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Judge rules Wisconsin public union members must opt in on dues
JSOnline via twincities.com ^ | 5/18/12 | Patrick Marley

Posted on 05/19/2012 4:37:34 PM PDT by Jean S

MADISON, Wis. -- State unions were dealt a setback Friday when a federal judge said they would have to get their members to opt in, rather than opt out, to having the state deduct union dues from their paychecks.

What's more, the judge did not rule on dues deductions for unions that he earlier found the state improperly decertified. The state's largest unions were decertified, and the ruling -- at least for now -- will make it harder for them to get money from dues.

But U.S. District Court Judge William Conley gave unions one beneficial ruling by saying that members who sign up to have their dues deducted from their paychecks can be required to make a yearlong commitment. That will help unions budget because they can better know how much money they will be getting, attorneys for the unions said.

Friday's rulings came as part of a union challenge to a new law, championed by Gov. Scott Walker and other Republicans, that all but ended collective bargaining for most public workers. Conley gave the unions a partial victory in March when he ruled aspects of the new law were unconstitutional.

Specifically, he struck down a part of the law that said unions had to be recertified annually by getting a majority of all potential members to vote to keep a union, rather than simply a majority of those voting. He also struck down a provision that barred the state from deducting dues from the paychecks of those who chose to join unions.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; dues; judge; members; milwaukee; opt; optin; optout; public; publicemployees; rules; scottwalker; standwithwalker; tombarrett; union; unioncorruption; uniondues; unions; unionthugs; walker; williamconley; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
Awesome news!
1 posted on 05/19/2012 4:37:40 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S
He also struck down a provision that barred the state from deducting dues from the paychecks of those who chose to join unions.

This needs to be appealed if it hasn't been already. This should not be allowed to continue, not only in Wisconsin, but anywhere in this country, IMO.
2 posted on 05/19/2012 4:46:15 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Jean S

Your headline is misleading.
It reads as if the members have no choice.


3 posted on 05/19/2012 4:47:21 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Jean S

That’s no set back for union thugs.

You in?
No

WHACK, BAM, WHACK!

You in?
ok


4 posted on 05/19/2012 4:47:41 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Good point, it’s not as awesome as I originally thought.


5 posted on 05/19/2012 4:49:16 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: AlexW

You’re right but I didn’t write the headline.


6 posted on 05/19/2012 4:51:40 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: AlexW
Your headline is misleading.

You got that right!

I at first thought that Jean S was pro union!

7 posted on 05/19/2012 4:53:40 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Pox
It seems like a reasonable half-way measure to me. The dues would only be deducted, from those who chose to allow the deductions. That sounds no different than (voluntary) payroll deductions for charitable donations.
8 posted on 05/19/2012 4:55:16 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: TribalPrincess2U
You in?
No

WHACK, BAM, WHACK!

Two to the body and one to the head.

Wisconsin now has right to carry laws for self defense.

9 posted on 05/19/2012 4:57:01 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Jean S
State unions were dealt a setback Friday when a federal judge said they would have to get their members to opt in, rather than opt out, to having the state deduct union dues from their paychecks.

Sweet!

Suck it you union thugs!

10 posted on 05/19/2012 4:59:36 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Jean S

everything should be opt-in, not opt-out.


11 posted on 05/19/2012 5:01:16 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Pox
If ANY entity can forcibly take money from an individual for services not rendered that is total BS.

It's just like property taxes paid for school districts for education when many privately educate their children or home school.

Years ago when I hired on to the railroad I opted out of the union and was informed by my boss that if I refused to join he had no choice but to replace me and send me home.

Creeping tyranny.

12 posted on 05/19/2012 5:03:29 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: GeronL; afraidfortherepublic

There are several lawsuits pending regarding this, all filed in Madison courts of course. The most important imo is the requirement that the state government has to deduct the dues from paychecks and send the money to the unions. This judge didn’t address that.

There are so many cases pending in Dane county (Madison) that I can’t keep them all straight.


13 posted on 05/19/2012 5:10:02 PM PDT by Jean S
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Keep FR Running
Let's get to Yellow!

14 posted on 05/19/2012 5:10:31 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Pox

Make a state law prohibiting the use of state funds, personnel, or computers for the purpose of collecting or distributing union dues.


15 posted on 05/19/2012 5:16:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Jean S

Union dues should be paid BY THE MEMBER after they cash their checks.


16 posted on 05/19/2012 5:20:15 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“That’s no set back for union thugs.

You in?
No

WHACK, BAM, WHACK!

You in?
ok”


That’s how/why I joined the IAM. Thugs, all.


17 posted on 05/19/2012 5:42:02 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (The response to 1984 is 1776.)
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To: GeronL

“everything should be opt-in, not opt-out.”

And the only info available to the union should be the $ in dues paid, not who paid the money.


18 posted on 05/19/2012 5:44:00 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (The response to 1984 is 1776.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

heh, thanks Jean S.


19 posted on 05/19/2012 8:20:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jean S; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

Wisconsin judge rules on unions

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


20 posted on 05/19/2012 9:33:02 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: EGPWS

>If ANY entity can forcibly take money from an individual for services not rendered that is total BS.
>It’s just like property taxes paid for school districts for education when many privately educate their children or home school.

Or social security...


21 posted on 05/20/2012 11:23:07 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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