Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history (Mountain Meadows card played)

Washington Post ^ | May 20, 2012 | Sandhya Somashekhar

[Seizethecarp]

CARROLLTON, Ark. — On the wildflower-studded slopes of the Ozarks, where memories run long and family ties run thick, a little-known and long-ago chapter of history still simmers.

On Sept. 11, 1857, a wagon train from this part of Arkansas met with a gruesome fate in Utah, where most of the travelers were slaughtered by a Mormon militia in an episode known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Hundreds of the victims’ descendants still populate these hills and commemorate the killings, which they have come to call “the first 9/11.”

Many of the locals grew up hearing denunciations of Mormonism from the pulpit on Sundays, and tales of the massacre from older relatives who considered Mormons “evil.”

“There have been Fancher family reunions for 150 years, and the massacre comes up at every one of them,” said Scott Fancher, 58, who traces his lineage back to 26 members of the wagon train, which was known as the Fancher-Baker party. “The more whiskey we drunk, the more resentful we got.”

[Elsie]

You say crap piece, trash, I am asking you what about the article is wrong.

The timing.

--MormonDude(We want OUR man to at LEAST get the nomination. It'll look good on our resume.)

[Elsie]

Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

April 21st, 2012

URGENT!

Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!

 

Hot diggity dog; our boy has MADE it!!

Now beware; for the media is gonna be on us like... well; you know the saying.

I've been getting lots of feedback from those of you on Free Republic (spit) about a certain ELSIE (or something like that), who is REALLY giving us a hard time there!

 

Why not try to point out to the uninformed how OBSESSED he seems to be.

 

Let's see if we can tangle him up so much trying to defend his reputation

that he'll no longer have as much time to post facts about MORMONism.

 

As always, Tommy M.  

 

(Keep pressing that we are CHRISTIAN and avoid anything MORMON like the DEVIL!!)

[Elsie]

I’m saying it is a hatchet job against Romney at the behest of the DNC.

I agree.

Now what?

It WILL not stop!

[Elsie]

What I DO expect is for FReepers to not give this crap any credence and to instead condemn it as a blatant partisan attack.

Oh, some will.

But others; like me; won't.

The first bunch are focused on our 'NATION' and how best to fix it - POLITICALLY.

While I am saying the problem is NOT political; but SPIRITUAL. I'm looking to ETERNITY and trying to get the souls of men (and women) to avoid being sucked into the maw of MORMONism.

---

These two disparate groups will NOT be reconciled.

[Elsie]

The last time I looked, this is still the United States of America where we respect each other's faith and do not attack the beliefs within that faith.

 

 

Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

November 1st, 2011

The message for this month is -

Primaries are coming up REAL soon; so we MUST stay on our mantra:

        We are NOT electing a pastor/pope, but a PRESIDENT!!

We've been taking a beating on the Internet - especially from those hateful ANTIs on FreeRepublic!

We MUST keep the media constantly informed of those things the world considers christian.

We must NOT allow our MORMONness to show thru, as it has gotten a really bad rap thru history - lord only knows why...

Tommy

[dirtboy]

But others; like me; won't.

Well, as I told someone else, I see the DNC/MSM axis as a much graver threat to this country than Mormons. It's clear you disagree and are more than glad to roll in this Wash Post dog turd.

Not that I'm surprised.

[Elsie]

Because who gives a damn about an event that occured in 1857, before the Civil War, and how the hell Romney has anything to do with this?

Because who gives a damn about an event that occured in 2001, before the Afghan War, and what the hell does OBAMA have to do with this?

[Elsie]

Mitt will be a fine President. The Lord will take of it.

Obama will be a fine President. The Lord will take of it.

[Elsie]

RomneyBot the doings of the Mormon god or gods might be directed by men...

(click)

Praise to the Man!

 

 

 

Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

[Elsie]

... I see the DNC/MSM axis as a much graver threat to this country than Mormons.

And is that not EXACTLY what I just said?

It would seem to me, that if a person was 'really' all this worried about our beloved country; they'd be pounding away at the folks who will be attending the RNC; making SURE that ROMNEY is NOT the republican nominee!

[Elsie]

... I see the DNC/MSM axis as a much graver threat to this country than Mormons.

And is that not EXACTLY what I just said?

It would seem to me, that if a person was 'really' all this worried about our beloved country; they'd be pounding away at the folks who will be attending the RNC; making SURE that ROMNEY is NOT the republican nominee!

[dirtboy]

And is that not EXACTLY what I just said?

Uh, no, elsie, it's not. Despite any attempts to the contrary by you to spin your stance.

Do you ever bash on the MSM on FR? On the lack of vetting by Obama by the MSM?

It's telling that you are joining the MSM in raising concerns about an event over 150 years ago, but saying nothing about the irony of their failure to give anything remotely resembling scrutiny to Obama's own record.

Which means I have little time to waste with a pinhead like you.

Oh, and BTW, it was a no-brainer to predict this would happen. Doesn't mean anyone on FR should give it any credence.

[dirtboy]

It would seem to me, that if a person was 'really' all this worried about our beloved country; they'd be pounding away at the folks who will be attending the RNC; making SURE that ROMNEY is NOT the republican nominee!

Well, elsie, that was my position all along about Romney. And Romney still looks like the winner of the GOP nomination.

And I don't support him at all. But I'll be damned if I ever cut the MSM an inch of slack for their double-standards on vetting and reporting.

If that is too hard for you and your co-horts to grasp, well, go right back to your anti-Mormon doctrinal posts. I prefer to keep front towards the real enemy.

[jveritas]

You are talking too much gibberish and making an analogy that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Your hate for Romney is blinding you for even speaking like a normal perosn. The same goes for the many Romney haters on this site.

[Deb]

Fortunately, no one pays any attention to your insane ranting... especially not God. Your hysterical shrieking about God vs. Mormons would be laughable if it wasn’t so blasphemous.

[Deb]

God loves Mormons as much as he loves you members of the Westboro Church. At least Mormons don't get spit all over their monitors.

[Elsie]

The first bunch are focused on our 'NATION' and how best to fix it - POLITICALLY.

 

... I see the DNC/MSM axis as a much graver threat to this country than Mormons.

 

 

I guess YOUR definition of EXACT is a bit different than mine.

[Elsie]

It's telling that you are joining the MSM in raising concerns about an event over 150 years ago, but saying nothing about the irony of their failure to give anything remotely resembling scrutiny to Obama's own record.

I've got e-mail (most rational folks do) and I get PLENTY of stuff DAILY telling me about OBAMA; but hardly anything at ALL telling about MORMONism.

I intend to rectify that disparity.

I know you don't like me, my tactics or anything that vaguely convinces you that something is not 100% anti-Obama.

I'm fine with that - work YOUR side of the street and I'll work mine.

[Elsie]

I prefer to keep front towards the real enemy.

Good!

We need all the help we can get!

---

1 Peter 5:8 >>
Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

[Elsie]

And ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free.

John 8:32