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This May Be The Most Disastrous-Looking Poll For Obama Yet
Business Insider ^ | 05/15/2012 | Brett LoGiurato

Posted on 05/15/2012 7:02:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The new CBS/New York Times poll out last evening is, on the surface, the biggest disaster for the Barack Obama campaign at this point in the 2012 election.

Down overall? Check. Voters frustrated with the economy and how things are going? Check. Gay marriage endorsement backfire? Check.

But this might be the worst underlier of all: Obama is even losing among women.

Now, before we delve deeper, we should point out the funky methodology that has some — ranging on the spectrum from the Obama campaign to the National Journal — questioning how the results hold up.

This is a "panel-back" survey — the same voters were polled this time as were polled in mid-April. Only 562 of the original 856 registered voters re-responded to the poll this time around.

Still, the poll oversamples Democrats — among registered voters, the sample pool is composed of 36 percent Democrats, 34 percent Independents and 30 percent Republicans.

Romney's overall lead stands at 46 percent to 43 percent. Last month, the two candidates were deadlocked. There are a few underliers that spell disaster for Barack Obama. First is the women vote. What the heck happened here? Last month, Obama led among women by 6 percentage points. In this poll, he's trailing Romney by 2 points in the women's vote. It's an even bigger shift when you consider other surveys, like last month's CNN poll that found Obama destroying Romney among women by 16 points.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; bho2012; obama; poll; romney; womensvote
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1 posted on 05/15/2012 7:03:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Rightly so for a disastrous President, dictator wannabe.


2 posted on 05/15/2012 7:05:05 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wait for Obama to start throwin’ around trillions in walkin’
around money!


3 posted on 05/15/2012 7:05:11 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem is, obama hasn’t even started to fight yet.


4 posted on 05/15/2012 7:05:11 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama’s defeat will be so large that no amount of voter fraud will be able to overcome it.


5 posted on 05/15/2012 7:05:22 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: isthisnickcool

From your mouth to God’s ear!


6 posted on 05/15/2012 7:09:27 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: isthisnickcool
Obama’s defeat will be so large that no amount of voter fraud will be able to overcome it.

We all hope so.

Re: women: I think Obama has lost the "cool" factor that had many women swooning over him.

7 posted on 05/15/2012 7:09:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: isthisnickcool

I agree, everything points to a huge defeat for not only Obama, but any incumbents up for re-election as well.


8 posted on 05/15/2012 7:09:59 AM PDT by AmonAmarth (Wherever you go...There you are)
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To: isthisnickcool

Don’t count your votes until they’re cast.

The New Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, SEIU and all their cohorts in crime can muster a lot of muscle in the right areas to either scare away white voters or bus in large numbers of illegal voters...............


9 posted on 05/15/2012 7:10:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: isthisnickcool

I know several folks who bought his lies and voted for him. They are all voting AGAINST him this time around. “Anybody but Obama.” is what they are saying.


10 posted on 05/15/2012 7:11:27 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Dr. Ursus

11 posted on 05/15/2012 7:12:02 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: isthisnickcool

It will have to be a landslide.
Since 2000, democRats do NOT lose close elections (eg: Franken).


12 posted on 05/15/2012 7:12:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Red Badger

They won’t scare this white voter.


13 posted on 05/15/2012 7:13:56 AM PDT by gawatchman
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To: Linda Frances
Wait till women hear about the Republicans' war on women, that Obama will give them free birth control pills, that Rush Limbaugh called someone a slut, and that Paul Ryan will throw granny off the cliff.

Four years of incessant namecalling and fear-mongering. Do enough people want 4 more years of the same for Obama to win?

14 posted on 05/15/2012 7:14:00 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: PapaBear3625

I know, but I may be wrong, that the pollsters understand that “women” is not a demographic.

In order to make it meaningful, “women” must be separated into married and single/divorced.

Maybe that separation exposes too much truth.
This is often the reason for not digging deeper - the truth is not PC.


15 posted on 05/15/2012 7:14:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Linda Frances
The problem is, obama hasn’t even started to fight yet.

The Obama administration, believing all of the fawning media hype about him, has become completely tone deaf to the concerns of the average American.

He will be his own worst enemy as this campaign progresses, and each time he reacts to poll numbers by trying a new announcement of some "new" social program, he will further irritate the majority of American voters.

His only chance in this election is the candidate he will be opposing isn't much better.

16 posted on 05/15/2012 7:14:38 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Linda Frances
re: The problem is, obama hasn’t even started to fight yet.

The good news is, Obama can't fight at all. He has had everyone changing his "C's" to "A's" his whole life, as Rush puts it. I'd say that Obama never failed to walk through a door that someone else held open for him.

Have you noticed that he gives about one press conference a year?

He can't script everything, every time.

I'm starting to really look forward to him having to make appearances in less than friendly venues.

17 posted on 05/15/2012 7:14:38 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Linda Frances

True he’s got a huge war chest, but his problem is he’s been defined, and he stinks of failure.


18 posted on 05/15/2012 7:16:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: LeonardFMason

Same here. Most of the obama voters I know will either be sitting out or voting for Romney. I cannot see any way bambi can get them back. He has been a complete failure as president, made worse by his now open support for gay marriage.


19 posted on 05/15/2012 7:18:40 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Mamzelle

“I’m starting to really look forward to him having to make appearances in less than friendly venues.”
If and when he does visit an unfriendly venue (doubtful with everything scripted and populated carefully) there is about ZERO chance that the MSM will show it. With a compliant and supporting media even accidents and mistakes are ok, especially when a minor gaffe by your opponent is run 24 hrs a day for days on end.


20 posted on 05/15/2012 7:19:36 AM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: Linda Frances

—The problem is, obama hasn’t even started to fight yet.—

I’m not worried. He, as well as his handlers, are so incompetent that I suspect most of their fighting will do more harm than good.

I’m NOT a Romney fan, but I’d love him to let this pandering to women go on a bit longer and then Romney, at a primarily female venue, gives a speech saying, very quitly, “I don’t want to disappoint some of yuo, but I am not the ‘women’s’ candidate.” Then, slowly increasing volume, “I am not the men’s candidate. I am not the african american’s candidate. I am not the white’s candidate and I am not the hispanic’s candidate. I am the AMERICAN’S candidate. ARE YOU AN AMERICAN?”


21 posted on 05/15/2012 7:20:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

“THEN I AM YOUR CANDIDATE!”


22 posted on 05/15/2012 7:21:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: gawatchman

Maybe not you, in particular, but many can be intimidated to not show up simply for the rumor of a threat of violence at the polling places............


23 posted on 05/15/2012 7:22:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: All

I hope you’re all right.


24 posted on 05/15/2012 7:23:04 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Mamzelle

It seems he lost some momentum. He’d have gotten some issue going by now. Maybe he thought this was going to be it, this gay thing. Maybe it’s all he has.

Does he need the swoon factor? Probably. If so, he failed to recognize women don’t swoon over gays. We tend to love our gay men friends. We lunch with them, confide in them, and they amuse us, and vice versa; and we take care of them. And they care for us. But there is no swooning.


25 posted on 05/15/2012 7:25:39 AM PDT by stanne
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To: isthisnickcool
Hope you are right.

The question in my mind is if he is defeated will he leave?

26 posted on 05/15/2012 7:25:43 AM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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To: Red Badger

I keep seeing this refrain, but I think it will only work a little on the margins and in deeply blue cities. I am not too worried about the NBP party posting thugs at the polls in Portland ME.


27 posted on 05/15/2012 7:27:27 AM PDT by oncebitten (Obama: A Big Ole Hunk of Nothing on Two Thick Slices of Nada.)
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To: An American!
If and when he does visit an unfriendly venue (doubtful with everything scripted and populated carefully) there is about ZERO chance that the MSM will show it

No one watches or reads the MSM anymore...but his actions will be caught on video and uploaded to Youtube...and the outrageous ones will go viral.

28 posted on 05/15/2012 7:32:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Sow the wind...reap the whirlwind!)
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To: SeekAndFind

What are people’s thoughts on the Electoral College “certain victory for Obama” that we keep hearing about?


29 posted on 05/15/2012 7:35:39 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m afraid that the only polls that really matter are the “swing states.” What do OH, FL, VA, NC, etc., look like? (Likely Voters only, please!).
And I suppose we can wait to worry about them, until AFTER the Democrat and GOP conventions are over.


30 posted on 05/15/2012 7:36:50 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just wait until Obama begins to campaign!! </ snarc>


31 posted on 05/15/2012 7:36:57 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m afraid that the only polls that really matter are the “swing states.” What do OH, FL, VA, NC, etc., look like? (Likely Voters only, please!).
And I suppose we can wait to worry about them, until AFTER the Democrat and GOP conventions are over.


32 posted on 05/15/2012 7:37:07 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: oncebitten

Is SEIU in Maine?......


33 posted on 05/15/2012 7:37:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: isthisnickcool

Yes, the Obamanites steal votes on a sliding scale. As Lyndon Johnson once said, and I paraphrase, “Get the votes that I need but I’m not paying for a landslide.”


34 posted on 05/15/2012 7:39:20 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Red Badger
The New Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, SEIU

Oh.. PLEASE let them show up here in Gloucester County, VA.

The locals don't suffer fools here. And to make trouble in THIS county would indeed be foolish.

35 posted on 05/15/2012 7:39:39 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at Democrat Headquarters these days.

“We sent Rahm Emmanuel in last Tuesday to talk to Barry and to ask him to step aside.”

“Barry told him to cram it, and then Michelle threw a vase at him.”

“We’re sending Bill Clinton in to talk to him again next week. We’re going to offer him UN Secretary and the Directorship of Operation Rainbow-PUSH.”

“So Jesse has agreed to take the Cayman Islands retirement deal then?”

“Hillary says he’s an arrogant sonofabitch though, and she doesn’t think it will work”.”

“Get Carville’s Private Investigator on the phone and find out where we are on that Birth Certificate deal...”


36 posted on 05/15/2012 7:40:40 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
War chest? I doubt it. Why would he be alienating Black Christian voters, and Independents just for the MONEY he is raising from the LGBT crowds supporters?

This will be the biggest LANDSLIDE in history. House, Senate, and President. The Dems got it last time, how did that work out for ya? Now it's the Republicans’ turn.

Obama has been a DISASTER! Voters know this. The Obama crowd are so arrogant that they believe their own propaganda.

Everything they are doing in their campaign so far has backfired. Dogs, bullying, war on women, gay marriage etc. have all been losers for them. They are imploding!!!

Even with a likely nominee that the Conservatives HATE. Olympia Snowe could win this year!

37 posted on 05/15/2012 7:41:35 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Little Ray
"I’m afraid that the only polls that really matter are the “swing states.” What do OH, FL, VA, NC, etc., look like? (Likely Voters only, please!)."

Yes, but almost all of those battleground state polls the DemDreamers are looking at are stale, many of them six weeks old, that's why Commander Zero looks better in them.

Take those "battleground state" polls and switch 3-5% of the vote from Obama to Romney to get what's really happening.

38 posted on 05/15/2012 7:41:50 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: Linda Frances

If you believe the hope-and-change Kool-aid drinkers, 0bummer is a shoo-in. They seem supremely confident.


39 posted on 05/15/2012 7:42:01 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: An American!

Don’t know where you personally stand on the utility or value of FaceBook, but I wouldn’t discount the five degrees of separation available there.

And it supports videos and stills, which are at least as damaging as simply making the statements (self-authenticating, if you will, and with next to no effort on the lurker).

Obama makes a boo boo and 20,000 FaceBook users post and share the video of it before the MSM can scrub it.

And that doesn’t count the several hundred conservative commentators and news outlets (onenewsnow, for instance) who maintain vibrant FB presences. I personally have shared several posts from the latter,.

Nope, the MSM can’t hope to manage the message this time. At best, they can hope to slime the opposition and muddy the view. And I count on them doing their best to do just that. They know better than I what the stakes are.


40 posted on 05/15/2012 7:45:01 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: PapaBear3625

What? You mean to say that women don’t swoon over pretty lipped homos?


41 posted on 05/15/2012 7:45:27 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: AmonAmarth
...everything points to a huge defeat for not only Obama, but any incumbents up for re-election as well.

It's what the much-maligned-on-FR, Dick Morris, has been saying for months.

42 posted on 05/15/2012 7:45:32 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Red Badger
The New Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, SEIU and all their cohorts in crime can muster a lot of muscle in the right areas to either scare away white voters or bus in large numbers of illegal voters...............

That will only work in a limited number of urban areas where Obama will win no matter what. I suggest that you watch the cable TV show "Hardcore Pawn" to see the core Obama supporters. Here are some examples of Obama voters from that show that is based in Detroit. I call these Obama voters the "GIMME MY MONEY" voters. They will come out to vote for Obama simply because they have nothing else to do because their only job is being on the government dole.

Mark my words. Obama will be defeated in such a way he himself will be shocked to his core. Even the 2 percenter gay vote if it turns out and 100% of them vote they will not make a dent in the landslide that is coming at Obama.

As I said, even Obama will be shocked. He should not be, of course, because with todays technology Obama and the Democrats already know they are in big trouble. That is why Obama is doing what he is doing. It is why he is pandering to small groups such as the gays who are hyper focused on politics. The problem that Obama has is that the rest of the country is hyper focused on this election. Because of the economy and because of things like gas prices. And there is the thing that really scares Obama and the Democrats. That thing is something they cannot get their fingers around. It is a snake that cannot be tread on because it moves beyond their grasp. It is the Tea Party. And it will take a very big bite out of Obama. He will not be able to shake off the fangs of the Tea Party.

As the days move forward you will see how Obama and the Democrats see the writing on the wall as they become more and more odd in their actions. They will as they have with the gay issue embrace smaller and smaller radical elements as they become more desperate. Even still, Obama cannot come to terms with the fact that he will be rejected and rejected BIG by America. He is a sociopath. Besides being a Maxist/Communist/Anti-Colonialist. Obama is the anti-American. The freedom hater. The killer of of United States Constitution. People have figured this out and they will vote him out in droves. Because their lives are on the line. Fear is a great motivator.

43 posted on 05/15/2012 7:46:23 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: AmonAmarth
"I agree, everything points to a huge defeat for not only Obama, but any incumbents up for re-election as well. "

I disagree with this- I forsee a landslide onelever vote at this point, electing or re-electing all Republicans that run. A disaster for the National Socialist Democrat Party, however.

44 posted on 05/15/2012 7:46:53 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Mitt Romney is the supreme exemplification of the word SMARMY.)
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To: Linda Frances

Yes he has. He is running ads in swing states and is still declining.


45 posted on 05/15/2012 7:48:28 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: cuban leaf
...I am not the ‘women’s’ candidate....

The above is the only part that the MSM will quote.

46 posted on 05/15/2012 7:49:46 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: gawatchman

If I met armed Obama “poll watchers” when I arrived to vote, I would go home and return with Mr.Glock.


47 posted on 05/15/2012 7:52:06 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: luvbach1

—The above is the only part that the MSM will quote.—

Yeah. And ten years ago that would have been the end of it. If they try that snarky strategy with the internet at its current level of maturity, they’d get so seriously bit** slapped it would not be funny.

Remember this: NBC is missing a couple of people fired over “creative” editing of the Zimmerman call to dispatch.

Now is a time for the courage to take back the truth. And it has no place for the fear of the MSM.


48 posted on 05/15/2012 7:52:38 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: jboot
The question in my mind is if he is defeated will he leave?

That begs the question: Will his supporters let him leave?

49 posted on 05/15/2012 7:54:51 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: cuban leaf

“I’m not worried. He, as well as his handlers, are so incompetent that I suspect most of their fighting will do more harm than good.”

Same thing as back in 2008, eh?

Aren’t we lucky to have a man with the convictions of his character on our side this time?

Just teasin’...


50 posted on 05/15/2012 7:55:52 AM PDT by Road Glide
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