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FBI may charge George Zimmerman with hate crime
http://www.wftv.com ^ | May 14, 2012

Posted on 05/14/2012 6:15:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 05/14/2012 6:52:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SANFORD, Fla. — WFTV has learned charges against George Zimmerman could be getting more serious.

State prosecutors said Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman, profiled and stalked 17-year-old Trayvon Martin before killing him, so the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime.

Zimmerman admitted to killing Martin in February during a confrontation. However, he claims the shooting was in self-defense. He's facing a second-degree murder charge, which carries a maximum possible sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole. But if Zimmerman is charged and found guilty of a federal hate crime involving murder, he could face the death penalty.

FBI investigators are actively questioning witnesses in the retreat at the Twin Lakes neighborhood, seeking evidence for a possible federal hate crime charge.


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To: Art in Idaho
Zimmerman's own father calls his son a "Spanish-speaking minority".

Zimmerman should elect to have his trial conducted in Spanish.

That would flip the optics.

101 posted on 05/15/2012 1:23:35 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: patriot08

They just might get the civil war they keep pushing.


102 posted on 05/15/2012 1:33:09 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hope all the white females, hispanics and all the other damn idiots out there who vote democrat are paying attention to this outrage.

Where are the photos of Zimmerman's bashed/bleeding head?

Why are they not circulating in the media?

103 posted on 05/15/2012 3:10:06 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

This was how they handled the Rodney King cops; when they were acquitted by a jury they (successfully) came back at them with trumped-up “civil rights violations”. They have catch-all charges to correct any outcome determined by juries.

Zimmerman should have fled the country as soon as the outcry started; he will be sacrificed to appease blacks.


104 posted on 05/15/2012 3:11:09 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: lentulusgracchus

You’re right; they have to excite their base with nonsense because their base (like everyone else) is getting crushed by our unemployment and unreported inflation.


105 posted on 05/15/2012 3:17:20 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

its time for the SCOTUS to address the double jeopardy of so called Hate Crimes.

there are crimes...hate or no hate may or may not be involved...and it is not the business of goverment to tell me I cannot hate.


106 posted on 05/15/2012 3:28:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another Democrat committing a hate crime against blacks. How is this news?


107 posted on 05/15/2012 3:40:32 AM PDT by MacombBob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like Obama and the media are desperate to keep this topic going...


108 posted on 05/15/2012 4:01:22 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: Freddd

When a police organization does the bidding of the politicians, it is no longer an organization to whom the word “justice” has any meaning. We’ve seen this for decades in the US, with the individuals being persecuted because of their political or religious beliefs. There are very few individuals who can withstand an assault from a government with unlimited funds and resources, including the power of the subpoena.


109 posted on 05/15/2012 4:07:21 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: House Atreides; All
The FBI is becoming as corrupt and as despicable as the Department of “Justice” for which they manufacture “crimes

They always have been, just read 'Puppetmaster: The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover' by Richard Hack, if you don't believe it.

110 posted on 05/15/2012 5:18:23 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Vote Republican! We're 1/10 of 1% better than the other guys!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I smell Holder and Obama all over this.


111 posted on 05/15/2012 5:26:21 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (Scats for Newt!)
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To: House Atreides
The FBI is becoming as corrupt and as despicable as the Department of “Justice”

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The Special Background Investigation they did on him should have disqualified him from ever getting a security clearance. They obviously didn't do their job.

112 posted on 05/15/2012 5:36:05 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: littleharbour

I think G. Gordon Liddy had good advice about how to handle a self defense situation. First, use a revolver, no brass left behind. 2nd, two to the chest, one to the head, just one side to the story. 3rd, don’t call the police, just get away from the scene quickly. 4th, file down the hammer, trash the barrel, remove the serial numbers, and throw the gun in a deep river.


113 posted on 05/15/2012 5:38:17 AM PDT by JTHomes (A lot of injustice is done under the cover of law.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

That is the Obama investigation! Sorry.


114 posted on 05/15/2012 5:38:57 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: sasquatch

Since when does the FBI have standing to charge anyone for anything?

_____________________________

Since Hussain is using them as his private police force.

Opressison is here.


115 posted on 05/15/2012 5:42:44 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-pression.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

It’s coming. Sooner, rather than later.


116 posted on 05/15/2012 5:47:06 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: JTHomes

Sorry, that means, if you ARE caught, it goes from self defense to Murder 1.

Most of that advice (drag the body into the house, etc.) is crap.


117 posted on 05/15/2012 6:40:13 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: publius911

> He deserves impeachment no matter what.
> The House impeaches; the Senate convicts. I expect
> a GOP senator to introduce the articles of impeachment
> any day now.

Actually, impeachment would likely lead nowhere except for the Republicans to be pounded over the head by the MSM for being racists.

What *could* lead somewhere is what Issa is hoping to do, if Boehner gives his permission, which is to vote on Holder being in contempt of congress.

Importantly, COC is different, because it is limited to just one house of congress, in this case, the Republican House. The senate has no say in it at all.

If the House voted Holder in contempt, they could then appoint a special prosecutor against him, who would compile evidence to present before a federal grand jury.

This matters, because contempt itself has only petty punishments, but a special prosecutor could subpoena records far more effectively from the Just Us Department, and could prosecute criminally those individuals involved in the Guns ‘r’ Us scandal.


118 posted on 05/15/2012 6:40:46 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Feckless
Self Defense While White = The Ultimate Hate Crime

Beat me to it...

119 posted on 05/15/2012 6:43:26 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another White-Hispanic-(Blacker than Elizabeth warren is Native American) on Black Hate crime......


120 posted on 05/15/2012 7:08:25 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Kennard
Zimmerman should elect to have his trial conducted in Spanish. That would flip the optics.

Great idea!

121 posted on 05/15/2012 7:33:22 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Little Ray

That’s sure working out for Zimmerman isn’t it. I don’t trust the police or the justice system to give victims a fair shake. We have a local case of a guy who happened upon 3 people trying to steal his truck. When they came at him he drew his handgun and fired into the ground. It probably save him at least a good beating and he kept his truck, but he was the one charged. He was told he would have been better off shooting the guys if he felt his life were in danger. All this legal dogma flies in the face of common sense these days. People are not trusted to use their own judgement since every action is regulated and be judged illegal in one twisted way or another. My somewhat facetious comment in the last post was more a statement of staying out of the system if you can help it. Advice to trust the system is also crap.


122 posted on 05/15/2012 7:34:28 AM PDT by JTHomes (A lot of injustice is done under the cover of law.)
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To: Little Ray
Sorry, that means, if you ARE caught, it goes from self defense to Murder 1.

Not really, it is still self defense, no premeditation or intent. But probably would add some charges of covering up the crime, and by twisted statutes turn it into some capital crime. Even more reason to not trust your fate to some persecutor hoping for higher office.

123 posted on 05/15/2012 7:40:14 AM PDT by JTHomes (A lot of injustice is done under the cover of law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the orginal case must be pretty weak.


124 posted on 05/15/2012 7:49:36 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Raycpa

Yep. Corey has serious problems fulfilling any aspect of her mau mau.


125 posted on 05/15/2012 7:56:54 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (\=)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I feel sorry for this man that is the center of a political tryst to destroy him. His crime was merely luck in being the poster boy for political advantage.

I do pray his vindication comes.


126 posted on 05/15/2012 8:00:33 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Meet the New Boss

This brings up the question of what would happen if we passed an amendment repealing the commerce clause.
Specifically, would existent laws deriving their ‘justification’ from that clause be null and void automatically; or would each law have to be challenged individually (also giving the government the time/ability to justify that law via some other route)?


127 posted on 05/15/2012 9:03:50 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: All

yet another distraction to occupy the Sunday talkers.. only 25 more weekends to go..


128 posted on 05/15/2012 9:25:45 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I figured I’d edit that last line in the story for accuracy:

“FBI investigators are actively intimidating witnesses in the retreat at the Twin Lakes neighborhood, seeking to suppress evidence for Zimmerman’s defense against a possible federal hate crime charge.”


129 posted on 05/15/2012 9:31:34 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Hey FBI, witnesses to the actual shooting??? Or, nieghbors of Zimmerman’s???

Both will not be kind to the direction YOU and the race baiters and New Black Panthers want this to go...

Both witnesses to the attack made statements that the Little darling Angel Travon waas on top of Zimmerman shoving his hed back into the pavement...Not good for the prosecution, that to me shows hate on the Little Darling Angel Travon...

Anyone in the complex will tell them that Zimmerman was a person that helped more than was a menace to their homes...

So...FBI...Seems to me you’re barking up the wrong tree... again...

I have a question...Is there anyone on Free Republic that actually is FBI, or has a family member in the rank and file??? I mean a real investigator/officer???

I’m curious to know, out of the public eye here, if this is embarassing, or causes concerns, to them at all...

That answer can be FReepmailed to me, I promise to NOT divulge any of that answer and conversation publically...

I’m honestly curious to know if this is the best that we have on this case??? If this is ALL the DOJ and law enforcement really has???

Timing is amazing...Interviewing “witnesses” way after the fact, after the national “Get yer bowels in an uproar” being presented by the DOJ, State of Florida, Barrack, Sharpton, Jackson, and the New Black Panthers, bless their little pea pickin’ hearts...

I’m just amazed we haven’t seen widespread rioting across the country, yet...

I do see reports of a lot of hate crimes (assaults) committed by roving gangs of black yutes beating and severely injuring other people of lighter skin color...

What’s up with that assinine behavior???

If this is what they (blacks) want...They are succeeding in making this case go against whatever results they want out of the legal procedings...

And when the final gavel falls and Zimmerman is possibly aquited of all charges...I wonder what will happen next???

I will not be surprised...

All of this is just my opinion, spurred by my honest curiosity...


130 posted on 05/15/2012 9:45:50 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I Occupy the Gun Range!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Good stuff again 2DV!!! Required reading...


131 posted on 05/15/2012 9:52:01 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I Occupy the Gun Range!!!)
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To: Ken H
...the authority to enact laws necessary and proper for the regulation of interstate commerce is not limited to laws governing intrastate activities that substantially affect interstate commerce. Where necessary to make a regulation of interstate commerce effective, Congress may regulate even those intrastate activities that do not themselves substantially affect interstate commerce.
Scalia concurring in Raich



Sometimes you feel like you should just stay in bed. Other times it's like H. L. Mencken said: "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."

The utterly irritating, frustrating, and intolerable thing about this is the sheer injustice BLATANTLY being paraded about as if it were Justice.

132 posted on 05/15/2012 10:07:39 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Holder sent them marching orders.


133 posted on 05/15/2012 10:28:57 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They can look all they want, there is NO basis for a so-called "hate crime". Even if Zimmerman was stalking Martin, police and Zimmerman's phone records show otherwise.

If the FBI is reduced to such nonsense, then it needs to be downsized. Obviously, too many bureaucrats in the organization.

134 posted on 05/15/2012 10:43:13 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: South40

” This is nothing more than political theater. If and when Zimmerman is acquitted angry blacks who have been led to believe this was a hate crime will riot similar to that which occurred in LA in 1992. And when that happens, the Obama admin and the complicit leftist media will be responsible for every death. “

They have no care about this.


135 posted on 05/15/2012 11:47:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: JTHomes

” That’s sure working out for Zimmerman isn’t it. I don’t trust the police or the justice system to give victims a fair shake. We have a local case of a guy who happened upon 3 people trying to steal his truck. When they came at him he drew his handgun and fired into the ground. It probably save him at least a good beating and he kept his truck, but he was the one charged. “

Truly sick!


136 posted on 05/15/2012 11:52:37 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FBI = PC


137 posted on 05/15/2012 11:56:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: an amused spectator; Liz

“Oh, great.

ANOTHER week when the Fibbies will be too busy to arrest Jon Corzine... “

Maybe next year..


138 posted on 05/15/2012 12:26:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The FL prosecution is waiting for the FBI to charge the hate crime so they can go ahead with a First Degree Murder charge.


139 posted on 05/15/2012 1:23:30 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He's facing a second-degree murder charge, which carries a maximum possible sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole. But if Zimmerman is charged and found guilty of a federal hate crime involving murder, he could face the death penalty.

As a libertarian, I am against the death penalty. I do not have enough confidence in government to trust it with such a thing.

This shows that liberals are hypocrites. They always claim to be against the death penalty. But now that someone may have committed the "crime" of being a racist, liberals want him to get the death penalty - not for the murder itself - but for being a racist who committed murder.

140 posted on 05/15/2012 1:28:40 PM PDT by grundle
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To: stephenjohnbanker
They have no care about this.

No, they don't. Partly because the chaos likely won't happen until Obama is no longer POTUS and partly because he and the media never accept responsibility for any thing.

141 posted on 05/15/2012 1:39:51 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Right on both counts.


142 posted on 05/15/2012 2:03:38 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they do they’ll break him financially. It could cost millions to defend himself. The government has unlimited funding and is absolutely political.

Think how quickly the FBI went from being the keystone cops of law enforcement to being the most respected law enforcement agaency in the world to being a political tool? We’re talking less than a four decades.

Government in the hands of anyone is dangerous. We need to return to Constitutional government at every level.


143 posted on 05/15/2012 2:51:01 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To all:

Be cool. Don’t take any political/social bait. Just watch the picture show, and drive on.


144 posted on 05/15/2012 3:02:36 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: DoctorBulldog; All

I donated.....and am going to donate more.

MOre people need to help this guy.


145 posted on 05/15/2012 4:12:44 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: rockinqsranch; All

http://www.gzdefensefund.com/


146 posted on 05/15/2012 4:17:01 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: rockrr

If he is found not guilty of manslaughter by self-defense, he gets hit with a hate crime? Isn’t this double jeopardy?


147 posted on 05/15/2012 4:33:32 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: sasquatch

“Since when does the FBI have standing to charge anyone for anything?”

Dillinger probably wondered the same thing;)


148 posted on 05/15/2012 4:33:59 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: tbw2

No. Different charge, different jurisdiction. Remember OJ Simpson.

But in spirit I absolutely agree with you. The feds have no sincere interest here. It is COMPLETELY inappropriate for the office. but since it is the Øbozo regime and they have shown themselves to be bereft of any ethics or common sense I expect this charade to go forward.

Pray for G. Zimmerman - He’s gonna need it.


149 posted on 05/15/2012 5:25:21 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: FreedomPoster
It may be time to start seriously tracking names here.

I have been saying that for four years.
Had we done so, we would be ready when the time comes.
Names. All the way down to the unionized local storm troopers who will blindly follow any orders from the communist central planners.

Unfortunately, most of the unconstitutional orders, laws, policies and oppresive programs never have a name attached to them (if 'everyone' is respomsible, 'no one' is responsible,) and the Soros Obama regime makes sure that the citizens are stonewalled. None of the losers want their names attached to the brave new republic.

150 posted on 05/15/2012 5:26:05 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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