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Ruby Ridge Survivor: 'Not the Legacy I Wanted to Leave My Son'
KATU ^ | May 11, 2012 | Tracy Vedder

Posted on 05/12/2012 6:25:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 05/12/2012 6:25:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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" 'For God so love the world he gave his only begotten son, So that whomever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life.' That moment, I felt God's love pour out from heaven," she said. "I started bawling, I knew Jesus was real. That he loved me."

Nice. I needed to hear that tonight.

2 posted on 05/12/2012 6:30:50 PM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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And the feds still haven’t learned a thing.


3 posted on 05/12/2012 6:30:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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And the feds still haven’t learned a thing.

they learned they can get away with murder.

4 posted on 05/12/2012 6:34:43 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

Maybe in this life.

Not in the next.


5 posted on 05/12/2012 6:39:12 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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I wonder how Lon Horiuchi’s soul is these days.


6 posted on 05/12/2012 6:39:12 PM PDT by skeeter
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Possibly clean and pure.

More likely, darker than a bat’s crotch at midnight.


7 posted on 05/12/2012 6:40:16 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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No mention of the many atrocities committed by the federal agents or of the civil suit they lost.

Oh and the FBI sniper was the also at Waco. He was proclaimed a hero by Janet Reno.

Randy weaver isnt the best person but what the feds did to him and his family was murder.


8 posted on 05/12/2012 6:40:42 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Hell, Lon Horiuchi is probably going to be appointed the next Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security in the 2nd term of the 0bama regime, as Janet Incompetentano is probably viewed as “not aggressive enough”.


9 posted on 05/12/2012 6:41:12 PM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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I remember the Hearing and Arlan Spector peering at Hourichi’s bullet hole in the front door that killed Vicki Weaver while she held the baby.

Dispicable.

10 posted on 05/12/2012 6:49:38 PM PDT by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
The article is typical government propaganda.

"white separatists"...code for its ok for the gumint to go after you

no mention that the assassins shot the boy's dog first, which initiated the slaughter

that would ultimately end in bloodshed...gee, no mention that the feds started the whole thing when DEA/FBI/ATF (or some other 3 letter jackbooted thug federal agency) entrapped Randy Weaver.

No mention that the locals were protesting at the roadblocks the egregious behavior of the feds

No mention a local grand jury indicted federal agents for murder

No mention that Lon Horiuchi was the FBI assassin that murdered randy weaver's wife

No, just your typical stupid liberal urinalist puff piece which omits inconvenient facts.

The author is a coward and a fool.

11 posted on 05/12/2012 6:51:18 PM PDT by OldCorps
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I recall Diane Feinstein, very sympathetically of course, implying that Horiuchi really couldn’t see through those ‘calico curtains’ he shot through when he blew off Vicki’s head.


12 posted on 05/12/2012 6:54:22 PM PDT by skeeter
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The guys the federales (and everybody else) use as snipers are, for all practical purposes, sociopaths ~ not the kind who are trying to cheat everybody and his brother, or killing their wives and kids, but otherwise controllable guys who will kill on command.

They've been known about for millenia ~ executioner is one of the jobs they give these guys.

I knew Lon Horiuchi and his father. This whole situation was extremely devastating to the father, his friends, family, associates and all the people who knew Lon Sr.

The federales should be prohibited from using sociopaths to serve as snipers for use against civilian targets. Violation of that rule should be punishable by death.

13 posted on 05/12/2012 6:55:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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From a North Idaho resident that has read much about thsi incident, in addition to having read press accounts and TV news reports whilst this tragic incident was playing out, there was a heap of grossly misleading crammed into that article. Vicki Weaver, her son (abt 12) and her babe in arms were simply murdered, killed without cause.


14 posted on 05/12/2012 6:55:37 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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"white separatists"...code for its ok for the gumint to go after you

That was the worst they had on Randy Weaver, and they make sure that every mention of his name has "white separatist" attached to it. I suspect that they are hoping that inattentive readers will remember it as "white supremacist", which, of course, would make it all ok.

15 posted on 05/12/2012 6:58:11 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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He has no soul. I met her dad Randy Weaver and Sara at the Great Western Gun Show at the Los Angles County Fair Grounds, 10/31/98. They were selling Randy’s book “The Federal Siege at Ruby Ridge”. They both inscribed and signed the book for me. One of my proudest and valued possession. Everytime I read the book my blood boils. I recommend that all Freepers buy and read the book (available online at many places) I can’t wait to get a copy of Sara’s book -— signed!


16 posted on 05/12/2012 6:59:12 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2012! Go Pack Go!)
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He has no soul. I met her dad Randy Weaver and Sara at the Great Western Gun Show at the Los Angles County Fair Grounds, 10/31/98. They were selling Randy’s book “The Federal Siege at Ruby Ridge”. They both inscribed and signed the book for me. One of my proudest and valued possession. Everytime I read the book my blood boils. I recommend that all Freepers buy and read the book (available online at many places) I can’t wait to get a copy of Sara’s book -— signed!


17 posted on 05/12/2012 7:03:10 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2012! Go Pack Go!)
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He has no soul. I met her dad Randy Weaver and Sara at the Great Western Gun Show at the Los Angles County Fair Grounds, 10/31/98. They were selling Randy’s book “The Federal Siege at Ruby Ridge”. They both inscribed and signed the book for me. One of my proudest and valued possession. Everytime I read the book my blood boils. I recommend that all Freepers buy and read the book (available online at many places) I can’t wait to get a copy of Sara’s book -— signed!


18 posted on 05/12/2012 7:04:15 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2012! Go Pack Go!)
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To: cripplecreek
its the power thing...the federales think they have unlimited power....

if they had even apologized...

you know, they could have had Randy Weaver any day in town....what did they want him for...a rifle that had a too long barrel as I remember...

same with Waco...if they wanted him, they could have picked him up in Waco...no harm, no foul.....

19 posted on 05/12/2012 7:04:27 PM PDT by cherry
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They left out a big part of the story:

A chopper laden with a huge underslung fuel bladder came to a hover directly above the shack, clearly with the intent to burn them out.

They established that there was a reporter in the area with a powerful lens, and that stopped them (they beat up the reporter and put him in jail for nothing).

Ruby was also to be ended by the flame, similar to Waco.

In view of the monstrous truth of F&F, who is to say McVeigh was not a gov’t agent who was burned when the sting went bad?

Because that is clearly what they intended to do to all the dealers who were recruited to help the BATF with F&F.

Would the gov’t itself set into motion a chain of events that would blow up their OWN building...? I’d never have thought that b4, but in view of F&F now I think YES.


20 posted on 05/12/2012 7:04:58 PM PDT by gaijin
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