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Fox News Analyst: First American To Shoot Down A Domestic Spy Drone 'Will Become A Folk Hero'
Business Insider ^ | 5/15/2012 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 05/15/2012 1:38:34 PM PDT by JohnKinAK

Charles Krauthammer, the conservative columnist spoke about the use of drones for domestic spying last night.

He blasted the idea:

"A drone is a high-tech version of an old army. It ought to be used in Somalia to hunt bad guys but not in America. Yes you can say we have satellites, we have Google Street, we have everything else, but that is no reason to accept a society where you are always watched by the government.

"I would predict the first guy who uses a second amendment weapon to bring a drone down who is hovering over his house will become a folk hero."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-analyst-first-american-to-shoot-down-a-domestic-spy-drone-will-become-a-folk-hero-2012-5#ixzz1uyNlHG00

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012election; banglist; cwii; dontspyonme; donttreadonme; drone; election2012; kenyanbornmuzzie; krauthammer; lping; mittromney; shoot
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To: Bob Buchholz
From another Freeper link, by JohnKinAK, quoting a comment on the article here:

Shoot down of civilian 'animal rights drone' by Hunt Club.

"There was a time when a R/C Club used to get up on Sundays at the crack of dawn and fly noisy Radio Controlled Airplanes right over my house where I was trying to sleep in. Being a peaceful person who had asked the R/C/ Club to just fly the Airplanes in the other direction at least until I was awake I handled the problem just like a peaceful person would.

I went to a Hobby Store and bought the most powerful R/C controller with a handful of the frequency chips that you could swap out in seconds. Each time a Radio Controlled Aircraft buzzed directly over my house I got the controller. With the swiftness of a sniper, I simply used the R/C controller by swapping out the chips until got the frequency of the buzzing airplane, took control and flew it out of site over the woods never to be found again. It only took three aircraft losses to be able to sleep in on Sundays. All peaceful. All legal. Anyone listening??


101 posted on 05/15/2012 8:12:21 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Pox

Let the arms race begin.


102 posted on 05/15/2012 8:17:09 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: JohnKinAK

Smartest thing I’ve heard Charles say in a long time.


103 posted on 05/15/2012 8:24:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Solve two problems at once. Hack into them and direct them to crash into red light cameras.


104 posted on 05/15/2012 8:27:20 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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To: omega4179
"Or foul the frequency with noise..."

I'm guessing they probably operate on a SINGCGARS radio, which frequency hops 111 times x second. I would think if one were to be brought down, it will be done by a hacker. Given the operational altitude of these things, there's probably very little the average citizen can do, although if it's known where they're taking off and landing from, something along these lines may hae some promise, albeit a quite expensive one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMvGHxS_yDQ&feature=related

105 posted on 05/15/2012 8:41:04 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: JohnKinAK

He’ll become a DEAD folk hero or an imprisoned folk hero.


106 posted on 05/15/2012 8:56:11 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: JohnKinAK
Here's the problem: most of these new surveillance drones are physically very small with muffled engines that are painted to blend in with the sky, and if they're flying at over 2,000 feet in altitude, they'll be almost impossible to physically see one without the aid of binoculars. Unless you have a real AA machine gun mount, you can forget about shooting one down.
107 posted on 05/15/2012 9:02:08 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: MrB

See thru walls with infrared... not easy to hide from that.


108 posted on 05/15/2012 9:14:25 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office north of Houston has one. Lots of cities, and I mean small cities, have them compliments of Homeland Security. The question is “who” is flying them. I doubt some deputy sheriffs have the training.

What really scares me is we’ve always thought the county sheriffs would stand with the people. Not so sure anymore. They like those toys they get from the government.


109 posted on 05/15/2012 9:15:29 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: JohnKinAK
A better watch is at the Fox News web site at about 5:00 seconds. He said - and this is THE "money" quote:

"It's going to be the bane of our existence. Stop it here. Stop it now."

Debate over using drones to monitor American cities

Boy, I've had my differences of opinion on constitutional authority with Mr. Krauthammer, but, he NAILD THIS ISSUE dead to right!

110 posted on 05/15/2012 9:40:58 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
"See Through Walls Technology Xaver"

Yep, it's like Google Sat today vs what has been available for about 30 years in the military.

I worked at Texas Instruments in the early 80's (the inventor of semiconductors among other digital technologies). My ex military compatriots told me they could see the nose hairs of targets from their optics.

111 posted on 05/15/2012 10:11:00 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: RandallFlagg

i don’t need any of this working class hero bullshit!

that’s when i threw hooper overboard chiefy.

thanks for the laugh.


112 posted on 05/15/2012 10:39:56 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Balloons tethered at different altitudes for long periods of time, painted sky colors, design a lightweight web made from high strength fibers like Spectra. Or just dangle streamers. Something to snare a propeller.

Just do some research about barrage balloons during WW2.

But if I wanted to shoot one down I might design a super air cannon flak gun loaded with paint balls, paint the optics at the very least. Do a search on the Punkin Chunkin air cannons, any redneck with a truck, a scrap yard and a welder can make one.

last but not least fly an Iranian flag, Obama will send you a drone for free.


113 posted on 05/16/2012 1:02:42 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: JohnKinAK

I'm your Huckleberry. That's just my game.

114 posted on 05/16/2012 1:15:41 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Political Junkie Too
36 posted on Tue May 15 2012 16:27:16 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Political Junkie Too: “Drones are military equipment. Isn't it a violation of Posse Comitatus to use drones over the United States against its citizens?”

Not if you give or sell it to the National Guard or civilian police agencies.

There are perfectly legitimate reasons to use drones. I can think of a specific situation in my county in which the use of a drone ended a standoff with an estranged husband who had shot and wounded a police officer after he failed to kill his wife and then barricaded himself in his wife's property after she escaped. At the time I was asked not to report on the use of the technology since it was not yet widely known what our forces were doing in Iraq and Afghanistan with high-tech surveillance equipment, but that's now widespread public knowledge.

There are also search-and-rescue situations where virtually everyone would believe drones are good because they save lives.

If you can see it from a plane, you can see it from a drone, and there's no legal barrier to using one.

After seeing just a small portion of the surveillance technology available to the federal government used in that shooter standoff situation, I think it's fair to say that their capabilities are far greater than what our enemies know.

Of course, not all things which are legal are a good idea and I share the concerns of a number of people on this thread about government surveillance. This is question of what the government **SHOULD** be doing, not what it legally **CAN** be doing.

115 posted on 05/16/2012 3:17:56 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: HiTech RedNeck; All

I like the idea of using old technology to thwart overflights by these intruders...

The Brits had it right idea during the Blitz back in the day...

Just tie up a bunch of balloons with lightweight cables or even heavy fishing tackle line...

Should do the trick...

Then all you guys with the heavy artillery can save a little ammo in the mean time...

Just a thought...;-)


116 posted on 05/16/2012 4:19:50 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I Occupy the Gun Range!!!)
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To: dfwgator

That lyric could almost work for the tune, “If I were a Rich Man!”, from “Fiddler On the Roof” fame...

Now I’m never gonna get that tune outta muh head today!!! Uggghhhh!!!


117 posted on 05/16/2012 4:22:09 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I Occupy the Gun Range!!!)
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To: papertyger; Travis McGee

Now thats a frugal FReeper!!!

Simple, elegant and downright genius!!!

Whats the reception range of an Airhog???

I know they sell some upsized knockoffs at some kiosks in the malls around the country that could do the same thing...I think their range is only about a couple hundred feet though...


118 posted on 05/16/2012 4:27:45 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I Occupy the Gun Range!!!)
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To: JohnKinAK
Or missing...
119 posted on 05/16/2012 4:28:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JerseyanExile; All

Party pooper!!!


120 posted on 05/16/2012 4:31:11 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I Occupy the Gun Range!!!)
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