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Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history (Mountain Meadows card played)
Washington Post ^ | May 20, 2012 | Sandhya Somashekhar

Posted on 05/21/2012 7:33:28 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

CARROLLTON, Ark. — On the wildflower-studded slopes of the Ozarks, where memories run long and family ties run thick, a little-known and long-ago chapter of history still simmers.

On Sept. 11, 1857, a wagon train from this part of Arkansas met with a gruesome fate in Utah, where most of the travelers were slaughtered by a Mormon militia in an episode known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Hundreds of the victims’ descendants still populate these hills and commemorate the killings, which they have come to call “the first 9/11.”

Many of the locals grew up hearing denunciations of Mormonism from the pulpit on Sundays, and tales of the massacre from older relatives who considered Mormons “evil.”

“There have been Fancher family reunions for 150 years, and the massacre comes up at every one of them,” said Scott Fancher, 58, who traces his lineage back to 26 members of the wagon train, which was known as the Fancher-Baker party. “The more whiskey we drunk, the more resentful we got.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: mormonism; mountainmeadows; romney
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The interent, with its instant dissemination of validated historical narratives at odds with Mormon orthodoxy, is not kind to this uniguely American religion, and not helpful to any boost in Mormon membership that has been fearfully anticipated by some to result from a Romney presidency,IMO.
1 posted on 05/21/2012 7:33:38 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
Expect hundreds of stories on TV and in newspapers about Mormonism between now and November. No, their release will have absolutely nothing to do with Romney - they'll just be something that people now need to know in 2012 which they didn't need to know in 2011.
2 posted on 05/21/2012 7:40:40 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Seizethecarp
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They're just warming up ...

This is still the "Methodist Ladies Christmas Tea" stage ...



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3 posted on 05/21/2012 7:41:26 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: KarlInOhio

mormonism does have to do with Romney. Romney’s position in the corporation is significant.
His position is held because he adheres to the belief structure.
Romney is who he is because of his mormonism not in spite of it.


4 posted on 05/21/2012 7:47:11 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: KarlInOhio
Expect hundreds of stories on TV and in newspapers about Mormonism between now and November.

Proving, once again, that the Washington Post (and others) are nothing more than the media arm of the DNC.

The desperation of using an event that is over 150 years old is quite telling.

5 posted on 05/21/2012 7:47:35 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Seizethecarp

not helpful to any boost in Mormon membership
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Its the Mormon doctrines and tenets that are not acceptable to many...

Mormons are leaving the religion in droves as they find out more of the beliefs...

Mormonism doesnt line up with the Bible for a reason...

Joey Smith the inventor of Mormonism hated Christians and Christianity...

He deliberately chose to include beliefs that were opposite and blasphemeous to the Ten Commandments and the teachings of the LORD Jesus Christ...

Leaders of Mormonism who followed him built on Smith’s errors by adding further heresies..

Joey Smith was a lazy good-for-nothing and occultist..

He wanted wine, women and song and wealth and easy street and power over others...

He found that religion and superstition was one of the fastest ways to seperate suckers from their money and property and to seduce young girls to give into his sexual lusts....

Most new converts and even Mormon born into the cult dont know about the evil history of the early days..

Until they died several proprets and leaders of Mormonism were still living in sin as polygamists right up to the mid 20th Century..

They were still “marrying” more “wives” up till at least 1920+

Decades after Utah became a state..

The 1890 “proclamation” meant nothing to them..

The Fancher party were not the only Christians that Brigham Young murdered..

Salt Lake City was a Gulug a theocratic prison during Youngs reign...

Anyone who wanted to leave Utah was hunted down and murdered...men women and children...

Even now skeletons are dug up in old backyards of SLC of whole families..

Murdered for disobeying Young or wanting to leave..


6 posted on 05/21/2012 7:50:59 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Seizethecarp

So?

Did everyone—or anyone—expect a slew of glowing reports about Mormons in the MSM?

Everyone knew this was coming.


7 posted on 05/21/2012 7:51:41 AM PDT by moonhawk (Rush, Mark, Sean: Conservative talkers. Sarah, Newt: Conservative DOers. Mitt: Conservative faker)
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To: Seizethecarp

Mountain Meadows,, mormon atrocity. Ok,,fair enough. Barack is a muslim who follows Marx as much as he can.

Will we be treated to Muslim and Socialist mass murder stories that occurred since the 1840s?

Interesting too,,,we can discuss mountain meadows, which nothing but a goober would walk around personally outraged about in 2012. But, we cant talk about Islamic atrocities happening in the last decade, or even the last year.


8 posted on 05/21/2012 7:55:16 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Seizethecarp
And yet, there is scant evidence that Romney’s religion is making much difference in how voters here are thinking about the presidential election and whether they are willing to back the former Massachusetts governor.

That's because this is a fallen nation where Christianity is headed out the door. The utopian/secularism is becoming the religion of choice now a days.

9 posted on 05/21/2012 7:55:31 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Seizethecarp
Looks like the WashPost's "religious background research department" is working again.

It seems to be broken for all with a "D" after their name.

10 posted on 05/21/2012 7:57:55 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

It seems to be broken for all with a “D” after their name.
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No

Harry Reids religion is right here...


11 posted on 05/21/2012 7:59:07 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that these WaPo writers among others are being fed this stuff from Axelrod. This is how the Obama campaign will say that religion is off limits and they won’t attack Romney’s religion knowing full well these news outlets will be negative stories concerning the history of Mormonism.


12 posted on 05/21/2012 8:00:49 AM PDT by PizzaTheHut
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To: greyfoxx39

HEY !!!

Wheres my Oh SNAP award ???

:)


13 posted on 05/21/2012 8:00:49 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: PizzaTheHut

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that these WaPo writers among others are being fed this stuff from Axelrod
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AH No

They get it from Smith...


14 posted on 05/21/2012 8:02:07 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Seizethecarp

Washington Post is really going all out for this Prez


15 posted on 05/21/2012 8:05:53 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: moonhawk
So? Did everyone—or anyone—expect a slew of glowing reports about Mormons in the MSM? Everyone knew this was coming.

Yep - expect the Obama side to replace Islam with Mormonism as the greatest threat the world has ever seen...

16 posted on 05/21/2012 8:07:27 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: PizzaTheHut

This info does not have to come from Axerod, it can come from mormon historical documents, internet searches, history books, their “religious” writings..........the internet has made it easy to expose mormonism for what it is.
The information is all there.


17 posted on 05/21/2012 8:08:15 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: DesertRhino

Mountain Meadows,, mormon atrocity. Ok,,fair enough. Barack is a muslim
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Actually youre right...

Obama does belong here in this story...

Hes the 1st Mormon president...

His Momma Stanley Ann Dunham was dead dunked into Mormonism in June 2008..

Then she was “endowed” with full temple honors and “sealed” to her children making them full temple Mormons too...

According to the Mormons and their doctrines they now have their first Mormon president...

Oh and theres no way to undunk the dead dunked...

or unseal the dead errr sealed...

Oh SNAP

(This is turning into one big SNAPpy thread...)


18 posted on 05/21/2012 8:08:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Harry Reids religion is right here...

Funny, Harry Reid is mentioned nowhere in the article. I wonder why?

19 posted on 05/21/2012 8:09:39 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Nor is Obama mentioned but it didnt stop your cohorts...

I dont wonder why...


20 posted on 05/21/2012 8:11:33 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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