks could trash an obvious MSM hit piece without making apologies for it
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Likewise I would hope folks could trash an obvious Mormon hit piece on Christians without making apologies for it


32 posted on 05/21/2012 8:22:20 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana
again Obama is not mentioned in the article either...

Yes, he is. Try reading the whole thing, if that isn't too much of a distraction from your efforts to slime me.

33 posted on 05/21/2012 8:22:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Tennessee Nana
Likewise I would hope folks could trash an obvious Mormon hit piece on Christians without making apologies for it

Uh, please point out in this article where it is such. Assuming, of course, that you could be bothered to read it.

34 posted on 05/21/2012 8:24:06 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Kid youre forgeting...

It was you who dumped on me...

I never posted to you first...

Now if you dont want me to further have to defend myself against your RomneyBot attacks, leave off...

For every one of your unflattering posts to me going back for years, I have answered with distain..

I dont think Ive ever told a FReeper not to post to me...

I just wont put up with abuse...

Post away to your hearts content..

Just not defensive lies about your boy Willard..

and dont go sending me any FReepMail..


35 posted on 05/21/2012 8:28:39 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: dirtboy

your efforts to slime me.
_________________________________

LOL

Kid is that even possible....


36 posted on 05/21/2012 8:30:24 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Seizethecarp

Obama’s religion of “Liberation Theology” sprinkled with Islam and Marxism is off the table, according to Romney. Hard to understand why he would take such a step knowing that Mormanism was going to be a major attack point on him (Romney).


37 posted on 05/21/2012 8:32:52 AM PDT by flyover
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To: dirtboy

Likewise I would hope folks could trash an obvious Mormon hit piece on Christians without making apologies for it
Uh, please point out in this article where it is such. Assuming, of course, that you could be bothered to read it.
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“On Sept. 11, 1857, a wagon train from this part of Arkansas met with a gruesome fate in Utah, where most of the travelers were slaughtered by a Mormon militia in an episode known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre.”


38 posted on 05/21/2012 8:33:41 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Now if you dont want me to further have to defend myself against your RomneyBot attacks, leave off..

Romneybot attacks? Cripes, you really are more pathetic with each passing post.

I simply pointed out that Reid was not mentioned in the article and you have turned that into a claim that I dumped on you. If the truth is dumping, then you really have a problem. And I am NO Romneybot. You will never find me posting anything favorable about Romney. I just see the MSM/DNC axis as the greatest danger to this country's core values. The GOP-E and the Romney campaign aren't far behind, but the MSM goons have been doing this long before Romney came on the scene and they will continue to keep up their propaganda until they are driven into the ground by counterattacks. You may like their attacks on Romney, but it never stops there - ask Sarah Palin. I am NOT trying to defend Romney, just instead standing off the MSM slime machine which will be turned on a conservative tomorrow.

So go ahead. Run with their spin. It apparently is making you dizzy.

39 posted on 05/21/2012 8:34:19 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Tennessee Nana

Please explain to me how that sentence of historical fac t represents a Mormon hit piece on Christians. I’m waiting.


40 posted on 05/21/2012 8:38:34 AM PDT by dirtboy
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