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(Virgil)Goode: Romney ‘father of homosexual marriages’ (Constitution Party Candidate)
Augusta Free Press ^ | 12 May 12 | Augusta Free Press

Posted on 05/14/2012 10:53:24 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins

Thanks for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!


141 posted on 05/15/2012 7:17:47 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jeff Head
Actually, SoCon, he used it over 300 times. But the overwhelming DNC legislature that I spoke of over ruled vuirtually all of them. You need to do a little more research before you make such statements a basis for calling somone a liar.

Actually Jeff, after I went to bed last night I was feeling pretty bad about my harsh words so I apologize for that.

And yes, I should have research that out, however, he should have stood his ground more often, if he wanted to be understood as a conservative or a man of his word.

From his implementing an unconstitutional and illegal Gay Marriage directive from a Supreme Court that had no business legislating such a matter as the MA Constitution so clearly spelled out, to his nominating 27 out of 36 radical leftists, to his implementation of a Carbon Cap and Trading system to his implementation of an Assault Weapons Ban, to his implementation of Socialized Medicine, his record is lousy.
142 posted on 05/15/2012 7:22:29 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Accepted, graciuosly.

As to his Judge nominations, I have talkked with people who lived there during the Romney admin. The nomination and selection process is far different than at the federal level. There is a committe that oversees the whole thing that a Governor has to clear first, and then proceed to the Legislature.

Any even remotely conservative Judges Romney lined up were simply not approved. In the end, he had to get the best he could.

Do not get me wrong. I do not like his record, but I also reognize where he was and what constraints were upon him as Governor of that state and that a lot that is being attributed to him personally was not really him, but the poverall liberal nature of the state, its legislature and its laws that hobbled anything good he may have wanted to do.

Now, he is free of all of that, indicates that he has changed in some very specific areas, and has put together a platform on the issues for the last 5-6 years that he is running on which is, on its face, not that terribly bad.

My point is simple. That is a whole lot better than what we have from Obama and the only real two choices we have in terms of who the actual next President will be are these two.

One a very moderate Republican from Mass who says he has now seen the light on some issues and is running on a platform reflecting that, and the other a Kenyan Marxist who is intent on detroying the Republic and is alreayd well on his way in his 1st term to doing so.

For me, thought it is certainly not the choice I wanted, the choice between the two is still clear.


143 posted on 05/15/2012 7:50:43 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Seaplaner; xzins
Just like the (very fine) people who voted for Perot, a third party vote is so very foolish.

In an election today between Perot, Romney and Obama, Perot would win hands down.

In this election you have two really horrible candidates. At this point I don't know whether or not Goode can win, but the election is not for another 6 months. A lot can happen in 6 months, and you can expect that the mud that is flung out on both Romney and Obama will be neck deep. People are generally dissatisfied with both candidates. They may either not vote at all or turn en-masse to third parties.

This is how the Republican Party got started. It may be how it is ended.

I cannot under any circumstances bring myself to vote for Romney. He is a knee jerk liberal in an empty suit. He has no core convictions except to get elected and to lie, cheat and steal to get the job done. In that sense he is no better than Obama.

144 posted on 05/15/2012 7:52:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: Jeff Head

I’ve done a lot of thinking over the past few days, and given the fact that Obama has become “all gay all the time”, I am coming around to the thought of giving Romney a chance. Not saying I’m convinced yet, but I am a little more open-minded than I was even just last week.


145 posted on 05/15/2012 7:54:33 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: dfwgator

Zero is a strong campaign issue, most definitely.


146 posted on 05/15/2012 8:16:20 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Jeff Head
As to his Judge nominations, I have talkked with people who lived there during the Romney admin. The nomination and selection process is far different than at the federal level. There is a committe that oversees the whole thing that a Governor has to clear first, and then proceed to the Legislature.

Any even remotely conservative Judges Romney lined up were simply not approved. In the end, he had to get the best he could.


My point Jeff is that there is always an excuse for the bad behavior of Mitt Romney.

If it were you, me, or any other actual Republican with any type of principles we would never have gone along.

Mitt Romney had a choice, he, like you are doing with this issue, excused his bad choice by pointing fingers at someone else.

He could have just said no on principle alone and left the nominations for the next Governor, he chose to lie about the process and blame someone else, just like he did on "Gay" Marriage.

On that matter he refused to be a Man, and take up his responsibility both to his position, the people of MA, and ultimately his god, and wimped out, again, blaming someone else for his own failings.
147 posted on 05/15/2012 9:40:57 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: SoConPubbie

There you go again, SoCon, insulting someone who is trying to have reasoned dialog with you. I am not excusing my “bad choice.”

I do not agree with your choice, but it is yours to make and I know you love this country, and understand why you are making it, so I will not insult you over it. Try and recipprocate.

In fact, I am not excusing anything, I am poiting to the reality of the situation as it is on the gound based on my own research (remember the vetoes?) and on conversations with strong conservative people I know and trust who were there in Mass at the time.

Of course you and I would not have done those things Romney did...but then we would never have been elected governor there in any case for the same reasons. He moderated and was elected...and though his record from our perspective is far too moderate...I will tell you after my own research it is not nearly as bad and “evil” as some make it out to be, and it was better for Mass (according to the people who lived there) than what they otherwise would have had.

Now Romney says he has changed and has been campaigning for 6-7 years on a different set of positions.

Again, my point is simple...that condition is far better than what we will have with Obama.

We’re not going to get this back all at once, as much as you and I would like to...we’re going to have to fight and scrathc and claw and take the progress we can get when we can get it and then build on it and be discplined enough to get that progress and then hold onto it for dear life until we get more.

Sad it is that way...tragic for our nation...but it is the only path back that I see at this point.

God’s speed.


148 posted on 05/15/2012 10:08:10 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
There you go again, SoCon, insulting someone who is trying to have reasoned dialog with you. I am not excusing my “bad choice.”

Jeff, I insulted no-one, including yourself with that last point.

I did not say you had made a bad choice, I posted that you were excusing Mitt Romney's bad choices, and you are.

As with most Mitt Romney supporters, there is either the desire to completely ignore his horrible record, or there is almost always, an excuse as to why he CHOSE to do the bad things he has done.
149 posted on 05/15/2012 10:20:17 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Jeff Head
Now Romney says he has changed and has been campaigning for 6-7 years on a different set of positions.

And during those 6-7 years he has constantly and consistently lied about his past policy positions and actions, so why should I believe him now?

Remember CPAC 2012?

1. "I was a severely conservative Governor of MA"
2. "I have always been Pro-Life"

And those two are just the most recent blatant in your face lies he has stated about himself.

Add in the constant lies and shading of the truth where both Newt and Rick are concerned, and all the other lies and shifting policy positions and again, WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE ANYTHING HE SAYS?
150 posted on 05/15/2012 10:27:22 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: SoConPubbie
These were your words:

Mitt Romney had a choice, he, like you are doing with this issue, excused his bad choice by pointing fingers at someone else.

In the context it pretty much says I am making a bad choice, and like Romney, I am "excusing" it. To me, that's insulting because I am doing nothing of the kind on either count. Then you go and say this with your latest post:

As with most Mitt Romney supporters, there is either the desire to completely ignore his horrible record, or there is almost always, an excuse as to why he CHOSE to do the bad things he has done.

Which kind of double downs on the original post.

I have made it clear where I stand on Romney. I do not like his prior record, and I wish he were not the nominee. But he is. Voting for Romney is the only realistic course left to keep Obama from the Presidency.

In addition, I have not ignored Romney's record, I have simply attempted to explain it based on the criteria and research I gave. I do not like it. It is not what I would have done...but it is what it is. That is not excusing it, it is simply stating it.

Again, I understand you concern and decision. I know why you are making it and know you love this country. I love the country too, and am making my decision for the same reason.

We've been around and around on this. I hope and pray for the best for our nation. Time will tell what these decisions will lead too.

Having Obama in for another four years is, from my perspective, the worst outcome available and I will do nothing to allow, by my action or inaction, that Kenyan Marxist to be re-elected as President in so far as I can influence it in any way, including how I vote. That's my decision.

I respect yours to do differently and understand it, even if it is not what I intend to do based on my own decisions regarding the same.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

151 posted on 05/15/2012 10:36:32 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: goseminoles

LOL just playin’ :)


152 posted on 05/15/2012 10:40:45 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: Alamo-Girl

It is always a blessing, Sister, to share scripture and ideas with you.


153 posted on 05/15/2012 1:23:30 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: SoConPubbie; Jeff Head; P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson
From his implementing an unconstitutional and illegal Gay Marriage directive from a Supreme Court that had no business legislating such a matter as the MA Constitution so clearly spelled out, to his nominating 27 out of 36 radical leftists, to his implementation of a Carbon Cap and Trading system to his implementation of an Assault Weapons Ban, to his implementation of Socialized Medicine, his record is lousy.

Ezekiel lived in the time of the exile to Babylon. The southern kingdom had fallen, Jerusalem had been destroyed, and the people had been carried off to a foreign land. This had come as a result of years and years of evil.

In warfare of the time, if the enemy breached the walls of a city, it was the utmost loyalty for a warrior to rush to the gap and sacrifice himself to preserve others.

There have been those in our era who have "stood in the gap" for the United States of America. There have also been many, though, who have sided with the enemy and have encouraged the growth of evil and oppression.

23 Again the word of the LORD came to me: 24 "Son of man, say to the land, 'You are a land that has had no rain or showers in the day of wrath.' 25 There is a conspiracy of her princes within her like a roaring lion tearing its prey; they devour people, take treasures and precious things and make many widows within her. 26 Her priests do violence to my law and profane my holy things; they do not distinguish between the holy and the common; they teach that there is no difference between the unclean and the clean; and they shut their eyes to the keeping of my Sabbaths, so that I am profaned among them. 27 Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain. 28 Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says'--when the LORD has not spoken. 29 The people of the land practice extortion and commit robbery; they oppress the poor and needy and mistreat the alien, denying them justice. 30 "I looked for a man among them who would build up the wall and stand before me in the gap on behalf of the land so I would not have to destroy it, but I found none. 31 So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their own heads all they have done, declares the Sovereign LORD."

Romney is just another in the line of systemite princes who endeavors to keep the system going. There is nothing in his record to commend him as a leader with the interests of God at heart. He has approved of gay adoptions by gay couples (all the evidence I need of gay marriage with him); he has not stood in the gap against $50 abortions, but instead he facilitated them; he has rewarded cronies and taxed beyond measure; and he has approved of governments forcing us to buy and sell as the oligarchs decree.

In these things, he did not stand fast. He did not stand in the gap and refuse to surrender. He did not cry, "Give me liberty or give me death."

Nor is he now standing in the gap. He is assaulting the walls with the enemy.

Even now he is turning to the left, to those who seek after strange flesh and to those who would further enslave the people.

Will each of us stand in the gap for the United States of America.

"Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you."

154 posted on 05/15/2012 2:05:50 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins

Why do you ankle-biters have to drag Jim to every post you write? Are you all in the 3rd grade?


155 posted on 05/15/2012 2:09:13 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2884091/posts

Read the above thread by Jim.

He’s on our side. He is resisting the devil.

Is Romney a conservative?


156 posted on 05/15/2012 2:15:04 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins
(poke)

157 posted on 05/15/2012 2:43:10 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: xzins

I am definitely NOT a Romney supporter and will only vote for him if he is the one running against the Obamanation...errr...Obama!


158 posted on 05/15/2012 3:44:31 PM PDT by Vernon
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To: Vernon

I will definitely not vote for Romney. To vote for him is to vote for EVERYTHING I’ve fought against my entire life.


159 posted on 05/15/2012 3:54:07 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: P-Marlowe
This is how the Republican Party got started.

Actually it started lower down than president, much more a grass roots response to the Kansas Nebraska Act. It organized to form majorities in most Northern states. Then the presidency with Lincoln.

Third parties trying for the top job today are spoilers at best. As we see on this site lately, they campaign against Romney, not Obama. No hope of actually winning the executive branch, merely preventing the GOP nominee from doing so.

160 posted on 05/15/2012 4:38:46 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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